The Pentagon Must Go on the Offensive to Defeat Politicized Officers

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And according to Pete's coworkers and friends, he is unlikely either. He has admitted to overdoing alcohol at times especially after returning from his military deployment--are there any among us who has never ever done that?

But there are ZERO of his professional colleagues who are on the record as having seen Pete under the influence on the job or any other inappropriate place. The NYT which is infamous for manufacturing smears against rightwing people cites 'anonymous sources' Hardly credible when nobody can come up with any on the record sources.

He is on the record himself though that alcohol will not be part of his life while he is serving his country in his current role. And so far his track record on that job has been pretty darn good.

Excellent post!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Have you ever worn the uniform?

Pete Hegseth has probably more time in combat on the shitter than that asshole has in the military.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Boot her ass out.

Number 1 standing order while serving in the military is never show disrespect for the president.

What if he deserves it?

An alcoholic is not necessarily a drunk. You may now correct your thinking.

Really? What's the difference.

 

[mudwhistle]

What if he deserves it?

Really? What's the difference.

Doesn't matter. Obama deserved to be disrespected. Clinton deserved to be disrespected. Biden deserved to be disrespected.
Doesn't matter if you agree with their politics or not.

STFU and do your job.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Doesn't matter. Obama deserved to be disrespected. Clinton deserved to be disrespected. Biden deserved to be disrespected.
Doesn't matter if you agree with their politics or not.

STFU and do your job.

You didn't answer my question. That was a sincere question.

Can people lose their jobs for disrespecting the president? I don't know how things really work in your country.

 

[mudwhistle]

You didn't answer my question. That was a sincere question.

Can people lose their jobs for disrespecting the president? I don't know how things really work in your country.

Yes. You can lose your job if you disrespect your commander in chief.

If you're enlisted you get busted. If you're an officer you get fired and booted out of the military.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Yes. You can lose your job if you disrespect your commander in chief.

If you're enlisted you get busted. If you're an officer you get fired and booted out of the military.

But what if the commander in chief did something truly despicable? Like, if he's caught and proven to have diddled kids? Would it be fine to disrespect him then?

 

[Lesh]

The Pentagon Must Go on the Offensive to Defeat Politicized Officers​

The Pentagon Must Go on the Offensive to Defeat Politicized Officers

townhall.com

14 Apr 2025 ~~ By Kurt Schlichter

That Space Force colonel in command in Greenland – well, formerly in command in Greenland – who ran her fool mouth to undermine her commander-in-chief demonstrates an all-too-common problem with today’s senior military officers. We keep seeing these passive-aggressive, and not so passively aggressive, officers acting out and throwing childish tantrums of resistance to the President that the people of the United States elected. It’s inconceivable to those of us from the military who won the Cold War; we stayed the hell out of politics. Somehow, they must have missed that civilian control block of instruction; non-partisanship is a vital principle of our officer corps. To be political on duty is a violation of our oaths. It’s a violation of our ethos as officers. And it’s got to be brutally crushed – even Barack Obama understood that when he properly canned General Stanley McChrystal for having a staff that thought it was okay to diss the President to reporters (incredibly, after this massive leadership failure, McChrystal has gone on to sell his leadership insights to eager civilian suckers, but that’s another story).
We simply cannot have a functioning military that tolerates individuals putting their own personal prerogatives ahead of the mission – and that’s exactly what this political posturing is. It brings to mind a story of my continuing dispute with my command sergeant major when I commanded a cavalry squadron. We rarely disagreed on anything; my CSM was that guy whose picture is scowling back at you, judging you, when you look up the definition of a noncommissioned officer. But every chow time in the field, we had a confrontation. One of us would note that the last of the soldiers had eaten, and then the argument would begin.
“Sir, time for you to grab chow.”
“After you, Sergeant Major.”
“After you, Colonel.”
It was the same dispute, every meal. Both of us wanted to eat last. That’s because leaders eat last. That’s because leaders put themselves after their troops. It was a point of pride.
~Snip~
Your politics don’t matter when you are a military leader. At all. Politics have no place in the military. None. I was becoming more and more prominent politically and in the media as a civilian while I was becoming a senior field grade officer as a reservist, but I was actively apolitical around the troops.
~Snip~
But apparently, some officers these days think there is a Trump Exception to their duty as officers to be apolitical, just as there appears to be a Trump Exception to every other rule, regulation, norm, and standard in our society and government. They are wrong, and their utterly bass ackwards conception of their duties as leaders is poisonous to the organization. If you aren’t loyal to the commander-in-chief, who are you loyal to?
~Snip~
What’s stunning is the sheer cheesiness of their tiresome acts of resistance. The commander of Fort Igloo decided to throw away her career by mass emailing a cloying letter that emphasized how she didn’t support the political leadership’s initiatives re: Greenland. What was she thinking? Another officer at NATO headquarters refused to post pictures of the new commander-in-chief and vice-president, as is a rule on military installations.
~Snip~
There is, of course, a quick and effective means of setting the standard – or, in this case, resetting it. And Pete Hegseth is doing it. When you find someone who is failing to meet his or her obligations as a senior officer, you fire him or her. You do it immediately, like the SecDef did here. You don’t dither. You don’t equivocate. You don’t wait a couple of months until the brigadier general you detailed to perform an Army Regulation 15–6 investigation completes it. You fire the offender on the spot. And you consider firing his or her boss for allowing that kind of command climate to fester.
You also ensure that the relieved officer is retired at the rank where he or she last served satisfactorily, as opposed to the rank he or she wore when fired. Here’s a pro-tip: You didn’t serve satisfactorily if you were relieved for cause. And, where appropriate, you use the Uniform Code of Military Justice to prosecute those senior officers who violate the law and publicly embarrass the officer corps through their gross lack of professionalism. If you can bust a private for mislaying his M4, you can charge a colonel or general who breaches the most basic rules that govern our military organizations.
~Snip~
It’s not outside the realm of possibility that I might be called back on active duty as a retiree for a short time to help out with rebuilding my beloved military – clearly, the situation is desperate. But if I do, during the time I’m wearing the uniform, you won’t hear a damn thing from me here or on X about what I think about politics.
We need a military that can win wars again. That will not happen until we first defeat the senior leaders who put their politics ahead of their duty.


