Repost (with links) The DOGE scam is barking up the wrong tree

[Rumpole]

How is this the “democracy” these liberals pretend to value?

Musk is lying. But, of course, that didn't occur to you.

 

[westwall]

Given that DOGE is unconstitutional, your point is moot.

Tell that to obummer. As a constitutional expert he seemed to think it was fine.

 

[Rumpole]

yet more tl;dr fake news I stopped here: "They claimed an $8 billion cut from Immigration and Customs Enforcement, but oops, it was just $8 million." This is an intentional distortion

Not intentional misleading whatsoever.

DOGE claims $55 billion in government cuts so far -- but the figure is hard to verify

DOGE claims that so far its cuts have saved the public $55 billion in federal funds -- but that's not yet possible to verify based on the records that DOGE has disclosed.

abcnews.go.com

DOGE says it terminated 16 federal real estate contracts in Wisconsin. Where are they?

The cancelled leases served agencies such as the FDA, IRS and Social Security Administration.

www.jsonline.com

DOGE deletes its 'wall of receipts' after massive errors pointed out

The Department of Government Efficiency has removed its so-called "wall of receipts" detailing its cuts to the federal budget after its purported savings were found to be riddled with errors.Elon Musk's budget-cutting initiative has deleted all of the five biggest “savings” that had been posted...

www.rawstory.com

 

[JimH52]

I am opposed to DOGE. I do not work for the government. I am not on welfare. I have no student loans. I do believe that there is little waste, fraud, and abuse in government spending. There are programs reactionaries do not like. There are also blacks who owe their jobs to affirmative action, and who do not perform and behave adequately. They should be fired on a person by person basis.

I take it the chainsaw method is not your cup of tea? Musk and his kids have no idea what they doing.

 

[Delldude]

Given that DOGE is unconstitutional, your point is moot.

The best out of judicial is 'likely'.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Not intentional misleading whatsoever.

DOGE claims $55 billion in government cuts so far -- but the figure is hard to verify

DOGE claims that so far its cuts have saved the public $55 billion in federal funds -- but that's not yet possible to verify based on the records that DOGE has disclosed.

abcnews.go.com

DOGE says it terminated 16 federal real estate contracts in Wisconsin. Where are they?

The cancelled leases served agencies such as the FDA, IRS and Social Security Administration.

www.jsonline.com

DOGE deletes its 'wall of receipts' after massive errors pointed out

The Department of Government Efficiency has removed its so-called "wall of receipts" detailing its cuts to the federal budget after its purported savings were found to be riddled with errors.Elon Musk's budget-cutting initiative has deleted all of the five biggest “savings” that had been posted...

www.rawstory.com

DOGE has uncovered Billions in waste and fraud and literally TRILLION in payments to places and people unknown; that's the only topic of concern

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Given that DOGE is unconstitutional, your point is moot.

DOGE was created by Obama!! The Greatest Constitutional Scholar EVER!

You must be racist

 

[Hollie]

I take it the chainsaw method is not your cup of tea? Musk and his kids have no idea what they doing.

Actually, the Doge crew knows exactly what they’re doing. Leftoids are in a panic because the Doge crew knows what leftoids are doing.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Literally Trillions in untraceable payments, at least $4.7T and likely over $5T!

And the OP is concerned about account adjustments?

 

[el midgetron]

Musk is lying. But, of course, that didn't occur to you.

Any evidence to support your claim or are you just stuck in the delusion?

 

[Rumpole]

The best out of judicial is 'likely'.

I'd like to see what SC says about it. It mean, it's pretty clear, at least to me

So, to those of you who equate being against DOGE with defending government waste, note that that is an error of logic.

Two things:

1. DOGE, the claim of legitimacy of which is based on the bit about it being a renamed old established department (by Congress, thus 'legit') is a ruse. How so? Because it was given a new mission. That fact makes it a new department. And, by that fact, subjects it to Congressional approval, thus charter, funding, etc., as well as Senate's 'advice and consent' of it's appointed leader. Therefore, DOGE is both unlawfully established and likely to be ruled unconstitutional.

2. As for Elon Musk, it's appointed director, excuse me if I don’t trust or care to take the word of a billionaire (whose billions are courtesy of the US taxpayer) who is a partisan hack with extreme conflicts of interest (therefore is corrupt), no training in auditing, no grasp of its science or protocols, and no regard for the constitutional role of the IG apparatus and GAO -- established by Congress to do precisely what he’s redundantly attempting. DOGE is illegal, unconstitutional, and driven by someone so arrogant and full of himself (given his wealth) he thinks he’s untouchable and above learning or accountability.

 

[Rumpole]

DOGE has uncovered Billions in waste and fraud and literally TRILLION in payments to places and people unknown; that's the only topic of concern

They were caught lying out the gazoo. excuse me if I don’t trust or care to take the word of a billionaire (whose billions are courtesy of the US taxpayer) who is a partisan hack with extreme conflicts of interest, no training in auditing, no grasp of its science or protocols, and no regard for the constitutional role of the IG apparatus and GAO -- established by Congress to do precisely what he’s redundantly attempting. DOGE is illegal, unconstitutional, and driven by someone so arrogant and full of himself (given his wealth) he thinks he’s untouchable and above learning or accountability. DOGE is a vanity project created by two narcissists more interested in chest thumping look-at-me heroics. THe GAO and the IG system consists of trained non partisan professionals who have been doing these things quietly for years, they just don't brag about it

 

[Rumpole]

DOGE was created by Obama!! The Greatest Constitutional Scholar EVER!

You must be racist

It wasn't, sorry.

 

[Rumpole]

Any evidence to support your claim or are you just stuck in the delusion?

Here’s a summary of discrepancies and misleading claims attributed to Elon Musk and DOGE:

• Inflated Social Security recipient numbers: Musk claimed there were 394 million Social Security recipients in the U.S., despite the population being around 342 million. The actual number of recipients is closer to 69 million.
• Errors in savings calculations: DOGE’s "wall of receipts" included duplicate entries and exaggerated savings, such as listing an $8 million ICE contract as $8 billion.
• Misrepresentation of immigrant data: Musk conflated legal immigrants with undocumented ones, suggesting misuse of Social Security numbers, despite evidence showing undocumented immigrants contribute more to the system than they take.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/22/doge-data-errors-inconsistencies-00002576

Elon Musk, DOGE use access to Social Security data to elevate claims against migrants

Musk, DOGE say they're using access to Social Security data not just to probe claims of waste and fraud, but also to see if immigrants are abusing the system.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It wasn't, sorry.

Not much of a history buff, are you?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

They were caught lying out the gazoo. excuse me if I don’t trust or care to take the word of a billionaire (whose billions are courtesy of the US taxpayer) who is a partisan hack with extreme conflicts of interest, no training in auditing, no grasp of its science or protocols, and no regard for the constitutional role of the IG apparatus and GAO -- established by Congress to do precisely what he’s redundantly attempting. DOGE is illegal, unconstitutional, and driven by someone so arrogant and full of himself (given his wealth) he thinks he’s untouchable and above learning or accountability. DOGE is a vanity project created by two narcissists more interested in chest thumping look-at-me heroics. THe GAO and the IG system consists of trained non partisan professionals who have been doing these things quietly for years, they just don't brag about it

Odd that neither the GAO or IG caught $4.7 Trillion in untraceable payments, right?

What were they doing?

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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I’ll wait for the explanation

I’m sure it’s a good one

 

[JimH52]

Not much of a history buff, are you?

Sober up

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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Prior to DOGE government expenditures were set to “Maximum Grift”