Ron Paul among the most corrupt Congressmen.

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5IJQYY9dx4]Lawrence O'Donnell responds to AP's claim that Ron Paul fly's first class at tax payers cost - YouTube[/ame]

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So Ron Paul is trading on inside information, taking out loans, sheltering income off shore, applying donated reelection funds to support his mistress and feather his bed, strong arming individuals to support his campaign, using government aircraft for his and select friends own enjoyment?
 
Wait a minute... "Ron Paul among the most corrupt Congressmen"? Laughable BS!

$15,000 for travel expenses when the man returns over $100K A YEAR to the Treasury from 'office expenses' he hasn't spent?

Paul&#8217;s spokesman Jesse Benton denied the congressman was reimbursed multiple times for the same trips, saying "absolutely zero taxpayer funds were ever misused." Benton also said it was "possible that wholly inadvertent errors were made in a handful of instances.&#8221;

Written by Elizabeth Flock...
Washington Post writer Elizabeth Flock resigned last week after an editor's note ran above her blog post stating that a "significant ethical lapse" had occurred from failing to appropriately credit a source.
Washington Post Writer Elizabeth Flock Resigns After Editor's Note Claims 'Significant Ethical Lapse'

Sounds like a bunch of hooey to me...
 
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That piece does not in fact "debunk" the study I posted.

The only thing that Mr O'Donnell refutes is that Mr Paul was not re-imbursed for flights he didn't take, which is not what is stated in the allegations against him.

To wit:

February 2012, an investigation by the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call found Rep. Paul had repeatedly paid for travel costs using his official member representational allowance while also receiving reimbursements for the same expenses from political and nonprofit organizations supporting his activities.

For instance, on September 21, 2000, Rep. Paul used his American Express card to buy an American Airlines ticket for $230.50. House disbursement records show taxpayers paid for the ticket on October 13, 2000.

On October 26, 2000, however, Rep. Paul&#8217;s campaign committee reported a $230.50 disbursement to American Airlines, apparently to pay for the same ticket.

Rep. Paul bought two airline tickets in January 2005, again using his American Express card.

He purchased one from United Airlines at a cost of $1,076.78, and a second from Continental Airlines for $403.70.

House disbursement records show he was reimbursed for both tickets on February 11, 2005.

Nonetheless, on February 21, 2005, the Liberty Committee, a nonprofit group supporting libertarian causes that had close ties to Rep. Paul, issued a $1,480.48 check to American Express &#8211; an amount equal to the sum of the cost of the two tickets.

In fact the study I posted came out 9 months after Mr O'Donnell's story.

There is in fact no relation between the study posted and Mr O'Donnell's refutation at all, aside from the fact that they both had to do with airline travel.
 

That piece does not in fact "debunk" the study I posted.

The only thing that Mr O'Donnell refutes is that Mr Paul was not re-imbursed for flights he didn't take, which is not what is stated in the allegations against him.

To wit:

February 2012, an investigation by the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call found Rep. Paul had repeatedly paid for travel costs using his official member representational allowance while also receiving reimbursements for the same expenses from political and nonprofit organizations supporting his activities.

For instance, on September 21, 2000, Rep. Paul used his American Express card to buy an American Airlines ticket for $230.50. House disbursement records show taxpayers paid for the ticket on October 13, 2000.

On October 26, 2000, however, Rep. Paul’s campaign committee reported a $230.50 disbursement to American Airlines, apparently to pay for the same ticket.

Rep. Paul bought two airline tickets in January 2005, again using his American Express card.

He purchased one from United Airlines at a cost of $1,076.78, and a second from Continental Airlines for $403.70.

House disbursement records show he was reimbursed for both tickets on February 11, 2005.

Nonetheless, on February 21, 2005, the Liberty Committee, a nonprofit group supporting libertarian causes that had close ties to Rep. Paul, issued a $1,480.48 check to American Express – an amount equal to the sum of the cost of the two tickets.

In fact the study I posted came out 9 months after Mr O'Donnell's story.

There is in fact no relation between the study posted and Mr O'Donnell's refutation at all, aside from the fact that they both had to do with airline travel.

Yeah, except that the study is just rehashing the same nonsense that had already been debunked.
 
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Wait a minute... "Ron Paul among the most corrupt Congressmen"? Laughable BS!

$15,000 for travel expenses when the man returns over $100K A YEAR to the Treasury from 'office expenses' he hasn't spent?

Paul&#8217;s spokesman Jesse Benton denied the congressman was reimbursed multiple times for the same trips, saying "absolutely zero taxpayer funds were ever misused." Benton also said it was "possible that wholly inadvertent errors were made in a handful of instances.&#8221;

Written by Elizabeth Flock...
Washington Post writer Elizabeth Flock resigned last week after an editor's note ran above her blog post stating that a "significant ethical lapse" had occurred from failing to appropriately credit a source.
Washington Post Writer Elizabeth Flock Resigns After Editor's Note Claims 'Significant Ethical Lapse'

Sounds like a bunch of hooey to me...

Again, two separate instances.

In one, Mr Paul was accused of something he didn't do, which was to have congress pay him for trips he never took.

In the other instance, he was paid twice, once by a contributing organization, and once by the taxpayers, for the same trips.

Also, for the record:

"Denials from Ron Paul's staff" certainly do not constitute proof that the allegations are false.

And, finally:

The story about the resignation had to do with an entirely different topic. Something about a story about the discovery of life on Mars being claimed by NASA. Nothing to do with Ron Paul at all.

Unless Ron Paul lives on Mars...
 
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Yeah, except that the study is just rehashing the same nonsense that had already been debunked.

No, in fact, it does not.

Mr O'Donnell mentions nothing at all about "double-billing", nor anything about tickets being paid for by a private group on top of taxpayers paying for it.

They are two completely different sets of accusations.
 

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