My latest conversation with a solar panel salesman

Yikes ... Shades of forced vaccinations!
Yeah. IDK a lot about it as I haven't lived there in over 10 years, but a friend who still lives there tells me that he is satisfied with his. He purchased and installed it. He tells me that his meter actually runs backwards at times and the power company pays him premium price for what he puts back into the grid. I guess they figure how much annually and it makes a substantial dent in his power bill.
 
Yeah. IDK a lot about it as I haven't lived there in over 10 years, but a friend who still lives there tells me that he is satisfied with his. He purchased and installed it. He tells me that his meter actually runs backwards at times and the power company pays him premium price for what he puts back into the grid. I guess they figure how much annually and it makes a substantial dent in his power bill.
It works for some people.
 
It works for some people.
Yeah, it wouldn't work for me. I live very near the Canadian border and we just don't get a lot of daylight in the winter months. Our neighbor tried to go total solar and even adding a bunch of panels they have never been totally detached from the grid. That poses another problem---batteries. In the time I've lived here, they have upgraded or replaced batteries twice and added panels too. In CA, they don't have much problem with the daylight or the extreme winter temps either.
 
In Arizona, they have all kind of "rebate" deals that make solar installation more attractive. Still not enough savings on electricity bills to get me interested.
 
In Arizona, they have all kind of "rebate" deals that make solar installation more attractive. Still not enough savings on electricity bills to get me interested.

Solar is dying.... And it's dying for the same reason it was always going to die.

All of these numbers were figured out long ago and then buried under a persecution of simple physical facts.
 
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Yeah, it wouldn't work for me. I live very near the Canadian border and we just don't get a lot of daylight in the winter months. Our neighbor tried to go total solar and even adding a bunch of panels they have never been totally detached from the grid. That poses another problem---batteries. In the time I've lived here, they have upgraded or replaced batteries twice and added panels too. In CA, they don't have much problem with the daylight or the extreme winter temps either.

What about a 250 KW wind turbine? Cost about 10k.... Good for 10 years.
 
What about a 250 KW wind turbine? Cost about 10k.... Good for 10 years.
I haven't heard about those, and with todays prices I wonder if they would be that cheap---just priced a mini split HVAC and the price has doubled since last year from $10k to $20K. If that price is true--it is a super deal, but probably wouldn't be effective for me either because we live in a small canyon and get virtually no wind. I do have a good well though and I've thought seriously about a self sufficient hydro electric set up using gravity to bring the water down from the upper part of the property to the lower part in tubes that contain multiple turbines. But like everything else, probably a pipe dream until I start feeling sufficient pain in my energy bill, LOL.
 
I haven't heard about those, and with todays prices I wonder if they would be that cheap---just priced a mini split HVAC and the price has doubled since last year from $10k to $20K. If that price is true--it is a super deal, but probably wouldn't be effective for me either because we live in a small canyon and get virtually no wind. I do have a good well though and I've thought seriously about a self sufficient hydro electric set up using gravity to bring the water down from the upper part of the property to the lower part in tubes that contain multiple turbines. But like everything else, probably a pipe dream until I start feeling sufficient pain in my energy bill, LOL.

The heat pump technology is definitely worth the effort. Some of them are over 200% efficient.
 
Solar is dying.... And it's dying for the same reason it was always going to die.

All of these numbers will figure out long ago and then buried under a persecution of simple physical facts.
We do have some massive solar farms here. All told Az gets about 10 percent of it's power from all sources of solar. Interestingly we have one nuclear plant Palo Verde that has operated perfectly for nearly 40 years and produces over 27 percent of the state's power.
 
We do have some massive solar farms here. All told Az gets about 10 percent of it's power from all sources of solar. Interestingly we have one nuclear plant Palo Verde that has operated perfectly for nearly 40 years and produces over 27 percent of the state's power.

It may have an application going forward as I support systesy for a more reliable main system.
 
The heat pump technology is definitely worth the effort. Some of them are over 200% efficient.
A local friend just put a geothermal system in his shop. I was amazed. It really made sense. He just dug a trench six ft. deep and buried about an 8" tube in it. He circulates the air in the tube (40+ degrees) and heats that air. Beats the hell out of heating sub 20s air.
 
A local friend just put a geothermal system in his shop. I was amazed. It really made sense. He just dug a trench six ft. deep and buried about an 8" tube in it. He circulates the air in the tube (40+ degrees) and heats that air. Beats the hell out of heating sub 20s air.

Excellent
 
A local friend just put a geothermal system in his shop. I was amazed. It really made sense. He just dug a trench six ft. deep and buried about an 8" tube in it. He circulates the air in the tube (40+ degrees) and heats that air. Beats the hell out of heating sub 20s air.

Works even better in the summer...
 
My roof is brand new The roofing tiles are only 3 years old.. but the structure is over 100 years old and it's a low pitch roof with very long rafters.
I would be very suspicious of adding any weight to it without first reinforcing the structure


If I'm not being too nosy how much does that cost? And what's the size of your system?
I have 21 panels and if I remember correctly about ten grand.
 
My question for the rooftops as I see them in snow covered MN on asphalt shingles.

What is the cost of a roof replacement since shingles average 25 years and you have the added cost of removing the entire solar system and then remount it after the new roof?

A lot of folks mount them on roofs already 10 years old.

In the land of snow and hail it really doesn't make sense to me.

My average monthly bill is like $100 bucks.
Sure not worth it for me.
With a bill that low it doesn’t make sense. Here in Arizona the A/C runs twenty four/seven at least six months a year.
 
We do have some massive solar farms here. All told Az gets about 10 percent of it's power from all sources of solar. Interestingly we have one nuclear plant Palo Verde that has operated perfectly for nearly 40 years and produces over 27 percent of the state's power.
I was shocked to find a pile in the middle of the desert. I’m used to them being around large bodies of water for cooling.
 
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