Palestine: the things you don’t hear about

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Pro-Palestinian Protests Take Place Across The World | Israel Palestine War | English News | N18V​

 

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WASHINGTON - US House of Representatives members call for a ceasefire in Gaza​

 

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Demonstration in support of Palestine in Toronto​

 

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A large Palestinian flag was unveiled during Ska-p concert in Chile​

 

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The protests must be working. Israel has seriously shifted gears. (protecting civilians, aid, fuel) They are still destroying all of the infrastructure.

The meek shall inherit the rubble. ~ Rafeef Ziada

 

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LIVE From CEASEFIRE Protest at Columbia University After College Suspends 2 Pro-Palestine Groups​

 

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[Coyote]

Ok…mea culpa. I have not participated in this thread or forum for a long time and it seems to have veered way off course. Can we get closer to its intent? It was intended as a way of understanding people as human beings, in this case Palestinians, as people and a culture. It is not politics, not about Sudan, not about protests around the world, not about Hamas, not about what the Israeli’s are doing, not about “evil Mooslims” or “evil Joos” or the current conflict or any side‘s propaganda missions. Now, more than ever it is time to remember that underneath demonization and unsourced unverifiable TwitterX claims…we have real people Jewish AND Palestinian.

Lots of threads in here to post the other stuff. I’m asking kindly, as the OP, to respect the intent of this thread.

Thank you.

 

[Coyote]

I thought this was interesting because it looks at culture and in particular a diaspora culture, where a particular event, displacing a people, ends up defining a culture or creating a new culture.

From National Geographic:

Diaspora refers to a large group of people who may share a national or regional origin, but for a variety of reasons, are living outside of this traditional homeland. Diasporic populations are often outnumbered in their new nation of residence. Diaspora was initially used to describe the migrations of Jewish people after the fall of Jerusalem in the sixth century B.C.E. It has since been used to describe other instances of mass migration or forced relocation. Diasporic populations often have strong social and cultural ties to their homeland, but may also have multiple cultural identities.​

Diaspora has long been a key pillar of Jewish culture and identity and it is a defining element of Palestinian identity. A point of commonality separated by thousands of years.

From the same article:
Throughout global history, there have been hundreds of migration movements, which created and continue to create diasporic populations. Many diasporas have been traumatic. The Jewish diaspora consisted of centuries of Jewish migration, often because of historical expulsion and discrimination. The African diaspora refers to the large populations of African people brought against their will to the Americas through the institution of slavery. The Irish diaspora occurred due to famine and other poor economic conditions, which forced many Irish people to move to North America and Europe. The Armenian, Palestinian, and Syrian diasporas emerged because of conflict.

Diaspora cultures are hardly new but have existed as long as human conflict and migration.

One of the most frequent arguments I hear aimed at marginalizing Palestinians and their rights is that they are “just Arabs”, a “fake people” and that is used as a justification uprooting them and expelling them from their homelands. I don’t agree with that argument. All peoples and cultures start somewhere, sometime…where they either split from the main cultural group; are separated through migration, geographic isolation or a cataclysmic event. The culture or identity as a people can originate and be defined by that event. There is no time cut off that says it only “counts” if it occurred thousands of years ago.

The Palestinians are defined by the expulsion and diaspora of Nakhba and their conflict with Israel. It is irrelevant as to how accurate the narrative is,( each side is selserving in its control of their own narratives), it is still a defining event for them as a people, separating them from other Arabic peoples.). This culture has heritage includes expulsion, marginalization, refugee camps all wrapped in a longing for a lost homeland.


This can be found in their music and reflected in their art and poetry.

Palestinian Art Proclaims a People’s Identity in the Conflict With Israel - Al-Fanar Media

An Egyptian artist reviews prominent Palestinian art that focuses on Al-Aqsa Mosque as a national emblem.

www.al-fanarmedia.org

 

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Remembering a Palestinian scholar and his family, slain by Israel​

 

[Ropey]

BREAKING: Israel, Hamas Strike a Hostage Deal -- Here are the Details
— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) November 22, 2023

But there's a major problem. The women being released, while they haven't murdered anyone, have engaged in attempted murder and terrorism against Israeli civilians and soldiers.

The list of the 150 released prisoners just completely debunked the lie that Israel just arresting innocent Palestinian women and children who "just threw stones"

Almost all the women committed stabbing or shooting attacks,
Almost all the "children" were 17-18 years old men with… pic.twitter.com/klI13NeG3U
— Adin - עדין (@AdinHaykin1) November 22, 2023

One of the women set to be freed in exchange for kidnapped civilian mothers and babies tried to kill an Israeli officer a few months ago. pic.twitter.com/tlJPqa9qA0
— Shoshanna Keats Jaskoll (@skjask) November 22, 2023

Remember this:

The Palestinians who will be released in the impending deal are convicted terrorists who are in prison because they tried to murder Israelis.

The Israelis who will be freed are innocent civilians being held hostage by terrorists.

There is no equivalence. None.
— Avi Mayer אבי מאיר (@AviMayer) November 21, 2023

 

[Ropey]

I thought this was interesting because it looks at culture and in particular a diaspora culture, where a particular event, displacing a people, ends up defining a culture or creating a new culture.

From National Geographic:

Diaspora refers to a large group of people who may share a national or regional origin, but for a variety of reasons, are living outside of this traditional homeland. Diasporic populations are often outnumbered in their new nation of residence. Diaspora was initially used to describe the migrations of Jewish people after the fall of Jerusalem in the sixth century B.C.E. It has since been used to describe other instances of mass migration or forced relocation. Diasporic populations often have strong social and cultural ties to their homeland, but may also have multiple cultural identities.​

Diaspora has long been a key pillar of Jewish culture and identity and it is a defining element of Palestinian identity. A point of commonality separated by thousands of years.

From the same article:
Throughout global history, there have been hundreds of migration movements, which created and continue to create diasporic populations. Many diasporas have been traumatic. The Jewish diaspora consisted of centuries of Jewish migration, often because of historical expulsion and discrimination. The African diaspora refers to the large populations of African people brought against their will to the Americas through the institution of slavery. The Irish diaspora occurred due to famine and other poor economic conditions, which forced many Irish people to move to North America and Europe. The Armenian, Palestinian, and Syrian diasporas emerged because of conflict.

Diaspora cultures are hardly new but have existed as long as human conflict and migration.

One of the most frequent arguments I hear aimed at marginalizing Palestinians and their rights is that they are “just Arabs”, a “fake people” and that is used as a justification uprooting them and expelling them from their homelands. I don’t agree with that argument. All peoples and cultures start somewhere, sometime…where they either split from the main cultural group; are separated through migration, geographic isolation or a cataclysmic event. The culture or identity as a people can originate and be defined by that event. There is no time cut off that says it only “counts” if it occurred thousands of years ago.

The Palestinians are defined by the expulsion and diaspora of Nakhba and their conflict with Israel. It is irrelevant as to how accurate the narrative is,( each side is selserving in its control of their own narratives), it is still a defining event for them as a people, separating them from other Arabic peoples.). This culture has heritage includes expulsion, marginalization, refugee camps all wrapped in a longing for a lost homeland.


This can be found in their music and reflected in their art and poetry.

Palestinian Art Proclaims a People’s Identity in the Conflict With Israel - Al-Fanar Media

An Egyptian artist reviews prominent Palestinian art that focuses on Al-Aqsa Mosque as a national emblem.

www.al-fanarmedia.org

Link

You need to focus on this Coyote, I know, you're not listening to it since it ruins your fake narrative.

This is the reason it's a grand thing that all your games and stickies in this forum are gone.