Mike Johnson gets shredded on the house floor

They are relevant if those opinions differ from Trump's, this is a democracy and fear of speaking out against a tyrant means that the public, the people who voted for these republican senators and representatives, are being short changed.

The entire republican party has become scared of Trump, they are spinless weaklings
I think Republicans just want to make right the dishonesty and pettiness of the previous administration.
Some republicans should - at least privately - make their disgust at freeing cop killers,
It is interesting that there were no cop killers in the crowd. I wonder if that makes a difference.
 
Sure there was, 1600 people! They were not all violent that day. A small percentage were but there were also malcontents like antfi and FBI instigators. It just makes sense to blanket pardon all of them and move on. I love watching your heads explode too! Delicious. Thanks Trump :dance:

It makes sense because it just does. Pragmatic Trump.
With rare exceptions, their cases were handled individually. Not as a whole.
 
Oh wait....I thought you said "if people knew Trump was going to pardon them it would have been different".

The article was from July 31, 2024.....Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. :laughing0301:
He said he’d pardon the innocent ones. Are they ALL innocent?
 
You can use the word "shredded" if it eases your anger and disappointed over the election but it's politics as usual and Trump is getting more done in his first week than sleepy Joe and his giggling VP did in four years. USA USA
 
The cult doesn't care. I just listened to how MAGAs are sure that only people who were unfairly charged for political reasons were released. Anyone who participated in violence is still in prison and won't be released. That is what they really think. Those that told me that are sure I am the one being unreasonable.
How much prison time do you think punching a cop should get you? No priors? What, maybe 6 months? Anything over a year for a punch is absurd. Anything over 2 years is extreme injustice. Anything over 3 years is criminal on the prosecutions part.
 
Are they supposed to spend their lives in prison for tazing a police officer?

Those are your words. Until you stop lying, I care less about anything else you have to say. No one was facing that.

Right. I was asking a rhetorical question. I didn't say they were sentenced to live in prison. '

You guys are pretty dense.
 
Mike Johnson is right. The president has blanket pardon power given to him by the constitution. Their opinions of who he pardons are irrelevant.
Nobody’s taking issue with whether the president has the power to pardon. The issue is with the decisions he made about who to pardon and what it represents. Thats certainly something that leaders and the public can and should voice their opinions about.
 
No one suggested they spend their lives in prison, which is why I labeled it a straw man argument.

The man who beat and tased the officer got 13 years, but he also was obstructing proceedings, and destroying evidence.

I didn't say anyone suggested that. What I was implying is that there must be a reasonable time of incarceration for their crimes. The sentencing showed that it was anything but reasonable for several of those convicted. The sentencing was very disproportionate to others that committed the same crimes NOT committed on Jan. 6.
 
With rare exceptions, their cases were handled individually. Not as a whole.
All of them viewed with bias and political Animas. They were not treated the same as the people who rioted for the entire summer for BLM and the Democrats. Our justice system depends on equality. The only way to make it right was a blanket pardon. Plus the deliciousness of watching your heads explode! LOL :dance:
 
Nobody’s taking issue with whether the president has the power to pardon. The issue is with the decisions he made about who to pardon and what it represents. Thats certainly something that leaders and the public can and should voice their opinions about.
And it is certainly something that you can disagree with. That's the beauty of Living in America. The whole thing was politically biased and motivated however so a blanket pardon makes sense. It was expedient and cost-effective for Trump to do it this way. Perfect
 
I didn't say anyone suggested that. What I was implying is that there must be a reasonable time of incarceration for their crimes. The sentencing showed that it was anything but reasonable for several of those convicted. The sentencing was very disproportionate to others that committed the same crimes NOT committed on Jan. 6.
This is often a claim, but not made with any significant attempt to support it.

It's almost impossible to find someone who committed the "same crime" as the charges of obstruction of congressional proceedings and trespassing are somewhat unique to this riot.
 
All of them viewed with bias and political Animas. They were not treated the same as the people who rioted for the entire summer for BLM and the Democrats. Our justice system depends on equality. The only way to make it right was a blanket pardon. Plus the deliciousness of watching your heads explode! LOL :dance:
Did Trump pardon anyone arrested in violence associated with BLM?

Doesn't appear to be equal now.
 
Way to go Jim McGovern!

We can't let them tell these lies, people will start to believe they are the truth!!




Isn't anymore the Speaker's place to question Trump's pardons then it is his place to question Xiden giving pardon's to members of Congress for their political prosecutions and abuses of power.
 
Did Trump pardon anyone arrested in violence associated with BLM?

Doesn't appear to be equal now.
How many were arrested and are in jail right now for violence associated with BLM? Didn't you guys bail them all out and/or not even charge them? I don't recall a whole lot of Investigation . In fact they were encouraged by Democrat leaders. Nothing like what they did against the Sixers . A whole summer of rioting and destruction, at least 30 deaths and billions in damage. How does that even compare? We just want equality, something you obviously know very little about.
 
Let’s see now who planned and carried out the J6 Reichstag Fire

That is the last thing you're going to see.

Much of the GOP leadership were either participants in, or were read into Trump's coup plot.

The scheme to force acceptance of the White House's fake electors required GOP allies in Congress to raise objections to the vote certification, so the GOP could force the election into the hands of GOP state legislators.

So, this is an investigation led by the perpetrators.
 
Good, good, let them keep on beating the dead horse that is J-6.

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LOL.....And they wonder why they lost it all. :laughing0301:

It isn't a dead horse.

You great grandchildren will read about it in their US History classes. It will be remembered as a low point in American democracy.
 

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