President Trump signs bill for NASA to go to Mars

He has my support on this and the trade issues. The guy does have a few good points. ;)
Let's see, infrastructure, mission to Mars, trade policy bringing jobs back to America, do you think Hillary Clinton cared about any of those things?
 
For the time being sending a manned mission to Mars is a worthless endeavor. We need to go back to the Moon first.
 
He has my support on this and the trade issues. The guy does have a few good points. ;)
President Donald Trump’s gutting of many government entities has created some serious outrage from both sides of the isle, but one scientific agency Trump isn’t really messing with is NASA. The newly minted NASA Transition Authorization Act which just gained Trump’s signature lays out the agency’s budget for 2018, and it includes almost the exact same amount of funding as NASA has in 2017, and more than in both 2016 and 2015. Oh, and Trump definitely wants humans to visit Mars, too.

Under the bill, long-term NASA projects like the Orion spacecraft will continue to receive the funding they need to make it to the finish line, and the overarching goal of getting humans to the red planet by 2030 will still be more or less on track. Much of that work falls under the Planetary Science Division, which will receive the highest budget it’s ever seen.

However, NASA’s earth sciences budget — which helps to fund research into climate change, weather models, and other extremely important ventures that could impact the future of mankind as a whole — will see a modest cut in Trump’s budget. The group will see a drop in funding from $1.9 billion in 2017 to $1.8 billion in 2018, which will mean some projects will need to be put on hold or cancelled entirely. NASA’s Office of Education, which provides grants and fellowships as well as university programs and funds outreach to get students interested in sciences, will also be cut under Trump’s bill.
Trump’s immediate plan for NASA doesn’t totally suck

The orange clown is talking the talk, but not walking the walk. In order to get to Mars, we are going to have to increase funding to NASA by a lot. And form partnerships with private rocket companies. It is going to have to be a whole nation effort. I do not see than done under the clown.
 
He has my support on this and the trade issues. The guy does have a few good points. ;)
Let's see, infrastructure, mission to Mars, trade policy bringing jobs back to America, do you think Hillary Clinton cared about any of those things?
If the orange clown starts a trade war, then we will lose jobs, and possibly see a Second Great Republican Depression. No money then for ambitious projects, here or in space.
 
For the time being sending a manned mission to Mars is a worthless endeavor. We need to go back to the Moon first.

Why? What's on the Moon?
The Moon is our gateway to the rest of the Solar system.

That's not a reason to go to the Moon. The Moon is a gateway possibly in the sense of a slingshot, getting onto the Moon doesn't actually do much for us.


Actually... some scientist believe that we need to put some kind of refueling point on the moon so that a mission can get to Mars faster.

To save on weight, a detour to the moon is the best route to Mars
 
For the time being sending a manned mission to Mars is a worthless endeavor. We need to go back to the Moon first.

Why? What's on the Moon?
Materials, and a much shallower gravity well.

Materials..... like what?

702px-Composition_of_lunar_soil.svg.png


Yeah, it has lots of oxygen in the soil, and silicon, and some iron and aluminum. How much would it cost to get these things? Probably a lot more than recycling the stuff we already use but don't need, that's for sure.

And what about lower gravity? You still need to get people from Earth to the Moon in order to then send them to Mars.

Is it easier to send people to the Moon then to Mars, or just send them to Mars in the first place?
 
For the time being sending a manned mission to Mars is a worthless endeavor. We need to go back to the Moon first.

Why? What's on the Moon?
Materials, and a much shallower gravity well.

Materials..... like what?

702px-Composition_of_lunar_soil.svg.png


Yeah, it has lots of oxygen in the soil, and silicon, and some iron and aluminum. How much would it cost to get these things? Probably a lot more than recycling the stuff we already use but don't need, that's for sure.

And what about lower gravity? You still need to get people from Earth to the Moon in order to then send them to Mars.

Is it easier to send people to the Moon then to Mars, or just send them to Mars in the first place?
If you are going for a single shot bragging mission, cheaper to go directly to Mars. If you are going for long term exploration, go to the moon first, and mine much of the necessary material there. And who knows what wonderous things we would find in the exploration of the moon as we went to Mars?
 
For the time being sending a manned mission to Mars is a worthless endeavor. We need to go back to the Moon first.

Why? What's on the Moon?
Materials, and a much shallower gravity well.

Materials..... like what?

702px-Composition_of_lunar_soil.svg.png


Yeah, it has lots of oxygen in the soil, and silicon, and some iron and aluminum. How much would it cost to get these things? Probably a lot more than recycling the stuff we already use but don't need, that's for sure.

And what about lower gravity? You still need to get people from Earth to the Moon in order to then send them to Mars.

Is it easier to send people to the Moon then to Mars, or just send them to Mars in the first place?
If you are going for a single shot bragging mission, cheaper to go directly to Mars. If you are going for long term exploration, go to the moon first, and mine much of the necessary material there. And who knows what wonderous things we would find in the exploration of the moon as we went to Mars?
The moon seems a no-brainer to me.
It's closer to test out all the systems necessary for getting to and settling on Mars.
 
For the time being sending a manned mission to Mars is a worthless endeavor. We need to go back to the Moon first.

Why? What's on the Moon?
Materials, and a much shallower gravity well.

Materials..... like what?

702px-Composition_of_lunar_soil.svg.png


Yeah, it has lots of oxygen in the soil, and silicon, and some iron and aluminum. How much would it cost to get these things? Probably a lot more than recycling the stuff we already use but don't need, that's for sure.

And what about lower gravity? You still need to get people from Earth to the Moon in order to then send them to Mars.

Is it easier to send people to the Moon then to Mars, or just send them to Mars in the first place?
If you are going for a single shot bragging mission, cheaper to go directly to Mars. If you are going for long term exploration, go to the moon first, and mine much of the necessary material there. And who knows what wonderous things we would find in the exploration of the moon as we went to Mars?

Might find Bugs Bunny, hey?

But it's about costs. To go to the Moon, then mine it there, then bring it back, how much does this cost? Also, do we not have the materials now?
 
For the time being sending a manned mission to Mars is a worthless endeavor. We need to go back to the Moon first.

Why? What's on the Moon?
Materials, and a much shallower gravity well.

Materials..... like what?

702px-Composition_of_lunar_soil.svg.png


Yeah, it has lots of oxygen in the soil, and silicon, and some iron and aluminum. How much would it cost to get these things? Probably a lot more than recycling the stuff we already use but don't need, that's for sure.

And what about lower gravity? You still need to get people from Earth to the Moon in order to then send them to Mars.

Is it easier to send people to the Moon then to Mars, or just send them to Mars in the first place?
If you are going for a single shot bragging mission, cheaper to go directly to Mars. If you are going for long term exploration, go to the moon first, and mine much of the necessary material there. And who knows what wonderous things we would find in the exploration of the moon as we went to Mars?
The moon seems a no-brainer to me.
It's closer to test out all the systems necessary for getting to and settling on Mars.

We've landed humans on the Moon, and yet when we send things to Mars they break before landing in almost all cases. Mars isn't the Moon. Testing things on the Moon doesn't mean they'll work on Mars.
 

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