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police state! gestapo! facism! hitler! gas chambers!
I hope you're the first to get a boot on the back of your neck punk or maybe you wouldn't feel so flippant if some bald, militarized pigs busted down your door, capped your animals, put a gun to your kids head and trashed the place all because they were in the wrong house. Happens all the time. Show some respect.
Think so?[...]
also, the odds are so infinitesimally small for this to happen to an innocent person, I think reaching the conclusion we are in a "police state" is being a gigantic, far reaching pussy.
Go here: Botched Paramilitary Police Raids | Cato Institute
And here: SWAT Fever: It's Epidemic (Sorry About The Dogs) - Raw Fisher
And here: More Militarized Than the Military | The Agitator
And Here: No-knock "drug war" warrant = dead dogs, ruined home - Gordon Wagner - Open Salon
What you should understand is an American police state could not happen suddenly because our population has been conditioned to resist it -- if we can see it coming. But the way it unquestionably is happening is by incremental stages, such as the increasing frequency of these SWAT raids and the gradual militarization of our police agencies.
The American police state will not be announced nor will it arrive with a parade and a flourish. One day we will wake up and it will be here -- and as real as it gets.
And of course they found no Meth. Shoot first, ask questions later. Guilty till proven innocent. What a fine country we're becoming ay?
The widow of an 80-year-old man who was shot dead by police during a drug raid on their home is suing for $50 million.
On the night of June 27th, Los Angeles County deputies raided the home of Eugene Mallory and Tonya Pate. Authorities claim they had probable cause to search the premises because they could smell chemicals used to make methamphetamine while standing outside the house. Police suspected Mallory of being involved in an illegal meth ring.
Mallory was asleep in bed when police entered his home. Pate said her husband has bad eyesight, and couldnt tell that the men entering the house were police officers without his glasses.
What happened next is disputed by police and Pate. The deputies claim that Mallory pointed a gun at them, requiring them to take defensive measures. They shot him six times, and he died.
But Pate maintained that her husband did no such thing.
He would never point a gun at officers, she said. He was taken from me for no reason.
Pate is suing the sheriffs office for $50 million. The coroners office is also named in the suit; the office released Mallorys body to an out-of-state relative, and Pate claimed he was cremated before her own investigators could perform an autopsy.
Police found no meth, nor evidence of a meth operation, inside the house. They did find marijuana in Pates sons room.
The sheriffs department insists that the marijuana vindicates the raid...
Read more: Police smell meth, raid home, kill 80-year-old, find no meth | The Daily Caller
You apparently are too young to remember a time in America, not that long ago, when the statistical occurrence of these unnecessary or botched SWAT raids was zero! So calculate the percentage of increase since approximately the 1950s when just one such police raid on an innocent civilian's home would have been front page news and a lot of asses would have fried. Ask your parents or grandparents.Your links ESPECIALLY prove the point.
There are 300, 000, 000 (more than that, actually) people in this Country.
Your own (biased) map shows about ten innocent deaths from botched police raids.
10/300, 000, 000
= you have a 0.0000033% chance of this ever happening to you.
A "pattern" you panic attacks call that?
Yea, I don't think so. Let's compare something that is similarly likely to occur to you:
%0.0000001% chance of a lightning strike
Are we calling these "common" now?
police state! gestapo! facism! hitler! gas chambers!
Hey maybe you'll be the next victim of a botched police raid and you or someone in your house will end up riddled with bullets.
They should have never been in the man's home. Even if he did have a weapon, there was no justification for them being in his home. A completely insane and unnecessary murder. These Officers should be held accountable. And i don't mean suspension with or without pay either. They should be arrested and prosecuted. Period, end of story.
How shaky is that excuse anyway?
"We smelled something"
Give me a break.
For all we know they got a whiff of Ben Gay.
And of course they found no Meth. Shoot first, ask questions later. Guilty till proven innocent. What a fine country we're becoming ay?
The widow of an 80-year-old man who was shot dead by police during a drug raid on their home is suing for $50 million.
