Republicans Seek to Raise the Debt Ceiling by $4T, and extend $4.5T in Tax Cuts

[Zincwarrior]

So we should nothing instead, or worse, spend more?

No. The opposite. Cut spending. Lose the tax breaks. Cut the deficit as a percent of GDP.

 

[Mashmont]

Providing HIV medications to kids in Africa?

HIV is a preventable disease. That's where Christian moral teaching comes into play. Not zillions of US dollars.

 

[Marener]

HIV is a preventable disease. That's where Christian moral teaching comes into play. Not zillions of US dollars.

Tell that to the kids who were born with it.

 

[daveman]

Providing HIV medications to kids in Africa?

You were lied to. Unsurprisingly, you swallowed it whole.

No, 100% of South Africa’s HIV/Aids funding does not come from the United States – mostly funded by the South African government

But it's funny the way you ignore things like USAID funding terrorist groups or facilitating mass illegal immigration.

You can ignore them if you want, but that doesn't mean they're not there.

Oh, well, actually, they AREN'T there. They've been shut off. And that is a very good thing.

 

[daveman]

Republicans are incapable of sound, responsible governance.

Wassa matter, Jonesy? Mad because you gotta get a job now? Federal money dried up?

Too bad. Can you run a lawn mower and string trimmer? Prolly be some jobs opening up in your neighborhood.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

We are better protected by securing our borders and vetting those who wish to enter with our permission. Throwing around money is not protection nor is it reliable, it is merely idiotic wishful thinking.

It's a combination of all that.

 

[kyzr]

It's $1.5 trillion in spending cuts over 10 years, so $150 billion. That's just an outline, no idea where it'll actually come from. My guess is hammering away at safety net programs like Medicaid and SNAP.

At the DOGE hearing today lots of numbers were being thrown out for money saved by eliminating "waste, fraud, and abuse".
Elon thinks $1T a year is easily doable. We need $2T a year at the very least.

This House Bill was the easy part. The impossible part comes when they tell Trump no new spending, like on "Iron Dome" or defense, or rebuilding CA etc.

 

[Marener]

You were lied to. Unsurprisingly, you swallowed it whole.

No, 100% of South Africa’s HIV/Aids funding does not come from the United States – mostly funded by the South African government

But it's funny the way you ignore things like USAID funding terrorist groups or facilitating mass illegal immigration.

You can ignore them if you want, but that doesn't mean they're not there.

Oh, well, actually, they AREN'T there. They've been shut off. And that is a very good thing.

You can’t be so stupid as to think that the fact that we don’t fund “100%” of HIV treatment in Africa changed the fact that we do indeed fund HIV treatment in Africa.

As for your other links, they’re pretty weak sauce and extremely hyperbolic, but that’s expected coming from right wing sources with agendas.

 

[Marener]

At the DOGE hearing today lots of numbers were being thrown out for money saved by eliminating "waste, fraud, and abuse".

That’s what they do. Throw out numbers.

They don’t mean anything.

 

[daveman]

It's a combination of all that.

Does all this money make our border more secure?

 

[jknowgood]

This is temporary. Once the fraud is uncovered and stopped, people will be amazed at how much money won't be spent.

Everyone of our leaders that became millionares from inside training should have that money siezed and pay on the debt with it.

 

[daveman]

You can’t be so stupid as to think that the fact that we don’t fund “100%” of HIV treatment in Africa changed the fact that we do indeed fund HIV treatment in Africa.

As for your other links, they’re pretty weak sauce and extremely hyperbolic, but that’s expected coming from right wing sources with agendas.

That's a long-winded and self-important way of saying I proved my point and you have no rational counter.

 

[daveman]

That’s what they do. Throw out numbers.

They don’t mean anything.

"Hey, it's just other people's money. It don't mean anything."

 

[Marener]

That's a long-winded and self-important way of saying I proved my point and you have no rational counter.

CIS is a right wing anti-immigration group. Everyone should know this. They’re saying that charities helping people seeking asylum is somehow a crime. It’s idiotic.

The other link is from another right wing think tank that is pretty anti-Islam so has it out for anyone in Gaza. Their attempt to link charitable work in Gaza to terrorism is extremely weak.

 

[Marener]

"Hey, it's just other people's money. It don't mean anything."

No. They just “say shit”. Nothing Musk and Trump say should be taken seriously. Nothing they say necessarily has any foundation in reality.

 

[daveman]

CIS is a right wing anti-immigration group. Everyone should know this. They’re saying that charities helping people seeking asylum is somehow a crime. It’s idiotic.

The other link is from another right wing think tank that is pretty anti-Islam so has it out for anyone in Gaza. Their attempt to link charitable work in Gaza to terrorism is extremely weak.

You know how I can tell Catholic Relief Society is a leftist front?

Because it's an arm of the Catholic Church, and leftists aren't throwing tantrums, enraged that a church organization has been getting billions of dollars from the government.

Case closed.

 

[daveman]

No. They just “say shit”. Nothing Musk and Trump say should be taken seriously. Nothing they say necessarily has any foundation in reality.

Well, if you need reality ignored, it's always best to call a leftist.

 

[Marener]

You know how I can tell Catholic Relief Society is a leftist front?

Because it's an arm of the Catholic Church, and leftists aren't throwing tantrums, enraged that a church organization has been getting billions of dollars from the government.

Case closed.

You know, it’s really sad when someone like yourself lacks so much character you assume everyone else is as selfish as you are.

 

[Hollie]

Republicans are incapable of sound, responsible governance.

Oh pipe down. Doge is exposing the fraud and waste of the democrat clown show. Nothing at all responsible about wasting taxpayer money on tranny comic books.

 

[daveman]

You know, it’s really sad when someone like yourself lacks so much character you assume everyone else is as selfish as you are.

It's not me throwing a fit because my money's getting cut off, Skippy.

Meanwhile, explain how I'm wrong. Democrats hate the idea of even the 10 Commandments being posted in a government building.

Do you really expect me to believe they'd be okay with giving money to the Church unless the organization was furthering leftist goals...in this case, unchecked illegal immigration?

Make it make sense. I don't think you can.