Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border

[Shusha]

Are you saying that Israel SHOULD be going into Gaza to arrest people? What happened to your frequent comment that Israel has no right to step intoned gaza territory?

And rules justified by whom? What criteria do they use for "justified"?

I'm saying Israel shouldn't be shooting innocent, unarmed civilians.

Presumably it's okay for Israel to continue to shoot the armed, violent ones.

 

[Hollie]

I was surprised what follows came out of the New York Times.

The article nicely encapsulates the absurdity of making excuses for Islamic terrorist franchises as Hamas, as one example, is just another totalitarian Islamic terrorist enterprise.

Palestinian Lives Don’t Matter*
*Unless Israel is to blame.

Opinion | Palestinian Lives Don’t Matter*

The current round of demonstrations, which began last week, comes in reaction to years of Hamas’s economic mismanagement, price hikes and recent tax increases. This is not for lack of funds on Hamas’s part: Since 2012, the group has taken in over a billion dollars from Qatar alone to pay the costs of fuel, humanitarian aid and civil-servant salaries.

Where that money goes is another question. In 2014, The Wall Street Journal reported that Hamas had spent some $90 million building attack tunnels into Israel, at an average cost of nearly $3 million a tunnel. The material devoted to each tunnel, the Journal reported, was “enough to build 86 homes, seven mosques, six schools or 19 medical clinics.” Three wars against Israel, each started by Hamas, have also taken their toll in lives, injuries, infrastructure and isolation.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Joe Truzman presented his findings, which are at odds with a UN Report, on the identity of many of those killed — they were military members of terrorist groups including Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

We have extensively documented how the supposedly “peaceful protests” at the Gaza-Israel border fence are, in reality, Hamas and Islamic Jihad military terror operations using some civilians as cover, including women and children.

Over 80% of the Gazans killed at the border have been military members of terrorist groups, the best evidence that these are not really civilian protests. Even some of the “children” involved, and who have been killed or injured, were teenage military members of terrorist groups.

(full article online)

Meet some of the people the UN calls "civilians" killed in Gaza border clashes

 

[Sixties Fan]

Israel shells Hamas post after explosion of balloon-borne bomb from Gaza

 

[P F Tinmore]

Joe Truzman presented his findings, which are at odds with a UN Report, on the identity of many of those killed — they were military members of terrorist groups including Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

We have extensively documented how the supposedly “peaceful protests” at the Gaza-Israel border fence are, in reality, Hamas and Islamic Jihad military terror operations using some civilians as cover, including women and children.

Over 80% of the Gazans killed at the border have been military members of terrorist groups, the best evidence that these are not really civilian protests. Even some of the “children” involved, and who have been killed or injured, were teenage military members of terrorist groups.

(full article online)

Meet some of the people the UN calls "civilians" killed in Gaza border clashes

If they are unarmed and off duty, they are civilians.

 

[Shusha]

Joe Truzman presented his findings, which are at odds with a UN Report, on the identity of many of those killed — they were military members of terrorist groups including Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

We have extensively documented how the supposedly “peaceful protests” at the Gaza-Israel border fence are, in reality, Hamas and Islamic Jihad military terror operations using some civilians as cover, including women and children.

Over 80% of the Gazans killed at the border have been military members of terrorist groups, the best evidence that these are not really civilian protests. Even some of the “children” involved, and who have been killed or injured, were teenage military members of terrorist groups.

(full article online)

Meet some of the people the UN calls "civilians" killed in Gaza border clashes

If they are unarmed and off duty, they are civilians.

If they are present at an armed and violent conflict and actively participating, they are "on-duty".

 

[P F Tinmore]

Joe Truzman presented his findings, which are at odds with a UN Report, on the identity of many of those killed — they were military members of terrorist groups including Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

We have extensively documented how the supposedly “peaceful protests” at the Gaza-Israel border fence are, in reality, Hamas and Islamic Jihad military terror operations using some civilians as cover, including women and children.

Over 80% of the Gazans killed at the border have been military members of terrorist groups, the best evidence that these are not really civilian protests. Even some of the “children” involved, and who have been killed or injured, were teenage military members of terrorist groups.

(full article online)

Meet some of the people the UN calls "civilians" killed in Gaza border clashes

If they are unarmed and off duty, they are civilians.

If they are present at an armed and violent conflict and actively participating, they are "on-duty".

Armed, really?

 

[Shusha]

Joe Truzman presented his findings, which are at odds with a UN Report, on the identity of many of those killed — they were military members of terrorist groups including Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

We have extensively documented how the supposedly “peaceful protests” at the Gaza-Israel border fence are, in reality, Hamas and Islamic Jihad military terror operations using some civilians as cover, including women and children.

Over 80% of the Gazans killed at the border have been military members of terrorist groups, the best evidence that these are not really civilian protests. Even some of the “children” involved, and who have been killed or injured, were teenage military members of terrorist groups.

(full article online)

Meet some of the people the UN calls "civilians" killed in Gaza border clashes

If they are unarmed and off duty, they are civilians.

If they are present at an armed and violent conflict and actively participating, they are "on-duty".

Armed, really?

Seriously?! You are going to try to argue that there are no weapons present in the conflict zone? Don't be willfully stupid.

