The Case for Killing Qassim Suleimani. The strike was justified and legally sound.

[Doc7505]

The Case for Killing Qassim Suleimani. The strike was justified and legally sound.​

Opinion | The Case for Killing Qassim Suleimani - The New York Times
January 10, 2020 ~ By Tom Cotton
Last week, our military and intelligence services brought justice to Qassim Suleimani, Iran’s terror mastermind. President Trump ordered General Suleimani’s killing after months of attacks on Americans by Iran’s proxy forces in Iraq. These attacks culminated in a rocket strike that killed an American and wounded others, then the attempted storming of our embassy in Baghdad. The first attack crossed the red line drawn by the president last summer — that if Iran harmed an American, it would face severe consequences. The president meant what he said, as Mr. Suleimani learned the hard way. Mr. Suleimani’s killing was justified, legal and strategically sound. But the president’s critics swarmed as usual. After the embassy attack, a Democratic senator declared that the president had “rendered America impotent.” Some Democrats then pivoted after the Suleimani strike, calling him “reckless” and “dangerous.” Those are the words of Senator Elizabeth Warren, who also described Mr. Suleimani — the leader of a State Department-designated Foreign Terrorist Organization plotting to kill American troops — as a “senior foreign military official.” Senator Bernie Sanders likened America’s killing of a terrorist on the battlefield to Vladimir Putin’s assassination of Russian political dissidents.
Some Democrats seem to feel a strange regret for the killing of a monster who specialized in killing Americans. The linguist his proxies killed on Dec. 27, Nawres Hamid, was merely his last victim out of more than 600 in Iraq since 2003. His forces have instigated attacks against our troops in Afghanistan. He plotted a (foiled) bombing in Washington, D.C., and attempted attacks on the soil of our European allies. He armed the terrorist group Hezbollah in Lebanon with rockets to pummel the Jewish state of Israel.


Comment:
The underlying reason for this article is because the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrat Left in this country have sold out America and the people that elected them and are more interested in getting Donald Trump, or any Republican, rather than rejoicing in doing good by ridding the world of this evil.
We all know, the theme of PMS/DSA Democrats has been to sympathize with Iran rather than to rejoice with America. The Democrat Party is truly despicable.
I was completely surprised that the NY Times would publish this article. Surely it will soon be pulled.
The killing of Qassim Suleimani, Iran’s terror mastermind, was both necessary and an act for peace not a precursor to conflict with Iran. That he continued to kill and destroy for this length of time was an abomination. The efficiency and swiftness of the decision and tactics are laudable as it occurred in Iraq where Suleimani was set to inflict more death and mayhem. Removing this individual provides a better opportunity for negotiating arms and trade agreements as Iran now comprehends the intentions and tolerance of the U.S.
Although Congress has had twisted underwear about the fact that Trump did not notify them of the attempt and successful killing of Suleimani. It appears that Trump was and is correct that had he notified the "gang of eight", Suleimani would have been made aware of the drone attack by Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats.
Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi Mark Warner and Chuck Schumer... My money would be on Schiff that would have leaked the coming drone attack to the media and Suleimani...

Uh NO

The Power To Declare War Vests With The Congress.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the U.S. Constitution, sometimes referred to as the War Powers Clause, vests in the Congress the power to declare war, in the following wording: ... To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water ..

Fuck Wad 45 does not the power under the Constitution to commit such an act without Congressional Approval. Which he did not have.

Did Barry Hussein have the power when he ordered 543 drone strikes without congressional approval?

as a nato member, YES.

On 19 March 2011, a multi-state NATO-led coalition began a military intervention in Libya, ostensibly to implement United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973.

It is now 2019. There was No Congressional Approval. No U.N. Approval. The lying Orange Shit Gibbon violated Section I Section VIII Clause XI of the U.S. Constituti

It is now 2019. There was No Congressional Approval. No U.N. Approval. The lying Orange Shit Gibbon violated Section I Section VIII Clause XI of the U.S. Constituti


exactly.well said. that is totaly false,It was UNSOUND and UNJUSTIFIED.

The OP is posting a false narrative,could not be any further from the truth,

The NY TIMES as the source? REALLY,SERIOUSLY? thats like taking Bill "I NEVER HAD SEX WITH THIS WOMAN? CLINTONS word at face value if you go to mcdonalds with him and leave your hamburger in the car with him and come back and it is not there and you ask him what happend to it and he replies_ I dont know,i did not eat it and then you believe him at his word.him.

Trump same as Obozo and Bush before him, is a murderer,here is the REAL story.

