The end is near for North Korea

[Timmy]

Why would we attack Nk!?? That's the real question.

It's amazing how cavalier some of you are talking about killing 100,000s. Do y'all even realize how close Seoul is too peyongang? It's like LA to San Deigo .

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes, because a preemptive strike will likely result in the aforementioned thermonuclear war.

I also do not believe the NKs are as capable as everyone wants to make them out to be in regards to the effectiveness of their missiles and nukes.

I disagree. They have shown they have the ballistic knowledge to deliver to Pearl Harbor. Landing their recent shot 300 miles from Japan while flying 37 minutes is not by accident.

-Geaux

Oh, please! Trying to hit Pearl Harbor with a nuke is like you trying to shoot a ping pong ball out of the air a hundred yards away with a slingshot, while blindfolded, and one hand tied behind your back! You do realize that is over 13,000 km, right? Their missile has a theoretical range of 10,000 km.

Shooting straight up with a missile involves zero accuracy! They have yet to demonstrate any accuracy except they have managed not to hit land or a boat on the ocean.

You're assuming (remember what they say about that) the launch would come from NK mainland. What if they launched from a ship or slid one out the back of a cargo plane?

-Geaux

Launching from a ship involves a whole new degree of difficulty. Dropping a missile out of a cargo plane is about 10,000 times as hard.

You do realize that the missile has to know where it starts from in order to calculate where it is going, right?

Who are they going to borrow a cargo plane with the legs needed to get there from NK and how will it get there without us knowing about it since we control all of the air traffic control?

Every advance in technology involves a "whole new degree of difficulty." Your argument seems to be that NK will be unable to proceed to the next step, as if its past progress in nuclear missile technology never occurred.

Also, your assertion that any military action will necessarily lead to global catastrophe is similarly unfounded. Why do you believe that the leaders of the U.S., China and Russia are all willing to commit suicide at the drop of a hat?

What happens if NK does mange to hit something with a nuclear device? Let's say an uninhabited part of Alaska gets turned to glass but the Pacific Northwest and Canada get a good dose of highly radioactive fallout..

What do you suppose we will do?

What do you suppose the Chinese will do?

What do you suppose the Russians will do?

How about the French and Brits?

Will India and Pakistan decide it is time to get in on the nuclear annihilation game?

Don't know, do you?

That's why we avoid it at all costs.

 

[jwoodie]

What happens if NK does mange to hit something with a nuclear device? Let's say an uninhabited part of Alaska gets turned to glass but the Pacific Northwest and Canada get a good dose of highly radioactive fallout..

What do you suppose we will do? Take out their nuclear missiles.

What do you suppose the Chinese will do? Protest

What do you suppose the Russians will do? Protest

How about the French and Brits? Nothing

Will India and Pakistan decide it is time to get in on the nuclear annihilation game? LOL

Don't know, do you?

Neither do you, but logic and history do not support your Chicken Little hypothesis.
You must have been very disappointed that bombing the Syrian airfield didn't start WW3...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What happens if NK does mange to hit something with a nuclear device? Let's say an uninhabited part of Alaska gets turned to glass but the Pacific Northwest and Canada get a good dose of highly radioactive fallout..

What do you suppose we will do? Take out their nuclear missiles.

What do you suppose the Chinese will do? Protest

What do you suppose the Russians will do? Protest

How about the French and Brits? Nothing

Will India and Pakistan decide it is time to get in on the nuclear annihilation game? LOL

Don't know, do you?

Neither do you, but logic and history do not support your Chicken Little hypothesis.
You must have been very disappointed that bombing the Syrian airfield didn't start WW3...

We didn't bomb Russia. In fact, we told them in advance to get their people out.

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor what did the Germans do? How about Italy? They didn't attack us.

 

[Hum Dinger]

What happens if NK does mange to hit something with a nuclear device? Let's say an uninhabited part of Alaska gets turned to glass but the Pacific Northwest and Canada get a good dose of highly radioactive fallout..

What do you suppose we will do? Take out their nuclear missiles.

What do you suppose the Chinese will do? Protest

What do you suppose the Russians will do? Protest

How about the French and Brits? Nothing

Will India and Pakistan decide it is time to get in on the nuclear annihilation game? LOL

Don't know, do you?