On the night of June 27th, Los Angeles County deputies raided the home of Eugene Mallory and Tonya Pate. Authorities claim they had probable cause to search the premises because they could smell chemicals used to make methamphetamine while standing outside the house. Police suspected Mallory of being involved in an illegal meth ring.
Mallory was asleep in bed when police entered his home. Pate said her husband has bad eyesight, and couldnt tell that the men entering the house were police officers without his glasses.
What happened next is disputed by police and Pate. The deputies claim that Mallory pointed a gun at them, requiring them to take defensive measures. They shot him six times, and he died.
But Pate maintained that her husband did no such thing.
He would never point a gun at officers, she said. He was taken from me for no reason.
Pate is suing the sheriffs office for $50 million. The coroners office is also named in the suit; the office released Mallorys body to an out-of-state relative, and Pate claimed he was cremated before her own investigators could perform an autopsy.
Police found no meth, nor evidence of a meth operation, inside the house. They did find marijuana in Pates sons room.
The sheriffs department insists that the marijuana vindicates the raid...
Read more: Police smell meth, raid home, kill 80-year-old, find no meth | The Daily Caller
Candidate Obama made a concentrated effort to convey the impression he was inclined to move in that direction. But it turned out to be the first of his many fraudulent presentations, lies, and betrayals.[...]
I wonder how many more decades the War on (some) Drugs will continue before everyone realizes it is a failure and finally puts an end to it.
As long as there are cops in a land of 300 million people, there will be human error.
Crying every time and drawing the EXTREME conclusion that it's the "RULE" and not a RARE exception, is asinine.
300million people.
M-I-L-L-I-O-N
Please answer the question.
How many before you say it's a problem?
I'll bet you'd think it was a problem if it was you on the receiving end and you have just as much a chance as anyone else of being a victim of the cops.
iN A LAND OF THREE HUNDRED MILLION?
For it to even be a PATTERN, it would have to happen to at least 1% of the people.
AT LEAST 1%.
Not a couple hundred.,
Not a thousand.
Do you not know how big of a number 300million is?
1% of that would be 3, 000, 000 instances.
G'luck.
And of course they found no Meth. Shoot first, ask questions later. Guilty till proven innocent. What a fine country we're becoming ay?
The widow of an 80-year-old man who was shot dead by police during a drug raid on their home is suing for $50 million.
On the night of June 27th, Los Angeles County deputies raided the home of Eugene Mallory and Tonya Pate. Authorities claim they had probable cause to search the premises because they could smell chemicals used to make methamphetamine while standing outside the house. Police suspected Mallory of being involved in an illegal meth ring.
Mallory was asleep in bed when police entered his home. Pate said her husband has bad eyesight, and couldnt tell that the men entering the house were police officers without his glasses.
What happened next is disputed by police and Pate. The deputies claim that Mallory pointed a gun at them, requiring them to take defensive measures. They shot him six times, and he died.
But Pate maintained that her husband did no such thing.
He would never point a gun at officers, she said. He was taken from me for no reason.
Pate is suing the sheriffs office for $50 million. The coroners office is also named in the suit; the office released Mallorys body to an out-of-state relative, and Pate claimed he was cremated before her own investigators could perform an autopsy.
Police found no meth, nor evidence of a meth operation, inside the house. They did find marijuana in Pates sons room.
The sheriffs department insists that the marijuana vindicates the raid...
Read more: Police smell meth, raid home, kill 80-year-old, find no meth | The Daily Caller
Why is a tragic accident and possible negligence by Police a "police state"??
Do you know what a police state is?
And on a legal note, he was 80 years old -- $50 Million?? What are they smoking??
And it's always you conservatives who are in favor of limits on jury awarded damages. I don't believe there are any under Ca civil law, however.... I say again, $50 Million??? WTF??
police state! gestapo! facism! hitler! gas chambers!
Hey maybe you'll be the next victim of a botched police raid and you or someone in your house will end up riddled with bullets.
