New York Passes Bill Giving Congress a Way to Get Trump’s State Tax Returns

[bripat9643]

Do you think this type of lawmaking is just a bad idea?

To me, when you make laws that in intent is for just one individual, that seems to flaunt the intent of the “Equal Protection” clause.

Love the outside the box thinking, I think is could be dangerous.

It applies to everyone equally, fool.
Trump just happens to be the only one not volunteering his taxes.

Horseshit. They are directed solely at Trump.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

New York Passes Bill Giving Congress a Way to Get Trump’s State Tax Returns

New York State lawmakers on Wednesday gave their final approval to a bill that would clear a path for Congress to obtain President Trump’s state tax returns, injecting another element into a tortuous battle over the president’s refusal to release his taxes.

The bill, which is expected to be signed by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, a third-term Democrat and regular critic of Mr. Trump’s policies and behavior, will authorize state tax officials to release the president’s state returns to any one of three congressional committees.

The returns — filed in New York, the president’s home state and business headquarters — would likely contain much of the same information as the contested federal returns, though it remained unclear whether those congressional committees would use such new power in their investigations.


We live in interesting times...

State governments can not overrule federal law, you dumb fucking moron.

What federal law?
Theses are state taxes, fool.

 

[bripat9643]

New York Passes Bill Giving Congress a Way to Get Trump’s State Tax Returns

New York State lawmakers on Wednesday gave their final approval to a bill that would clear a path for Congress to obtain President Trump’s state tax returns, injecting another element into a tortuous battle over the president’s refusal to release his taxes.

The bill, which is expected to be signed by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, a third-term Democrat and regular critic of Mr. Trump’s policies and behavior, will authorize state tax officials to release the president’s state returns to any one of three congressional committees.

The returns — filed in New York, the president’s home state and business headquarters — would likely contain much of the same information as the contested federal returns, though it remained unclear whether those congressional committees would use such new power in their investigations.


We live in interesting times...

State governments can not overrule federal law, you dumb fucking moron.

What federal law?
Theses are state taxes, fool.

The federal law that says no one is entitled to have access to your IRS file. State taxes are based on the figures on your 1040. They only thing they have on them is gross income and net income. There are no other details on your state income taxes.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do you think this type of lawmaking is just a bad idea?

To me, when you make laws that in intent is for just one individual, that seems to flaunt the intent of the “Equal Protection” clause.

Love the outside the box thinking, I think is could be dangerous.

It applies to everyone equally, fool.
Trump just happens to be the only one not volunteering his taxes.

Horseshit. They are directed solely at Trump.

It can be directed at anyone. I'm fine with it.
Anyone running for public office should be required to provide tax returns.

 

[Faun]

New York Passes Bill Giving Congress a Way to Get Trump’s State Tax Returns

New York State lawmakers on Wednesday gave their final approval to a bill that would clear a path for Congress to obtain President Trump’s state tax returns, injecting another element into a tortuous battle over the president’s refusal to release his taxes.

The bill, which is expected to be signed by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, a third-term Democrat and regular critic of Mr. Trump’s policies and behavior, will authorize state tax officials to release the president’s state returns to any one of three congressional committees.

The returns — filed in New York, the president’s home state and business headquarters — would likely contain much of the same information as the contested federal returns, though it remained unclear whether those congressional committees would use such new power in their investigations.


We live in interesting times...

State governments can not overrule federal law, you dumb fucking moron.

What federal law?
Theses are state taxes, fool.

The federal law that says no one is entitled to have access to your IRS file. State taxes are based on the figures on your 1040. They only thing they have on them is gross income and net income. There are no other details on your state income taxes.

Fucking moron, those federal laws apply to federal filings, not state filings. The federal government can't dictate how states handle state taxes.

 

[initforme]

I'm all for making it law that all candidates from here forward release their returns. This then goes away.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

New York Passes Bill Giving Congress a Way to Get Trump’s State Tax Returns

New York State lawmakers on Wednesday gave their final approval to a bill that would clear a path for Congress to obtain President Trump’s state tax returns, injecting another element into a tortuous battle over the president’s refusal to release his taxes.

The bill, which is expected to be signed by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, a third-term Democrat and regular critic of Mr. Trump’s policies and behavior, will authorize state tax officials to release the president’s state returns to any one of three congressional committees.