Lies, the Bethlehem Doctrine, and the Illegal Murder of Soleimani 636
Lies, the Bethlehem Doctrine, and the Illegal Murder of Soleimani - Craig Murray

patriot RINO Ron Paul tells the truth here as well that nobody has been able to counter.

Patriot american Ron Paul Does not trust Trump.

~~~~~~
I wonder did Bubba Clinton get approval from Congress to lob those missiles into the Sudan, Afghanistan and Iraq? So let's see... Clinton and Obama never needed Congressional approval to strike any country the cared to bomb, but suddenly Trump is the president that has the least number of attacks and is required to submit requests to Congress..... Hypocrisy much?

 

[JusticeHammer]

Rotten Cotton is a pathological liar just like Tramp!

Says a lib who supports pathological liars. Otherwise you have no credibility.

I don't support the pathological liars in the Tramp administration like you do!

You support the pathological lying libs like Obama and Hillary. Trump is still a better POTUS.

 

[MaryL]

Iran lied about shooting down the Ukrainian airliner...they bulldozed the sight even. America admitted shooting down Iran Air flight 655. Iran? The shoe is on the other foot now.....

 

[Norman]

The Case for Killing Qassim Suleimani. The strike was justified and legally sound.​

Opinion | The Case for Killing Qassim Suleimani - The New York Times
January 10, 2020 ~ By Tom Cotton
Last week, our military and intelligence services brought justice to Qassim Suleimani, Iran’s terror mastermind. President Trump ordered General Suleimani’s killing after months of attacks on Americans by Iran’s proxy forces in Iraq. These attacks culminated in a rocket strike that killed an American and wounded others, then the attempted storming of our embassy in Baghdad. The first attack crossed the red line drawn by the president last summer — that if Iran harmed an American, it would face severe consequences. The president meant what he said, as Mr. Suleimani learned the hard way. Mr. Suleimani’s killing was justified, legal and strategically sound. But the president’s critics swarmed as usual. After the embassy attack, a Democratic senator declared that the president had “rendered America impotent.” Some Democrats then pivoted after the Suleimani strike, calling him “reckless” and “dangerous.” Those are the words of Senator Elizabeth Warren, who also described Mr. Suleimani — the leader of a State Department-designated Foreign Terrorist Organization plotting to kill American troops — as a “senior foreign military official.” Senator Bernie Sanders likened America’s killing of a terrorist on the battlefield to Vladimir Putin’s assassination of Russian political dissidents.
Some Democrats seem to feel a strange regret for the killing of a monster who specialized in killing Americans. The linguist his proxies killed on Dec. 27, Nawres Hamid, was merely his last victim out of more than 600 in Iraq since 2003. His forces have instigated attacks against our troops in Afghanistan. He plotted a (foiled) bombing in Washington, D.C., and attempted attacks on the soil of our European allies. He armed the terrorist group Hezbollah in Lebanon with rockets to pummel the Jewish state of Israel.


Comment:
The underlying reason for this article is because the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrat Left in this country have sold out America and the people that elected them and are more interested in getting Donald Trump, or any Republican, rather than rejoicing in doing good by ridding the world of this evil.
We all know, the theme of PMS/DSA Democrats has been to sympathize with Iran rather than to rejoice with America. The Democrat Party is truly despicable.
I was completely surprised that the NY Times would publish this article. Surely it will soon be pulled.
The killing of Qassim Suleimani, Iran’s terror mastermind, was both necessary and an act for peace not a precursor to conflict with Iran. That he continued to kill and destroy for this length of time was an abomination. The efficiency and swiftness of the decision and tactics are laudable as it occurred in Iraq where Suleimani was set to inflict more death and mayhem. Removing this individual provides a better opportunity for negotiating arms and trade agreements as Iran now comprehends the intentions and tolerance of the U.S.
Although Congress has had twisted underwear about the fact that Trump did not notify them of the attempt and successful killing of Suleimani. It appears that Trump was and is correct that had he notified the "gang of eight", Suleimani would have been made aware of the drone attack by Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats.
Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi Mark Warner and Chuck Schumer... My money would be on Schiff that would have leaked the coming drone attack to the media and Suleimani...

The strike was 100% genius.

More Iranians died in the stampedes during the funeral than did Americans. Which let us recall again, no American lives were claimed.

Because of Trump travel ban, these people are not in our country. Trump has prevailed.

 

[edthecynic]

Rotten Cotton is a pathological liar just like Tramp!

Another pathological liar rears their hateful head.

“Liar rears THEIR”?

Is English your third language?

So your head is not your own. No surprise there!

 

[edthecynic]

Rotten Cotton is a pathological liar just like Tramp!

The name calling the hate from the left is crazy

Tramp and the Right never do any name calling.
Sarcasm intended!

Of course lying scum Russia Limpboy claims his insults are an act of compassion, proving the Right can rationalize and hateful insult.

Why attack Tom
Cotton!? He’s a good guy

Cotton is rotten.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Uh NO

The Power To Declare War Vests With The Congress.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the U.S. Constitution, sometimes referred to as the War Powers Clause, vests in the Congress the power to declare war, in the following wording: ... To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water ..

Fuck Wad 45 does not the power under the Constitution to commit such an act without Congressional Approval. Which he did not have.

Did Barry Hussein have the power when he ordered 543 drone strikes without congressional approval?

as a nato member, YES.

On 19 March 2011, a multi-state NATO-led coalition began a military intervention in Libya, ostensibly to implement United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973.

It is now 2019. There was No Congressional Approval. No U.N. Approval. The lying Orange Shit Gibbon violated Section I Section VIII Clause XI of the U.S. Constituti

It is now 2019. There was No Congressional Approval. No U.N. Approval. The lying Orange Shit Gibbon violated Section I Section VIII Clause XI of the U.S. Constituti


exactly.well said. that is totaly false,It was UNSOUND and UNJUSTIFIED.

The OP is posting a false narrative,could not be any further from the truth,

The NY TIMES as the source? REALLY,SERIOUSLY? thats like taking Bill "I NEVER HAD SEX WITH THIS WOMAN? CLINTONS word at face value if you go to mcdonalds with him and leave your hamburger in the car with him and come back and it is not there and you ask him what happend to it and he replies_ I dont know,i did not eat it and then you believe him at his word.him.

Trump same as Obozo and Bush before him, is a murderer,here is the REAL story.

Lies, the Bethlehem Doctrine, and the Illegal Murder of Soleimani 636
Lies, the Bethlehem Doctrine, and the Illegal Murder of Soleimani - Craig Murray

patriot RINO Ron Paul tells the truth here as well that nobody has been able to counter.

Patriot american Ron Paul Does not trust Trump.