Neither do you, but logic and history do not support your Chicken Little hypothesis.
You must have been very disappointed that bombing the Syrian airfield didn't start WW3...

We didn't bomb Russia. In fact, we told them in advance to get their people out.

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor what did the Germans do? How about Italy? They didn't attack us.

The Germans declared war on us immediately after we declared war on Japan. They also launched a massive U-boat campaign against our shipping in our own ports:

U-Boat Attacks Of World War II: 6 Months of Secret Terror in the Atlantic - New England Historical Society

 

[jwoodie]

We didn't bomb Russia. In fact, we told them in advance to get their people out.

We are talking about bombing NK, not Russia or China.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What happens if NK does mange to hit something with a nuclear device? Let's say an uninhabited part of Alaska gets turned to glass but the Pacific Northwest and Canada get a good dose of highly radioactive fallout..

What do you suppose we will do? Take out their nuclear missiles.

What do you suppose the Chinese will do? Protest

What do you suppose the Russians will do? Protest

How about the French and Brits? Nothing

Will India and Pakistan decide it is time to get in on the nuclear annihilation game? LOL

Don't know, do you?

Neither do you, but logic and history do not support your Chicken Little hypothesis.
You must have been very disappointed that bombing the Syrian airfield didn't start WW3...

We didn't bomb Russia. In fact, we told them in advance to get their people out.

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor what did the Germans do? How about Italy? They didn't attack us.

The Germans declared war on us immediately after we declared war on Japan. They also launched a massive U-boat campaign against our shipping in our own ports:

U-Boat Attacks Of World War II: 6 Months of Secret Terror in the Atlantic - New England Historical Society

Can you answer the question as it was posed?

U-boat attacks after the war was declared is about as irrelevant as it gets. I am betting you have no idea why the 1942 date matters when war was declared in 1941.

Can you people appear to be any dumber? I think some of you are taking it as a challenge!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We didn't bomb Russia. In fact, we told them in advance to get their people out.

We are talking about bombing NK, not Russia or China.

So China and NK do not have a mutual defense treaty?

 

[Hum Dinger]

What happens if NK does mange to hit something with a nuclear device? Let's say an uninhabited part of Alaska gets turned to glass but the Pacific Northwest and Canada get a good dose of highly radioactive fallout..

What do you suppose we will do? Take out their nuclear missiles.

What do you suppose the Chinese will do? Protest

What do you suppose the Russians will do? Protest

How about the French and Brits? Nothing

Will India and Pakistan decide it is time to get in on the nuclear annihilation game? LOL

Don't know, do you?

Neither do you, but logic and history do not support your Chicken Little hypothesis.
You must have been very disappointed that bombing the Syrian airfield didn't start WW3...

We didn't bomb Russia. In fact, we told them in advance to get their people out.

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor what did the Germans do? How about Italy? They didn't attack us.

The Germans declared war on us immediately after we declared war on Japan. They also launched a massive U-boat campaign against our shipping in our own ports:

U-Boat Attacks Of World War II: 6 Months of Secret Terror in the Atlantic - New England Historical Society

Can you answer the question as it was posed?

U-boat attacks after the war was declared is about as irrelevant as it gets. I am betting you have no idea why the 1942 date matters when war was declared in 1941.

Can you people appear to be any dumber? I think some of you are taking it as a challenge!

Seriously? Are you truly that stupid?

You stated that when "the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor", the Germans "didn't attack us".

You were dead wrong. First the Germans declared war on us, then they attacked our ships. The fact that it took a month or so to move their U-boats into position does not change that fact that the Germans initiated hostilities as a direct result of the Pearl harbor attack.

Is that how you are? Instead of manning up and admitting you're wrong, you start flinging the insults like a hurt little child?

Pitiful, truly pitiful.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What happens if NK does mange to hit something with a nuclear device? Let's say an uninhabited part of Alaska gets turned to glass but the Pacific Northwest and Canada get a good dose of highly radioactive fallout..

What do you suppose we will do? Take out their nuclear missiles.

What do you suppose the Chinese will do? Protest

What do you suppose the Russians will do? Protest

How about the French and Brits? Nothing

Will India and Pakistan decide it is time to get in on the nuclear annihilation game? LOL

Don't know, do you?