The returns — filed in New York, the president’s home state and business headquarters — would likely contain much of the same information as the contested federal returns, though it remained unclear whether those congressional committees would use such new power in their investigations.


We live in interesting times...

That's wrong. Tax returns are private and no government should be allowed to force an individual to release them. Trump's a liar who promised he would release them and then reneged on that promise, but that his prerogative. This is a bad precedent.

Totally agree with you. Also the law is targeted at just one person, which is also disturbing. This will eroded our rights quicker than anything.

It's not targeted at one person. The law will be around long after Trump.

 

[Papageorgio]

Do you think this type of lawmaking is just a bad idea?

To me, when you make laws that in intent is for just one individual, that seems to flaunt the intent of the “Equal Protection” clause.

Love the outside the box thinking, I think is could be dangerous.

It applies to everyone equally, fool.
Trump just happens to be the only one not volunteering his taxes.

The law was put into place to specifically allow Congress to request tax returns from the state of New York. Now, name all the millions of people that live in New York that Congress would like to look at their taxes? Just one and that is the problem, it is targeting a specific person. That is troubling because of the precedent. I like the idea they thought out of the box, however I worry about the common citizen.

 

[bripat9643]

New York Passes Bill Giving Congress a Way to Get Trump’s State Tax Returns

New York State lawmakers on Wednesday gave their final approval to a bill that would clear a path for Congress to obtain President Trump’s state tax returns, injecting another element into a tortuous battle over the president’s refusal to release his taxes.

The bill, which is expected to be signed by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, a third-term Democrat and regular critic of Mr. Trump’s policies and behavior, will authorize state tax officials to release the president’s state returns to any one of three congressional committees.

The returns — filed in New York, the president’s home state and business headquarters — would likely contain much of the same information as the contested federal returns, though it remained unclear whether those congressional committees would use such new power in their investigations.


We live in interesting times...

State governments can not overrule federal law, you dumb fucking moron.

What federal law?
Theses are state taxes, fool.

The federal law that says no one is entitled to have access to your IRS file. State taxes are based on the figures on your 1040. They only thing they have on them is gross income and net income. There are no other details on your state income taxes.

Fucking moron, those federal laws apply to federal filings, not state filings. The federal government can't dictate how states handle state taxes.

As I already pointed out, the only information on your state return that comes from your federal return is your gross income and net income.

 

[Care4all]

First, New York state is not simply handing tax returns over to congress willy nilly... The chairmen, (only of 3 specific committees by law), that requests under federal law, a persons tax returns from the Treasury dept, can request from the state of NY, the same year's tax returns, from the state of Ny, IF THE SAID PERSON's residence is in New York, and he files his taxes there.

They do have to be requested by these 3 chairmen to get them AFTER they have filed a treasury dept request....

Regardless, I don't think this is such a good idea... and it is likely that Nadler, or the other 2 chairmen allowed, do either. It is better for them to keep this as a federal fight, between congressional power and the executive branch, and allow the third branch of gvt, give a decision based on the US Constitution.

It is more than likely, the Congress will win, the executive branch will lose... the law says ''shall''...

Our founders made Congress as who was in Article 1 of the constitution, the executive branch as Article 2.... Congress in their minds, is more important in a democratic republic, than the executive, because congress represents, we the people...

Also, the purpose of needing the tax returns and his financials is because he is likely breaking the emolument clause of the constitution... among other reasons,

all legitimate congressional duties... President Trump will lose this battle with ease and the supreme court will likely not even take the case, it is so clearly within congress's power and in the Law.

 

[Faun]

New York Passes Bill Giving Congress a Way to Get Trump’s State Tax Returns

New York State lawmakers on Wednesday gave their final approval to a bill that would clear a path for Congress to obtain President Trump’s state tax returns, injecting another element into a tortuous battle over the president’s refusal to release his taxes.

The bill, which is expected to be signed by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, a third-term Democrat and regular critic of Mr. Trump’s policies and behavior, will authorize state tax officials to release the president’s state returns to any one of three congressional committees.

The returns — filed in New York, the president’s home state and business headquarters — would likely contain much of the same information as the contested federal returns, though it remained unclear whether those congressional committees would use such new power in their investigations.


We live in interesting times...

State governments can not overrule federal law, you dumb fucking moron.

