Tell me what the following phrases mean:

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In a dependant and enslaved country.
1) "Congress shall make no Law."

2) "Shall not be infringed."

3) "No Solider shall."

4) "No Warrant shall issue."

5) "No person shall be held."

6) "Nor shall any person be subject."

7) "In all criminal prosecutions."

8) "Where the value exceeds 20 dollars."

9) "no fact tried buy a Jury shall be otherwise re-examined."

10) "Cruel and unusual punishment shall not be inflicted."

11) "The powers not delegated to the federal government."

12) "The enumeration of certain rights in the Constitution."
 
Come on, there's no "Party" position on any of those naked statements, do not fear thinking for yourself.

Liberals take heed:

1) First Amendment (Free Speech)

2) Second Amendment (Right to bear arms)

3) Third Amendment (Quartering Soldiers in Peacetime)

4) Fourth Amendment (Search and Seizure)

5) Fifth Amendment (Self incrimination)

6) Fifth Amendment (Double jeopardy)

7) Sixth Amendment (Right to speedy trial)

8) Seventh Amendment (Right to jury trial)

9) Seventh Amendment (Re-examination clause)

10) Eighth Amendment (Cruel and unusual punishment)

11) Tenth Amendment (Reserved powers)

12) Ninth Amendment (Enumeration of Rights Clause)
 
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Come on, there's no "Party" position on any of those naked statements, do not fear thinking for yourself.

Liberals take heed:

1) First Amendment (Free Speech)

2) Second Amendment (Right to bear arms)

3) Third Amendment (Quartering Soldiers in Peacetime)

4) Fourth Amendment (Search and Seizure)

5) Fifth Amendment (Self incrimination)

6) Fifth Amendment (Double jeopardy)

7) Sixth Amendment (Right to speedy trial)

8) Seventh Amendment (Right to jury trial)

9) Seventh Amendment (Re-examination clause)

10) Eighth Amendment (Cruel and unusual punishment)

11) Tenth Amendment (Reserved powers)

12) Ninth Amendment (Enumeration of Rights Clause)

This thread does not discuss any thing which follows after those general statements.

I could just have easily asked:

1) Rabbits can not be purchased

2) A woman's right to sexual consent shall not be infringed.

3) No Bus driver shall...

etc.
 
Forget it son, America has a "New and Approved" Bill of Rights.

Just look at these guys, they're waiting for me to answer the questions for them, so they can nitpick and derail the thread, they don't dare answer first, they never answer first, in fact they never answer at all in any thread, they just derail.

Come on, grow a pair of balls, answer it.
 
Wow, you'd think this was rocket science!


First things first....

you tell us what these means:

The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court

The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution



  • Incitement
  • False statements of fact
  • Obscenity
  • Child pornography
  • Fighting words and offensive speech
  • Threats
  • Speech owned by others
  • Commercial speech
  • Consent
  • Plain view
  • Open fields
  • Curtilage
  • Exigent circumstance
  • Motor vehicle
  • Searches incident to a lawful arrest
  • Border search exception

Since you lack a basic understanding of constitutional law and supreme court decisions and precedent, there is no point in discussing the constitution with you.
 
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Wow, you'd think this was rocket science!


First things first....

you tell us what these means:

The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court

The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution



  • Incitement
  • False statements of fact
  • Obscenity
  • Child pornography
  • Fighting words and offensive speech
  • Threats
  • Speech owned by others
  • Commercial speech
  • Consent
  • Plain view
  • Open fields
  • Curtilage
  • Exigent circumstance
  • Motor vehicle
  • Searches incident to a lawful arrest
  • Border search exception

Since you lack a basic understanding of constitutional law and supreme court decisions and precedent, there is no point in discussing the constitution with you.

Only the Jury is empowered by the Constitution to determine whether or not those laws are constitutional, and whether or not they are being applied fairly. After they've made that determination, then they can make a decision based on the facts to render their verdict. This is made explicit in the Fifth, Sixth and Seventh Amendments, and reinforced by the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, which retained and reserved the right of the people to be the Arbitrators of the Constitution through due process via the Jury or any other impartial tribunal that the States or Counties/Towns may create.

However, apparently you rejoice in police brutality, so there's no point in having a discussion on the Constitution that was founded under the theory of Popular Sovereignty, as declared in the Ninth Amendment.
 
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The Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals stated in Gibson v. Matthews, 926 F.2d 532, 537 (6th Cir. 1991) that the Ninth Amendment was intended to vitiate the maxim of expressio unius est exclusio alterius according to which the express mention of one thing excludes all others:
[T]he ninth amendment does not confer substantive rights in addition to those conferred by other portions of our governing law. The ninth amendment was added to the Bill of Rights to ensure that the maxim expressio unius est exclusio alterius would not be used at a later time to deny fundamental rights merely because they were not specifically enumerated in the Constitution.

Justice Antonin Scalia has expressed the view, in the dissenting opinion of Troxel v. Granville 530 U.S. 57 (2000), that:
The Declaration of Independence...is not a legal prescription conferring powers upon the courts; and the Constitution’s refusal to 'deny or disparage' other rights is far removed from affirming any one of them, and even farther removed from authorizing judges to identify what they might be, and to enforce the judges’ list against laws duly enacted by the people.
 
We all know that even when Constitutional amendments were written the exact same way, they mean different things based upon whether they agree with the liberal ideology. Liberals know what they mean, they just cherry pick the amendments that suit them and attack the ones that do not.
 
Sorry Hazel, the Constitution doesn't grant the American people Rights, it merely reaffirms the Rights Americans already had, and it isn't subject to judicial review. What part of "shall not be infringed" are you having so much trouble with?
 
Come on, there's no "Party" position on any of those naked statements, do not fear thinking for yourself.


Ok...here ya go...all those phrases mean that we had some seriously controlling forefathers in our history!
 
Wow, you'd think this was rocket science!


First things first....

you tell us what these means:

The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court

The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution



  • Incitement
  • False statements of fact
  • Obscenity
  • Child pornography
  • Fighting words and offensive speech
  • Threats
  • Speech owned by others
  • Commercial speech
  • Consent
  • Plain view
  • Open fields
  • Curtilage
  • Exigent circumstance
  • Motor vehicle
  • Searches incident to a lawful arrest
  • Border search exception

Since you lack a basic understanding of constitutional law and supreme court decisions and precedent, there is no point in discussing the constitution with you.

As defined by who, Hazlnut? Government by the consent of the Governed. Some us pray to something greater than government. Some of us, knowing human nature, support due process, rule of law, and checks and balances. Ever wonder why Hamilton argued during the time of the Constitutional Convention that the Court would be the weakest of the three Federal Branches? Disingenuous at best. We are far from perfect, Hazlnut, why on earth would you suppose Government to be any different?
 

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