~~~~~~
I wonder did Bubba Clinton get approval from Congress to lob those missiles into the Sudan, Afghanistan and Iraq? So let's see... Clinton and Obama never needed Congressional approval to strike any country the cared to bomb, but suddenly Trump is the president that has the least number of attacks and is required to submit requests to Congress..... Hypocrisy much?

wow THATS your lame rebuttal? NONE of that refuted my evidence.He is a fucking murderer.

wow glad your not my lawyer,you would lose every case for me the way you evade evidence and change the subject. No hypocrisy is you ignoring the evidence changing the subject. this rant of yours about clinton and Obama and nothing about Bush indicates you are a republican.

pretty lame after being checkmated by me that Trump is a murderer that you change the subject talking about some democrat presidents which again.indicates you are a republican since you did not say a word about the corruption of Bush.

Thats very lame as well talking about the corruption of Obama and clinton as well while evading the evidence of trumps corruption. you act like I am a democrat which could not be ANY further from the truth. the people that know me the best know i hate BOTH parties and i hate clinton and Obama even more so than trump. where you came up with that Idea i think Obama and Clinton dont belong in prison same as trump and say bullshit like i am being a hypocritre is beyond me,if anybody is,that is YOU who is being the hypocrite.

so what is he only did it one time,a murderer is a fucking murderer,jesus fucking christ you trump apologists are as looney as the obama worshippers are.

It was totally immoral and outside international law to murder the general.

If he was such a bad guy (a poster here referred to him as another Hitler, yet Americans never heard of him before this), arrest him at the airport and send him to The Hague for trial. That would have been the moral thing to do.

A state Arbitrarily murdering someone is immoral.


dude wtf ARE YOU BABBLING ABOUT CLINTON AND OBAMA AND THEIR CRIMES FOR?

ESPECIALLY since everybody that knows me knows i have ALWAYS said they are both evil and belong in prison same as trump does and i have ALWAYS said both parties are corrupt,get your facts straight before putting words in my mouth,jesus christ and here all this time i thought you were one of the more sensible posters that this forum.

i have said many times in the past as well that the last decent president america had thtat did not want war,was carter.last i checked that INCLUDED clinton and Obama.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Rotten Cotton is a pathological liar just like Tramp!

Says a lib who supports pathological liars. Otherwise you have no credibility.

I don't support the pathological liars in the Tramp administration like you do!

You support the pathological lying libs like Obama and Hillary. Trump is still a better POTUS.

He is less evil of the three but evil is evil.

 

[The Original Tree]

He was with Muhandis & That was enough alone to take him out.

 

[BluesLegend]

He was with Muhandis & That was enough alone to take him out.