Nah man, no weed in here, or meth smell, and I wouldn't raise my gun at a Cop like a jackass.
also, the odds are so infinitesimally small for this to happen to an innocent person, I think reaching the conclusion we are in a "police state" is being a gigantic, far reaching pussy.
youre certainly right....getting murdered isnt somthing i spend my time worrying about...and its even less prevalent in less crime ridden areas.Please answer the question.
How many before you say it's a problem?
I'll bet you'd think it was a problem if it was you on the receiving end and you have just as much a chance as anyone else of being a victim of the cops.
iN A LAND OF THREE HUNDRED MILLION?
For it to even be a PATTERN, it would have to happen to at least 1% of the people.
AT LEAST 1%.
Not a couple hundred.,
Not a thousand.
Do you not know how big of a number 300million is?
1% of that would be 3, 000, 000 instances.
G'luck.
So it would take 3 million innocent people killed by cops before you though it was a problem? Not 3, not 30, not 300, not 3000, not 30,000 and not 300,000?
If that's the case then why have police investigate murders there are way less than 3 million murders a year after all if it's less than one percent of the population who gives a fuck. You certainly don't.
We aren't talking about "a" tragic accident, which is not an accident but an unnecessary and entirely preventable malfeasance. We are talking about an increasingly common abuse of police authority.Why is a tragic accident and possible negligence by Police a "police state"??
Do you know what a police state is?
On a legal note, are we talking about a side of beef or a loved one the loss of whom cannot be compensated by a punitive award in any amount? I've already lost my wife, who was also my best pal, and the pain of that loss still lingers after twenty-eight years. She died of cancer, but if a bunch of cowboy cops had broken into my house and killed her the value I would place on the loss would assuredly be greater than what you might feel it should be.And on a legal note, he was 80 years old -- $50 Million?? What are they smoking??
And it's always you conservatives who are in favor of limits on jury awarded damages. I don't believe there are any under Ca civil law, however.... I say again, $50 Million??? WTF??
Because something is happening hereMike...i dont find ten accidental deaths in such a dangerous business serving 300million people to be "epidemic" or. "Trend."
That stuff is overblown nonsense for the ppl afraid of their own shadows. When it starts to happen to more than 0.000003% then....we'll get "alarmed" but im no more scared of dying like this than i am of lightning striking me dead.
Because he pulled a gun on the police.
Probably thought that it was a totally chill idea, too. RIP
And of course they found no Meth. Shoot first, ask questions later. Guilty till proven innocent. What a fine country we're becoming ay?
The widow of an 80-year-old man who was shot dead by police during a drug raid on their home is suing for $50 million.
On the night of June 27th, Los Angeles County deputies raided the home of Eugene Mallory and Tonya Pate. Authorities claim they had probable cause to search the premises because they could smell chemicals used to make methamphetamine while standing outside the house. Police suspected Mallory of being involved in an illegal meth ring.
Mallory was asleep in bed when police entered his home. Pate said her husband has bad eyesight, and couldnt tell that the men entering the house were police officers without his glasses.
What happened next is disputed by police and Pate. The deputies claim that Mallory pointed a gun at them, requiring them to take defensive measures. They shot him six times, and he died.
But Pate maintained that her husband did no such thing.
He would never point a gun at officers, she said. He was taken from me for no reason.
Pate is suing the sheriffs office for $50 million. The coroners office is also named in the suit; the office released Mallorys body to an out-of-state relative, and Pate claimed he was cremated before her own investigators could perform an autopsy.
Police found no meth, nor evidence of a meth operation, inside the house. They did find marijuana in Pates sons room.
The sheriffs department insists that the marijuana vindicates the raid...
Read more: Police smell meth, raid home, kill 80-year-old, find no meth | The Daily Caller
Why is a tragic accident and possible negligence by Police a "police state"??
Do you know what a police state is?
And on a legal note, he was 80 years old -- $50 Million?? What are they smoking??
And it's always you conservatives who are in favor of limits on jury awarded damages. I don't believe there are any under Ca civil law, however.... I say again, $50 Million??? WTF??