What federal law?
Theses are state taxes, fool.

The federal law that says no one is entitled to have access to your IRS file. State taxes are based on the figures on your 1040. They only thing they have on them is gross income and net income. There are no other details on your state income taxes.

Fucking moron, those federal laws apply to federal filings, not state filings. The federal government can't dictate how states handle state taxes.

As I already pointed out, the only information on your state return that comes from your federal return is your gross income and net income.

That's not true. State taxes are filed on separate forms.

 

[bripat9643]

State governments can not overrule federal law, you dumb fucking moron.

What federal law?
Theses are state taxes, fool.

The federal law that says no one is entitled to have access to your IRS file. State taxes are based on the figures on your 1040. They only thing they have on them is gross income and net income. There are no other details on your state income taxes.

Fucking moron, those federal laws apply to federal filings, not state filings. The federal government can't dictate how states handle state taxes.

As I already pointed out, the only information on your state return that comes from your federal return is your gross income and net income.

That's not true. State taxes are filed on separate forms.

Right. The forms say "enter amount from gross income line" and "enter amount from net income line. There are no 1099s or other schedules of expenses and income sources.

 

[Slyhunter]

New York Passes Bill Giving Congress a Way to Get Trump’s State Tax Returns

New York State lawmakers on Wednesday gave their final approval to a bill that would clear a path for Congress to obtain President Trump’s state tax returns, injecting another element into a tortuous battle over the president’s refusal to release his taxes.

The bill, which is expected to be signed by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, a third-term Democrat and regular critic of Mr. Trump’s policies and behavior, will authorize state tax officials to release the president’s state returns to any one of three congressional committees.

The returns — filed in New York, the president’s home state and business headquarters — would likely contain much of the same information as the contested federal returns, though it remained unclear whether those congressional committees would use such new power in their investigations.


We live in interesting times...

Violate his Rights. This will go to the Supreme Court.

 

[g5000]

I cannot wait for the next Democrat president. Just investigate him so he cannot do anything. Way to set the new rules!

Like Republicans did to Clinton.

Republicans worked with Clinton. I have never seen this kind of childish behavior being done by our representatives. The almost three year 30 million dollar investigation proved Trump didn't do anything. Instead of saying okay let's do work for all Americans. They decide to still go after Trump. Oh and the Clinton's withheld evidence and Trump didn't.

"Republicans worked with Clinton. I have never seen this kind of childish behavior being done by our representatives."

Like Republicans did to Obama.

Obama got just about everything he wanted. Try again.

Were you in grammar school while Obama was President? Because only someone who was would claim Obama got everything he wanted.

 

[Faun]

What federal law?
Theses are state taxes, fool.

The federal law that says no one is entitled to have access to your IRS file. State taxes are based on the figures on your 1040. They only thing they have on them is gross income and net income. There are no other details on your state income taxes.

Fucking moron, those federal laws apply to federal filings, not state filings. The federal government can't dictate how states handle state taxes.

As I already pointed out, the only information on your state return that comes from your federal return is your gross income and net income.

That's not true. State taxes are filed on separate forms.

Right. The forms say "enter amount from gross income line" and "enter amount from net income line. There are no 1099s or other schedules of expenses and income sources.

Fucking moron ... did you really think the forum needed even more evidence you're a fucking moron....?

Income tax full-year resident forms (current year)

 

[g5000]

New York Passes Bill Giving Congress a Way to Get Trump’s State Tax Returns

New York State lawmakers on Wednesday gave their final approval to a bill that would clear a path for Congress to obtain President Trump’s state tax returns, injecting another element into a tortuous battle over the president’s refusal to release his taxes.

The bill, which is expected to be signed by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, a third-term Democrat and regular critic of Mr. Trump’s policies and behavior, will authorize state tax officials to release the president’s state returns to any one of three congressional committees.

The returns — filed in New York, the president’s home state and business headquarters — would likely contain much of the same information as the contested federal returns, though it remained unclear whether those congressional committees would use such new power in their investigations.


We live in interesting times...

This , of course, will go to court and the libs really don't want to win this case.

That's because there is really nothing in the returns which is incriminating, and further, it opens the door to have their own financial records exposed.

Right now, they are getting the maximum amount of demagoguery possible from this phony issue. If they actually were to see and expose the Trump tax returns, it would be a real letdown

So you've seen his tax returns and know there is nothing incriminating in them. Sure thing, Boogie.