Neither do you, but logic and history do not support your Chicken Little hypothesis.
You must have been very disappointed that bombing the Syrian airfield didn't start WW3...

We didn't bomb Russia. In fact, we told them in advance to get their people out.

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor what did the Germans do? How about Italy? They didn't attack us.

The Germans declared war on us immediately after we declared war on Japan. They also launched a massive U-boat campaign against our shipping in our own ports:

U-Boat Attacks Of World War II: 6 Months of Secret Terror in the Atlantic - New England Historical Society

Can you answer the question as it was posed?

U-boat attacks after the war was declared is about as irrelevant as it gets. I am betting you have no idea why the 1942 date matters when war was declared in 1941.

Can you people appear to be any dumber? I think some of you are taking it as a challenge!

Seriously? Are you truly that stupid?

You stated that when "the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor", the Germans "didn't attack us".

You were dead wrong. First the Germans declared war on us, then they attacked our ships. The fact that it took a month or so to move their U-boats into position does not change that fact that the Germans initiated hostilities as a direct result of the Pearl harbor attack.

Is that how you are? Instead of manning up and admitting you're wrong, you start flinging the insults like a hurt little child?

Pitiful, truly pitiful.

Hey, bonehead. Read the thread again! Your immature reading skills have failed you again! You agreed with what I said and then proceeded to tell us that we are apparently both wrong!

We declared war on Germany before any hostilities commenced. Is that not true?

 

[bitter clinging swiftie]

Ive often wondere3d what the world would look like today if we let stalin and hitler go at it, and just popped some popcorn.

 

[Hum Dinger]

Neither do you, but logic and history do not support your Chicken Little hypothesis.
You must have been very disappointed that bombing the Syrian airfield didn't start WW3...

We didn't bomb Russia. In fact, we told them in advance to get their people out.

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor what did the Germans do? How about Italy? They didn't attack us.

The Germans declared war on us immediately after we declared war on Japan. They also launched a massive U-boat campaign against our shipping in our own ports:

U-Boat Attacks Of World War II: 6 Months of Secret Terror in the Atlantic - New England Historical Society

Can you answer the question as it was posed?

U-boat attacks after the war was declared is about as irrelevant as it gets. I am betting you have no idea why the 1942 date matters when war was declared in 1941.

Can you people appear to be any dumber? I think some of you are taking it as a challenge!

Seriously? Are you truly that stupid?

You stated that when "the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor", the Germans "didn't attack us".

You were dead wrong. First the Germans declared war on us, then they attacked our ships. The fact that it took a month or so to move their U-boats into position does not change that fact that the Germans initiated hostilities as a direct result of the Pearl harbor attack.

Is that how you are? Instead of manning up and admitting you're wrong, you start flinging the insults like a hurt little child?

Pitiful, truly pitiful.

Hey, bonehead. Read the thread again! Your immature reading skills have failed you again! You agreed with what I said and then proceeded to tell us that we are apparently both wrong!

We declared war on Germany before any hostilities commenced. Is that not true?

O.K., try reading this SLOWLY so that you may possibly comprehend:

You said:

"When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor what did the Germans do? How about Italy? They didn't attack us."

In fact, they did attack us.

Now, you've stated:

"We declared war on Germany before any hostilities commenced."

Our declaration of war on Germany came only AFTER Germany declared war on us.

German declaration of war against the United States (1941) - Wikipedia

So when you say that the Germans didn't attack us, you are dead wrong. First they declared war on us, then they attacked us.

Stop acting like a child and admit your wrong.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We didn't bomb Russia. In fact, we told them in advance to get their people out.

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor what did the Germans do? How about Italy? They didn't attack us.

The Germans declared war on us immediately after we declared war on Japan. They also launched a massive U-boat campaign against our shipping in our own ports:

U-Boat Attacks Of World War II: 6 Months of Secret Terror in the Atlantic - New England Historical Society

Can you answer the question as it was posed?

U-boat attacks after the war was declared is about as irrelevant as it gets. I am betting you have no idea why the 1942 date matters when war was declared in 1941.

