Smoke and mirror

[eagle1462010]

I live in Russia. I do know better.

So Ivan. Was the USSR a good thing or bad?

 

[Zavulon]

So Ivan. Was the USSR a good thing or bad?

It depends. All political systems and states have their good sides and bad sides. But basically it was rather good thing, while it could be much better.

 

[eagle1462010]

It depends. All political systems and states have their good sides and bad sides. But basically it was rather good thing, while it could be much better.

The Berlin Wall. Occupation of all the East. Chewed up and spit on Poland.

Stalin was almost as bad as Hitler. Thats why Europe Hates you so much. Especially Poland. They wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire.

Now they mad at us because we cant afford endless wars anymore.

Oh well. Doesnt mean we like you Ivan

 

[Zavulon]

The Berlin Wall. Occupation of all the East. Chewed up and spit on Poland.

It was good, not bad.

Stalin was almost as bad as Hitler. Thats why Europe Hates you so much. Especially Poland. They wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire.

Europe hates us since, at least, Northern Crusades. It is their natural condition. Sun is hot, water is wet, our dear European neighbours are hateful genocidal aggressors.
Hitler was just one of the typical European leaders, not worse than, say, Churchill.

Now they mad at us because we cant afford endless wars anymore.

Oh well. Doesnt mean we like you Ivan

No problem. I'm not a piece of gold to be beloved by everyone, Billy.

 

[eagle1462010]

It was good, not bad.

Europe hates us since, at least, Northern Crusades. It is their natural condition. Sun is hot, water is wet, our dear European neighbours are hateful genocidal aggressors.
Hitler was just one of the typical European leaders, not worse than, say, Churchill.

No problem. I'm not a piece of gold to be beloved by everyone, Billy.

Well we will not be sending each other Xmas cards huh??

Or are you a Godless Heathen?

 

[Zavulon]

Well we will not be sending each other Xmas cards huh??

Or are you a Godless Heathen?

I'm an atheist but I do accept all types of cards with money attached.

 

[eagle1462010]

I'm an atheist but I do accept all types of cards with money attached.

Figured as much. Athiest love death.

Have you sacrificed a chicken to your pagan gods today?

 

[Zavulon]

Figured as much. Athiest love death.

Everyone love death. Some people just afraid of its inevitability.

Have you sacrificed a chicken to your pagan gods today?

No. Atheists don't believe in all "gods", including pagan ones.

 

[BackAgain]

I live in Russia. I do know better.

I know. And that’s largely why you don’t know better.

 

[Zavulon]

I know. And that’s largely why you don’t know better.

You should understand that you looks extremely foolish, talking about things you have not even a slightest understanding, and talking obvious nonsense.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I live in Russia. I do know better.

Your view is twisted by a lack of understanding of how the world operates.

 

[Zavulon]

Your view is twisted by a lack of understanding of how the world operates.

Of course I know. There is only one law in this Taiga after 1999. "When the bear is hungry - he eats".

 

[BackAgain]

You should understand that you looks extremely foolish, talking about things you have not even a slightest understanding, and talking obvious nonsense.

So, now stop doing it. Easy.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Until he is shot.

 

[Zavulon]

So, now stop doing it. Easy.

Did I ever try explain you the rules of baseball?

 

[Zavulon]

Until he is shot.

Not that case. Right now, the bear is the strongest carnivore in the Taiga.

 

[ErikViking]

At the current rate of Conquest, Putin is scheduled to reconstitute the USSR by the year 2705!

That is because they haven’t (yet) been met with appeasement. As soon that happens, speed is going to pick up.

And I can respect that US isn’t interested in the situation. Unwilling to spend money. After all, it’s mainly a European issue and EU has a great responsibility in not being able to fulfil its commitments. This is a lesson that has to be learnt very quickly. Completely without resentment: EU can’t rely on US.

But:
I don’t respect the way it’s done. Those hasty decisions thrown out in the context of ”making deals” and appeasing voters are low class. US should have set a date, making its intentions clear: From this date we will exit the conflict, completely. No more money, no more intelligence, no more using of US technology or US made weapons. That would have given Ukraine, and EU, an easier task to organise.

As it’s playing out now it’s actually just helping Russia.

There is the game show attitude.

 

[Zavulon]

That is because they haven’t (yet) been met with appeasement. As soon that happens, speed is going to pick up.

And I can respect that US isn’t interested in the situation. Unwilling to spend money. After all, it’s mainly a European issue and EU has a great responsibility in not being able to fulfil its commitments. This is a lesson that has to be learnt very quickly. Completely without resentment: EU can’t rely on US.

But:
I don’t respect the way it’s done. Those hasty decisions thrown out in the context of ”making deals” and appeasing voters are low class. US should have set a date, making its intentions clear: From this date we will exit the conflict, completely. No more money, no more intelligence, no more using of US technology or US made weapons. That would have given Ukraine, and EU, an easier task to organise.

As it’s playing out now it’s actually just helping Russia.

There is the game show attitude.

Without US technologies, especially without Starlink, AFU resistance would have been collapsed in the matter of weeks.

 

[ErikViking]

Without US technologies, especially without Starlink, AFU resistance would have been collapsed in the matter of weeks.

There will be grim times ahead, no doubt.

But, here we are, me telling the truth and you objecting it - until you couldn’t brace yourself and sort of ended up confirming what I said.

We must try to stop your expansion or face that Iron curtain and the glooming nuclear threat behind it.

 

[Zavulon]

There will be grim times ahead, no doubt.

In the grim darkness of the nearest future there is only war.

But, here we are, me telling the truth and you objecting it - until you couldn’t brace yourself and sort of ended up confirming what I said.

What "truth" did you tell?

We must try to stop your expansion or face that Iron curtain and the glooming nuclear threat behind it.

No. You must accept the new order. The Order of Undivided Safety and Equal Human rights. Thats all you need to live in safety.