Can you expand on that please? Thanks.

 

[Dick Foster]

The Case for Killing Qassim Suleimani. The strike was justified and legally sound.​

Opinion | The Case for Killing Qassim Suleimani - The New York Times
January 10, 2020 ~ By Tom Cotton
Last week, our military and intelligence services brought justice to Qassim Suleimani, Iran’s terror mastermind. President Trump ordered General Suleimani’s killing after months of attacks on Americans by Iran’s proxy forces in Iraq. These attacks culminated in a rocket strike that killed an American and wounded others, then the attempted storming of our embassy in Baghdad. The first attack crossed the red line drawn by the president last summer — that if Iran harmed an American, it would face severe consequences. The president meant what he said, as Mr. Suleimani learned the hard way. Mr. Suleimani’s killing was justified, legal and strategically sound. But the president’s critics swarmed as usual. After the embassy attack, a Democratic senator declared that the president had “rendered America impotent.” Some Democrats then pivoted after the Suleimani strike, calling him “reckless” and “dangerous.” Those are the words of Senator Elizabeth Warren, who also described Mr. Suleimani — the leader of a State Department-designated Foreign Terrorist Organization plotting to kill American troops — as a “senior foreign military official.” Senator Bernie Sanders likened America’s killing of a terrorist on the battlefield to Vladimir Putin’s assassination of Russian political dissidents.
Some Democrats seem to feel a strange regret for the killing of a monster who specialized in killing Americans. The linguist his proxies killed on Dec. 27, Nawres Hamid, was merely his last victim out of more than 600 in Iraq since 2003. His forces have instigated attacks against our troops in Afghanistan. He plotted a (foiled) bombing in Washington, D.C., and attempted attacks on the soil of our European allies. He armed the terrorist group Hezbollah in Lebanon with rockets to pummel the Jewish state of Israel.


Comment:
The underlying reason for this article is because the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrat Left in this country have sold out America and the people that elected them and are more interested in getting Donald Trump, or any Republican, rather than rejoicing in doing good by ridding the world of this evil.
We all know, the theme of PMS/DSA Democrats has been to sympathize with Iran rather than to rejoice with America. The Democrat Party is truly despicable.
I was completely surprised that the NY Times would publish this article. Surely it will soon be pulled.
The killing of Qassim Suleimani, Iran’s terror mastermind, was both necessary and an act for peace not a precursor to conflict with Iran. That he continued to kill and destroy for this length of time was an abomination. The efficiency and swiftness of the decision and tactics are laudable as it occurred in Iraq where Suleimani was set to inflict more death and mayhem. Removing this individual provides a better opportunity for negotiating arms and trade agreements as Iran now comprehends the intentions and tolerance of the U.S.
Although Congress has had twisted underwear about the fact that Trump did not notify them of the attempt and successful killing of Suleimani. It appears that Trump was and is correct that had he notified the "gang of eight", Suleimani would have been made aware of the drone attack by Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats.
Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi Mark Warner and Chuck Schumer... My money would be on Schiff that would have leaked the coming drone attack to the media and Suleimani...

Uh NO

The Power To Declare War Vests With The Congress.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the U.S. Constitution, sometimes referred to as the War Powers Clause, vests in the Congress the power to declare war, in the following wording: ... To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water ..

Fuck Wad 45 does not the power under the Constitution to commit such an act without Congressional Approval. Which he did not have.

You're simply full of pure shit. While it was indeed a military action it was not an act of war but him carrying out his presidential responsibility to protect America and its citizens. This chicken shit, lilly livered Congress hasn't had the balls or the guts to declare war since WWII. Everything that has gone on since has been done under constitutional executive authority. This includes Korea, Vietnam and every thing else.
Get a clue and study up before you open your mouth and show everyone what a clueless dumbass you are next time.

 

[skews13]

The Case for Killing Qassim Suleimani. The strike was justified and legally sound.​