Can you people appear to be any dumber? I think some of you are taking it as a challenge!

Seriously? Are you truly that stupid?

You stated that when "the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor", the Germans "didn't attack us".

You were dead wrong. First the Germans declared war on us, then they attacked our ships. The fact that it took a month or so to move their U-boats into position does not change that fact that the Germans initiated hostilities as a direct result of the Pearl harbor attack.

Is that how you are? Instead of manning up and admitting you're wrong, you start flinging the insults like a hurt little child?

Pitiful, truly pitiful.

Hey, bonehead. Read the thread again! Your immature reading skills have failed you again! You agreed with what I said and then proceeded to tell us that we are apparently both wrong!

We declared war on Germany before any hostilities commenced. Is that not true?

O.K., try reading this SLOWLY so that you may possibly comprehend:

You said:

"When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor what did the Germans do? How about Italy? They didn't attack us."

In fact, they did attack us.

Now, you've stated:

"We declared war on Germany before any hostilities commenced."

Our declaration of war on Germany came only AFTER Germany declared war on us.

German declaration of war against the United States (1941) - Wikipedia

So when you say that the Germans didn't attack us, you are dead wrong. First they declared war on us, then they attacked us.

Stop acting like a child and admit your wrong.

Hey pinhead! Did the Germans attack Pearl Harbor? Did the Italians attack Pearl Harbor?

No, they did not! Why did we declare war on them and they declared war on us?

Because they were allies!

You need some serious help with your reading skills. I suggest an adult education program. Call your local school district and maybe they can help!

 

[THAI EXPAT]

If we could only have nuclear war with North Korea, everything would be alright!

The threat of escalation is always a consideration Vandal. But if you let it deter you from doing what is right, then who will prevail? We must do what we think is right, and deal with the consequence. I have found that evil persists unless confronted and eventually destroyed.

 

[THAI EXPAT]

Why would we attack Nk!?? That's the real question.

It's amazing how cavalier some of you are talking about killing 100,000s. Do y'all even realize how close Seoul is too peyongang? It's like LA to San Deigo .

More like LA to Long Beach. That is why a first strike must destroy NOKO ability to counter attack! They have sealed their own fate by being a suicide cult.

 

[THAI EXPAT]

Why would we attack Nk!?? That's the real question.

It's amazing how cavalier some of you are talking about killing 100,000s. Do y'all even realize how close Seoul is too peyongang? It's like LA to San Deigo .

Apparently you learned nothing from the article and discussion! NOKO intends to arm the enemies of civilization with Missiles capable of mass destruction! It is a Question of destroy them now, or destroy them after millions of innocents are destroyed. Every effort is being made to have NOKO join the world in peaceful coexistence, but nothing works!

 

[THAI EXPAT]

Why would we attack Nk!?? That's the real question.

It's amazing how cavalier some of you are talking about killing 100,000s. Do y'all even realize how close Seoul is too peyongang? It's like LA to San Deigo .

More like LA to Long Beach. That is why a first strike must destroy NOKO ability to counter attack! They have sealed their own fate by being a suicide cult.

OOPS! I meant the DMZ to Seoul. The distance from Pyongyang is irrelevant. Less than 200 miles. But all the Nukes are on the Russia and China Borders, close to their suppliers, and all their firepower is on the DMZ ready for invasion!

 

[Hum Dinger]

The Germans declared war on us immediately after we declared war on Japan. They also launched a massive U-boat campaign against our shipping in our own ports:

U-Boat Attacks Of World War II: 6 Months of Secret Terror in the Atlantic - New England Historical Society

Can you answer the question as it was posed?

U-boat attacks after the war was declared is about as irrelevant as it gets. I am betting you have no idea why the 1942 date matters when war was declared in 1941.

Can you people appear to be any dumber? I think some of you are taking it as a challenge!

Seriously? Are you truly that stupid?

You stated that when "the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor", the Germans "didn't attack us".

You were dead wrong. First the Germans declared war on us, then they attacked our ships. The fact that it took a month or so to move their U-boats into position does not change that fact that the Germans initiated hostilities as a direct result of the Pearl harbor attack.

Is that how you are? Instead of manning up and admitting you're wrong, you start flinging the insults like a hurt little child?