No, I haven't seen his tax returns. But Tax Experts for the New York Revenue Department as well as the IRS have gone over them with a fine toothed comb. The fact that Donald J. Trump is wearing a dark suit, white shirt and either blue or red solid tie this morning and isn't in an orange jumpsuit, tells me that the returns are fine.

You see, I'm not a tax expert,

The reason the tax returns are wanted is because Michael Cohen claimed Trump valuated his assets differently depending on which organization he was filing with.

The IRS does not examine your insurance records. Only your taxes.

Congress wants both to see if Cohen's claim of fraud are accurate.

No one "valuates" assets on their 1040 unless they produce a capital gain. Otherwise, they only report income from those assets. Your theory is absolute horseshit. For another thing, this demand has nothing to do with Congressional oversite. It's purely a fishing expedition for dirt on Trump.

Nice try. And now a dose of reality:


Ocasio-Cortez: "Okay. Thank you. Secondly, I want to ask a little bit about your conversation with my colleague from Missouri about asset inflation. To your knowledge, did the president ever provide inflated assets to an insurance company?"

Cohen: "Yes."

Ocasio-Cortez: "Who else knows that the president did this?"

Cohen: "Allen Weisselberg, Ron Lieberman, and Matthew Calamari."

Ocasio-Cortez: "And where would the committee find more information on this? Do you think we need to review his financial statements and his tax returns in order to compare them?"

Cohen: "Yes. And you would find it at the Trump Org."

 

[g5000]

New York Passes Bill Giving Congress a Way to Get Trump’s State Tax Returns

New York State lawmakers on Wednesday gave their final approval to a bill that would clear a path for Congress to obtain President Trump’s state tax returns, injecting another element into a tortuous battle over the president’s refusal to release his taxes.

The bill, which is expected to be signed by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, a third-term Democrat and regular critic of Mr. Trump’s policies and behavior, will authorize state tax officials to release the president’s state returns to any one of three congressional committees.

The returns — filed in New York, the president’s home state and business headquarters — would likely contain much of the same information as the contested federal returns, though it remained unclear whether those congressional committees would use such new power in their investigations.


We live in interesting times...

State governments can not overrule federal law, you dumb fucking moron.

What federal law?
Theses are state taxes, fool.

The federal law that says no one is entitled to have access to your IRS file.

Not true. You're going to have to cite the law to back up that claim.

 

[g5000]

The federal law that says no one is entitled to have access to your IRS file.

26 U.S. Code § 6103 - Confidentiality and disclosure of returns and return information

Disclosure to Committees of Congress
Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

State taxes are based on the figures on your 1040. They only thing they have on them is gross income and net income. There are no other details on your state income taxes.

My state income tax return is several pages, and I'm not even a fake billionaire.

 

[jknowgood]

I cannot wait for the next Democrat president. Just investigate him so he cannot do anything. Way to set the new rules!

Like Republicans did to Clinton.

Republicans worked with Clinton. I have never seen this kind of childish behavior being done by our representatives. The almost three year 30 million dollar investigation proved Trump didn't do anything. Instead of saying okay let's do work for all Americans. They decide to still go after Trump. Oh and the Clinton's withheld evidence and Trump didn't.

"Republicans worked with Clinton. I have never seen this kind of childish behavior being done by our representatives."

Like Republicans did to Obama.

Obama got just about everything he wanted. Try again.

Were you in grammar school while Obama was President? Because only someone who was would claim Obama got everything he wanted.

I'm probably old enough to be your father. So shut up!

 

[g5000]

Like Republicans did to Clinton.

Republicans worked with Clinton. I have never seen this kind of childish behavior being done by our representatives. The almost three year 30 million dollar investigation proved Trump didn't do anything. Instead of saying okay let's do work for all Americans. They decide to still go after Trump. Oh and the Clinton's withheld evidence and Trump didn't.

"Republicans worked with Clinton. I have never seen this kind of childish behavior being done by our representatives."

Like Republicans did to Obama.

Obama got just about everything he wanted. Try again.

Were you in grammar school while Obama was President? Because only someone who was would claim Obama got everything he wanted.

I'm probably old enough to be your father. So shut up!

Ah. So it must be Alzheimer's causing you to make shit up.