Opinion | The Case for Killing Qassim Suleimani - The New York Times
January 10, 2020 ~ By Tom Cotton
Last week, our military and intelligence services brought justice to Qassim Suleimani, Iran’s terror mastermind. President Trump ordered General Suleimani’s killing after months of attacks on Americans by Iran’s proxy forces in Iraq. These attacks culminated in a rocket strike that killed an American and wounded others, then the attempted storming of our embassy in Baghdad. The first attack crossed the red line drawn by the president last summer — that if Iran harmed an American, it would face severe consequences. The president meant what he said, as Mr. Suleimani learned the hard way. Mr. Suleimani’s killing was justified, legal and strategically sound. But the president’s critics swarmed as usual. After the embassy attack, a Democratic senator declared that the president had “rendered America impotent.” Some Democrats then pivoted after the Suleimani strike, calling him “reckless” and “dangerous.” Those are the words of Senator Elizabeth Warren, who also described Mr. Suleimani — the leader of a State Department-designated Foreign Terrorist Organization plotting to kill American troops — as a “senior foreign military official.” Senator Bernie Sanders likened America’s killing of a terrorist on the battlefield to Vladimir Putin’s assassination of Russian political dissidents.
Some Democrats seem to feel a strange regret for the killing of a monster who specialized in killing Americans. The linguist his proxies killed on Dec. 27, Nawres Hamid, was merely his last victim out of more than 600 in Iraq since 2003. His forces have instigated attacks against our troops in Afghanistan. He plotted a (foiled) bombing in Washington, D.C., and attempted attacks on the soil of our European allies. He armed the terrorist group Hezbollah in Lebanon with rockets to pummel the Jewish state of Israel.


Comment:
The underlying reason for this article is because the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrat Left in this country have sold out America and the people that elected them and are more interested in getting Donald Trump, or any Republican, rather than rejoicing in doing good by ridding the world of this evil.
We all know, the theme of PMS/DSA Democrats has been to sympathize with Iran rather than to rejoice with America. The Democrat Party is truly despicable.
I was completely surprised that the NY Times would publish this article. Surely it will soon be pulled.
The killing of Qassim Suleimani, Iran’s terror mastermind, was both necessary and an act for peace not a precursor to conflict with Iran. That he continued to kill and destroy for this length of time was an abomination. The efficiency and swiftness of the decision and tactics are laudable as it occurred in Iraq where Suleimani was set to inflict more death and mayhem. Removing this individual provides a better opportunity for negotiating arms and trade agreements as Iran now comprehends the intentions and tolerance of the U.S.
Although Congress has had twisted underwear about the fact that Trump did not notify them of the attempt and successful killing of Suleimani. It appears that Trump was and is correct that had he notified the "gang of eight", Suleimani would have been made aware of the drone attack by Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats.
Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi Mark Warner and Chuck Schumer... My money would be on Schiff that would have leaked the coming drone attack to the media and Suleimani...

 

[Nostra]

Rotten Cotton is a pathological liar just like Tramp!

Another pathological liar rears their hateful head.

“Liar rears THEIR”?

Is English your third language?

So your head is not your own. No surprise there!

Get back to me when you are able to form a somewhat coherent thought.

 

[Zorro!]

I HAD BEEN ASSURED THAT KILLING SULEIMANI WOULD ONLY LEAD TO MORE TERROR: Iran’s Revolutionary guards wrestle with new reality after killing of their chief military strategist.

Analysts and officials in the region say the Revolutionary Guards in fact now find themselves on the back foot, a notable change after successfully projecting their power in the Middle East over recent years.​

“The assassination of Qasem Soleimani and the downing of the airliner were both shocks to the Revolutionary Guard,” said Saeid Golkar, an expert on Iran’s security forces and professor of political science at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga. “Soleimani was a big loss for the Islamic Republic, and the downing of the airliner, it blew the Guard’s entire credibility.”​

The IRGC, which was established to protect the Islamic Republic, “has to rebrand and rebuild its reputation, which takes time, especially with a population that has grown critical of the Islamic Republic,” Golkar said. “And now the strategy is not to go to war with the United States but to test its limits step-by-step – and not to overreach.”​

That challenge, in part, will fall to Brig. Gen. Ismail Qaani, who has replaced Soleimani as commander of the IRGC’s elite Quds Force. He will have to preserve Iran’s regional influence and nurture the proxy groups and militias developed by his predecessor – but without provoking a forceful U.S. reaction.​

Qaani should probably never sleep in the same bed twice.

 

[bravoactual]

As over 30-U.S. Military Personnel have been diagnosed with Traumatic Brain Injury (T.B.I.), what the fucking low life belly crawling Russia Loving Asshole in Oval Office called "Headaches", no the strike was NOT necessary. Our country killed an Iranian National on Iraqi Soil, the attack happened without Iraqi knowledge or consent.

Fuck Goddam Fucking Traitor 45.

Fuck the Fucking Goddamn Traitors that support the Fucking Traitor 45.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The only legal justification stated by the White house to the press and to the Congress was that there was an imminent threat.

Then, when the White House released its explanation and justification, there was no mention whatsoever of an imminent threat.

Shameless liars.

 

[Doc7505]

obama took out bin laden -

did anyone actually think trump would allow that without whacking a raghead too ?

~~~~~~
Trump got two for one something Obama couldn't do.