Pitiful, truly pitiful.

Hey, bonehead. Read the thread again! Your immature reading skills have failed you again! You agreed with what I said and then proceeded to tell us that we are apparently both wrong!

We declared war on Germany before any hostilities commenced. Is that not true?

O.K., try reading this SLOWLY so that you may possibly comprehend:

You said:

"When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor what did the Germans do? How about Italy? They didn't attack us."

In fact, they did attack us.

Now, you've stated:

"We declared war on Germany before any hostilities commenced."

Our declaration of war on Germany came only AFTER Germany declared war on us.

German declaration of war against the United States (1941) - Wikipedia

So when you say that the Germans didn't attack us, you are dead wrong. First they declared war on us, then they attacked us.

Stop acting like a child and admit your wrong.

Hey pinhead! Did the Germans attack Pearl Harbor? Did the Italians attack Pearl Harbor?

No, they did not! Why did we declare war on them and they declared war on us?

Because they were allies!

You need some serious help with your reading skills. I suggest an adult education program. Call your local school district and maybe they can help!

You are seriously pitiful. Instead of acting like an adult and admitting that you didn't know about the German U-boat campaign, you try to sleaze out of it. I understood what your wrote perfectly.

Since you won't man up and admit your mistake, it's obvious that you have absolutely no integrity. Nothing you post should be taken as anything other than pure BULLSHIT!

 

[jwoodie]

We didn't bomb Russia. In fact, we told them in advance to get their people out.

We are talking about bombing NK, not Russia or China.

So China and NK do not have a mutual defense treaty?

No, they have a "Mutual Aid and Cooperation Friendship Treaty" which does not specify that an attack against North Korea is an attack against China.

Your little word games are getting tiresome.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Can you answer the question as it was posed?

U-boat attacks after the war was declared is about as irrelevant as it gets. I am betting you have no idea why the 1942 date matters when war was declared in 1941.

Can you people appear to be any dumber? I think some of you are taking it as a challenge!

Seriously? Are you truly that stupid?

You stated that when "the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor", the Germans "didn't attack us".

You were dead wrong. First the Germans declared war on us, then they attacked our ships. The fact that it took a month or so to move their U-boats into position does not change that fact that the Germans initiated hostilities as a direct result of the Pearl harbor attack.

Is that how you are? Instead of manning up and admitting you're wrong, you start flinging the insults like a hurt little child?

Pitiful, truly pitiful.

Hey, bonehead. Read the thread again! Your immature reading skills have failed you again! You agreed with what I said and then proceeded to tell us that we are apparently both wrong!

We declared war on Germany before any hostilities commenced. Is that not true?

O.K., try reading this SLOWLY so that you may possibly comprehend:

You said:

"When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor what did the Germans do? How about Italy? They didn't attack us."

In fact, they did attack us.

Now, you've stated:

"We declared war on Germany before any hostilities commenced."

Our declaration of war on Germany came only AFTER Germany declared war on us.

German declaration of war against the United States (1941) - Wikipedia

So when you say that the Germans didn't attack us, you are dead wrong. First they declared war on us, then they attacked us.

Stop acting like a child and admit your wrong.

Hey pinhead! Did the Germans attack Pearl Harbor? Did the Italians attack Pearl Harbor?

No, they did not! Why did we declare war on them and they declared war on us?

Because they were allies!

You need some serious help with your reading skills. I suggest an adult education program. Call your local school district and maybe they can help!

You are seriously pitiful. Instead of acting like an adult and admitting that you didn't know about the German U-boat campaign, you try to sleaze out of it. I understood what your wrote perfectly.

Since you won't man up and admit your mistake, it's obvious that you have absolutely no integrity. Nothing you post should be taken as anything other than pure BULLSHIT!

I didn't know about the U-boat campaign?

I told you. I have a history degree and am a qualified submariner. You are so fucking confused. Try reading it one more time. Germany did not attack us anytime before the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and did not do so until AFTER they had declared war on the US and we had reciprocated. You are trying to claim something I never said. Try quoting it! The English language has meanings. Your misinterpretation of what I said is you inexplicably trying to play gotcha and you are failing miserably!

BTW, my major research paper in college was on US submarine warfare during WWII.