 

[Hollie]

Joe Truzman presented his findings, which are at odds with a UN Report, on the identity of many of those killed — they were military members of terrorist groups including Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

We have extensively documented how the supposedly “peaceful protests” at the Gaza-Israel border fence are, in reality, Hamas and Islamic Jihad military terror operations using some civilians as cover, including women and children.

Over 80% of the Gazans killed at the border have been military members of terrorist groups, the best evidence that these are not really civilian protests. Even some of the “children” involved, and who have been killed or injured, were teenage military members of terrorist groups.

(full article online)

Meet some of the people the UN calls "civilians" killed in Gaza border clashes

If they are unarmed and off duty, they are civilians.

If they are present at an armed and violent conflict and actively participating, they are "on-duty".

Armed, really?

When you start the gee-had, the war is on.

Thanks. Now go whine about how unfair it is that you and yours are the forever losers.

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Oh, look.....no war crimes being committed by the Arabs in Gaza, well.....according to the UN ]

Several thousand Palestinians were protesting along the Gaza Strip border on Friday, throwing explosive devices and rocks at soldiers who were responding with tear gas and occasional live fire. Palestinians said two people were killed.

Also Friday, a balloon carrying an incendiary device launched from Gaza set a blaze between homes in the nearby Israeli kibbutz of Nir Am. The fire was extinguished and there were no reports of injuries. Another blaze was started near Kibbutz Be’eri.

In riots along the barrier, Palestinians tried to destroy the border fence in several places, but were pushed back by the IDF. The Hamas-run Gaza health ministry said two Palestinians, an 18-year-old and a 29-year-old, were killed by live fire and 30 wounded.

(full article online)

2 said in killed riots on Gaza border, fire balloons cause blazes in Israel

 

[Sixties Fan]

Hamas said it will increase its launching of incendiary balloons during the day this week.

(full article online)

Hamas 'night unit' threatens escalation on Gaza border

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Israeli military said Saturday it launched airstrikes against two terror cells in Gaza, after they flew balloons rigged with explosives into Israel.

"Troops identified a terrorist squad which launched explosive balloons into Israeli territory from the southern Gaza Strip," the IDF said in a statement.


"In response, an Israel Defense Forces aircraft fired towards the terrorists."

A subsequent statement said that an aircraft fired at "an additional terrorist squad" which also launched explosive balloons from southern Gaza.

(full article online)

Israel strikes Gaza terror cells

 

[Billo_Really]

Not at all. You can do a quick search and find the fact for yourself.

They are not Islamic border riots. They are peaceful protests showing their opposition to the existing occupation they've been forced to live under against all international laws.

You think people are stupid enough to buy into your bullshit labels?

 

[Billo_Really]

Don’t let your hurt feelings get in the way.

Why would my feelings get hurt? This conflict doesn't affect my daily life in any way. You have to care in order to be hurt and I could care less. I just don't like pricks like you trying to tell me the emperor has new clothes.

 

[Slyhunter]

Not at all. You can do a quick search and find the fact for yourself.

They are not Islamic border riots. They are peaceful protests showing their opposition to the existing occupation they've been forced to live under against all international laws.

You think people are stupid enough to buy into your bullshit labels?

Peaceful protest don't fly flame balloons.
Peaceful protests don't try to tear down the border fence.
Peaceful protests don't throw bombs and rocks at the border guards.
Peaceful my ass.

 

[Billo_Really]

Presumably it's okay for Israel to continue to shoot the armed, violent ones.

Wrong. You can only use deadly force when your life is threatened. Someone out duck hunting, is not threatening your life. Someone fishing, is not threatening your life. Someone standing there smoking a cigarette, is not threatening your life. First responders giving care to the wounded, is not threatening your life.

Are you that big of a pussy that you refuse to deal with what Israel does wrong?

 

[Slyhunter]

Presumably it's okay for Israel to continue to shoot the armed, violent ones.

Wrong. You can only use deadly force when your life is threatened. Someone out duck hunting, is not threatening your life. Someone fishing, is not threatening your life. Someone standing there smoking a cigarette, is not threatening your life. First responders giving care to the wounded, is not threatening your life.

Are you that big of a pussy that you refuse to deal with what Israel does wrong?

It's war, people die, until the war is over. It isn't over until someone capitulates. Israel should drop Napalm on the crowds.

 

[Billo_Really]

Peaceful protest don't fly flame balloons.
Peaceful protests don't try to tear down the border fence.
Peaceful protests don't throw bombs and rocks at the border guards.
Peaceful my ass.

Peaceful countries don't imprison 1.5 million people, who have committed no crime, against their will.

 

[Slyhunter]

Peaceful protest don't fly flame balloons.
Peaceful protests don't try to tear down the border fence.
Peaceful protests don't throw bombs and rocks at the border guards.
Peaceful my ass.

Peaceful countries don't imprison 1.5 million people, who have committed no crime, against their will.

How are they imprisoning them? By not allowing them to cross the border into Israel. Israel is allowed to decide who can enter their country. israel is allowed to seal up enemy territory until they surrender.

 

[Billo_Really]

It's war, people die, until the war is over. It isn't over until someone capitulates. Israel should drop Napalm on the crowds.

It's not a war. It's a belligerant occupation. Wars are fought between competing army's. Not between one of the most militarized country on the planet versus a population under occupation that is not even allowed to have weapons to defend themselves.