Kentucky lawmakers pass legislation removing conversion therapy restrictions

[Zincwarrior]

The problem with laws like this is they can be used as I described them. "Conversion Therapy" is a scare term that has no meaning, but is suddenly the crux of a law that tells therapists how they can deal with their patients.

Can you clarify. Kentucky passed a law protecting conversion therapy. My last part of the post quotes a legislator agreeing with you (I think).

 

[Zincwarrior]

 

[hadit]

I live far away from it for a damn good reason.

Oh, you're a refugee. What part did you escape from?

 

[80zephyr]

I am sure they know they are gay without a therapist.

Used to be denying reality was a mental illness.

 

[martybegan]

Can you clarify. Kentucky passed a law protecting conversion therapy. My last part of the post quotes a legislator agreeing with you (I think).

It's because other States have passed laws banning it, which are also being sued.

Note, this isn't about banning it for minors, but adults.

 

[Moonglow]

Used to be denying reality was a mental illness.

Now talking to invisible deities is normal.

 

[Moonglow]

Okiehoma and them GOD-DAMNED Baptist.

 

[80zephyr]

Now talking to invisible deities is normal.

That has always been normal. And, depending on what you believe, they aren't invisible either.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

So the second someone in therapy says they are questioning their sexuality, the therapist must automatically say "you are gay"?

That is just plain stupid. That is not how therapy works and your less than insightful codswallop has nothing to do with conversion therapy

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Kentucky just passed a bill to protect the practice of conversion therapy. Thoughts USMB?

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thehill.com

Kentucky lawmakers passed a measure Friday seeking to protect the controversial practice known as conversion therapy for LGBTQ youth, repealing an executive order from Democratic Gov. Andy Beshear (Ky.) that restricted the practice.

The state Legislature has a GOP majority in the House and Senate, which succeeded in passing the bill, which also prevents people from using Medicaid to support gender-affirming health care for transgender residents, according to The Associated Press.The Department of Veterans Affairs is also imposing a similar ban to comply with President Trump's executive order declaring the United States would only recognize two sexes.The idea that there are only two genders often is taught in conversion therapy to promote heterosexual behaviors.

GOP lawmakers, including state Rep. David Hale, argued families should have the freedom to select the mental health care of their choice, adding the bill would protect institutions and ordained ministries from discrimination when providing counseling services, according to AP.

It sucks!! Gender affirming care eases anxiety due to gender dysphoria and can save lives

Conversion therapy is cruel, abusive and coercive.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Way too much of a fan of boobs, actual boobs, for that.

The only penis I am a fan of is my own.

Many people who deride and marginalize gay people have issues with sexuality that they have repressed and replaces with an obsession with the opposite sex

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

The problem with laws like this is they can be used as I described them. "Conversion Therapy" is a scare term that has no meaning, but is suddenly the crux of a law that tells therapists how they can deal with their patients.

That is a boatload of bovine excrement

Conversion therapy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Conversion therapy is the pseudoscientific practice of attempting to change an individual's sexual orientation, romantic orientation, gender identity, or gender expression to align with heterosexual and cisgender norms.<a href="Conversion therapy - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> Methods that have been used to this end include forms of brain surgery, surgical or chemical (hormonal) castration, aversion therapy treatments such as electric shocks, nausea-inducing drugs, hypnosis, counseling, spiritual interventions, visualization, psychoanalysis, and arousal reconditioning. There is a scientific consensus that conversion therapy is ineffective at changing a person's sexual orientation or gender identity and that it frequently causes significant long-term psychological harm

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

So the second someone in therapy says they are questioning their sexuality, the therapist must automatically say "you are gay"?

A legitimate mental health professional will never tell a patient what they are in terms of their sexual orientation or gender identity. The job of the therapist is to facility that persons discovery about who and what they are,

On the other hand , your conversion therapists will start from the premise that the patient is not gay or whatever and use questionable methods and tactics to convince them of that . You really don’t seem to understand much

 

[80zephyr]

It sucks!! Gender affirming care eases anxiety due to gender dysphoria and can save lives

Conversion therapy is cruel, abusive and coercive.

Sorta like telling an anorexic that she is fat? So keep dieting?