Politically owned

[RhodyPatriot]

What it's like to be so owned by one party or politician, that you're not even allowed to reason with opposing information. Even if it's 100% provable facts. To be so owned and loyal, that if someone presents a legit opposing argument, you have to get personal or attack them (verbally) or go out of your way to change the subjects. (Whataboutism)

It's been so long since I've become truly independent of all parties, that I can't imagine still being stuck with one. There's so much information out there that proves any side is corrupt, that still being owned by one, imo is out this world insane.

Here's a few example: The BS racism line that the left were running about George Floyd, BLM and systemic racism. The Defund the Police leftist would make you think that innocent blacks were getting killed by cops, left and right. For not other reason than them being black.
After a quick search through the records, come to find out, only less than 1% of those blacks were actually innocent. Less than 1% of those blacks were unarmed.


Another example is the Trump supporters claiming that Biden alone caused this inflation and high fuel prices. But again, the opposing arguments prove this economic downturn and high fuel prices were coming, regardless of who was president. They don't dare even think about holding Trump accountable for any of it. Even though all of this current mess started prior to the 2020 election.


But both sides will argue their side for eternity, regardless of the facts put in front of them. This is being politically owned. It's being politically loyal to your party or politicians. IMO, there's so many party loyalist in this country, that decent people wouldn't dare run for office. Only those that are at least a little radical. And many of them are dumb to the facts they're campaigning on or for.
And so, we end up with a fresh batch of mostly morons who only have the talking points down.
They get elected. The old guard that's still in office teaches them how to be corrupt. If they start trying to make things better, they're told by the leadership (and the lobbyist) to sit down, shut up, or you'll be defeated in the next election. And because they're dumb and don't know anything, they'll follow orders and become corrupted.
Those that don't, will get shunned by their peers and primaried in the next election.

This is how both parties do it. It's how they've been doing it for as long as I've been alive. And because we have so many party loyalist, this is how they'll continue to do it. We'll continue to get republicans who aren't fiscal conservatives. And democrats who don't really give a shoot about the American working class.

Wow, you're so "middle of the road" which automatically makes you legitimate.

And roadkill.

 

[YoursTruly]

Wow, you're so "middle of the road" which automatically makes you legitimate.

And roadkill.

I wouldn't call it middle of the road. I'm on the other road. Not even connected to the R & D's road. Who's road is leading to a cliff. My road leads to a big beautiful bridge.
They took a wrong turn back around Reagan Lane. I think their road is called "dead end." I seen the sign as I was passing.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

I wouldn't call it middle of the road. I'm on the other road. Not even connected to the R & D's road. Who's road is leading to a cliff. My road leads to a big beautiful bridge.

Then why do you talk like Donald Trump? haha

 

[candycorn]

And what we have here is a liar, who's vying to become some PR person for his party. Using known tactics like calling someone a racist.

I didn't make up any scenario. What I posted was factual. But you being the party loyalist you are, will claim otherwise in order to defend the party you're loyal to.

You're kind are a cancer on this country and our political system. It's why we have people like Pelosi and McConnell still in office, who should've retired a decade or more ago.
It's why 90% of our elected officials are owned by lobbyist.
It's why there's a lot of things wrong with our government. Because political loyalist keep the two party system alive and well.

Tired of one party, candycorn? Then stop helping your side keep the other side in power.

Proof: When a third party candidate starts gaining popularity, who joins forces to strike them down? It's the Republicans and democrats together. Arm and arm, fighting against any and all competition.
It takes two wings to fly, bro.

You made up quite a bit...hence no citations for your "1%" charges.

 

[YoursTruly]

Then why do you talk like Donald Trump? haha

You got me on that one. And honestly, I thought to myself that sounds like something Trump would say. And then clicked the post reply button.

 

[YoursTruly]

You made up quite a bit...hence no citations for your "1%" charges.

And here you are, once again, trying to play words games and change the subject. Did you miss the point? Are did you get the point and think to yourself "Hey, if I can only get him to talk about those numbers, instead of the point, maybe I can derail this entire thread."

It doesn't matter what you or I think. Party loyalist are still a cancer on our political system.

I'll grant you, there's no real way to change it. Realistically speaking, that is. No one can garner enough support to bring real change. The 07 Tea Party couldn't. The OW movement couldn't. This is much bigger than "we the people" can handle.

But knowing what the problem is, is at least a start. You can't kill an idea.

 

[candycorn]

And here you are, once again, trying to play words games and change the subject. Did you miss the point? Are did you get the point and think to yourself "Hey, if I can only get him to talk about those numbers, instead of the point, maybe I can derail this entire thread."

It doesn't matter what you or I think. Party loyalist are still a cancer on our political system.

I'll grant you, there's no real way to change it. Realistically speaking, that is. No one can garner enough support to bring real change. The 07 Tea Party couldn't. The OW movement couldn't. This is much bigger than "we the people" can handle.

But knowing what the problem is, is at least a start. You can't kill an idea.

Word games?

You made a bunch of statements in the OP that have no basis in reality. Sorry....

 

[YoursTruly]

Word games?

You made a bunch of statements in the OP that have no basis in reality. Sorry....

And you skipped over the entire point of the OP, just to argue semantics. A few decimal points is all you may be arguing. For what? So you don't have address the point.

We get it. You don't want to discuss the point. You want to change the subject. We get it, already.

 

[JimH52]

I think for people like this, they've never been able or willing to see clearly. They know they're a "genius" of some kind, and if they were to accept they're not, it would destroy them. So they do what they do hide the fact from themselves. I doubt they'd admit they are this in this thread.

AKA...another narscist.

 

[JimH52]

And you skipped over the entire point of the OP, just to argue semantics. A few decimal points is all you may be arguing. For what? So you don't have address the point.

We get it. You don't want to discuss the point. You want to change the subject. We get it, already.

Go give yourself an award.