Commentary:
Under president Obama there was a purge of the Officer and Non-commissioned office corps within all branches of the military.
Along with the purge a promotion of politically ideological personnel were advanced.
People like Vanderman, Milley, Austin, and the commander of Fort Igloo were propelled into higher ranks that would not have been previously considered for promotion.
Pete Hegseth is correct and is doing the best thing. He's weeding out those officers that have become politically active and removed them from authority and influencing the military ethos wrongly.
Kudos to what is occurring it makes a stronger and effective military when they adhere to it's strengths rather than effeminizing our forces and using political officers like Russian a China to politically control ou military.

You ever read any history?

Stalin pulled a very similar kind of purge and turned the Soviet Army onto a marshmallow that Hitler rolled right over for two years

 

[MayorQuimby]

You ever read any history?

Stalin pulled a very similar kind of purge and turned the Soviet Army onto a marshmallow that Hitler rolled right over for two years

It was because Germans were > than Russians, not because of what you think it was.

 

[mudwhistle]

But what if the commander in chief did something truly despicable? Like, if he's caught and proven to have diddled kids? Would it be fine to disrespect him then?

If he was caught doing that then wouldn't be president after he's impeached. But if you're wearing a uniform you cannot join political groups or voice your opinion online.

FYI, Obama and Michelle are pedophiles. They just haven't been caught yet.

 

[westwall]

Court Martial, and reduced in rank.

How about Court Martialed, and kicked out of the military with a Dishonerable Discharge.

 

[westwall]

OK, So quote me the numbers of trans total in our country & then how many of them are in the military's
The numbers depending on there political lean, seem to be less than one % to one and a half % of the whole population.

Who cares. They are mentally ill. Funny how you support them, but lie to go after Hegseth.

 

[MayorQuimby]

If he was caught doing that then wouldn't be president after he's impeached.

But what if he's somehow not impeached? Or what if it's during the transition period between when he's found out, but before he's impeached?

But if you're wearing a uniform you cannot join political groups or voice your opinion online.

Well, I can't say whether you are right or not because I don't know enough about your country. But I swear I have seen the picture of an FBI officer who knelt down during a BLM (I think it was) protest like it was sacred to him. Would this also be disallowed?

 

[Lesh]

It was because Germans were > than Russians, not because of what you think it was.

So you don’t know history

 

[Lesh]

If he was caught doing that then wouldn't be president after he's impeached. But if you're wearing a uniform you cannot join political groups or voice your opinion online.

FYI, Obama and Michelle are pedophiles. They just haven't been caught yet.

You’re insane

 

[mudwhistle]

But what if he's somehow not impeached? Or what if it's during the transition period between when he's found out, but before he's impeached?



Well, I can't say whether you are right or not because I don't know enough about your country. But I swear I have seen the picture of an FBI officer who knelt down during a BLM (I think it was) protest like it was sacred to him. Would this also be disallowed?

I don't deal in hypotheticals when it comes to the military.

You get an Article 13 if you're enlisted.
If you're an officer you get fired and put out of the military.

The FBI isn't active-duty military.

 

[mudwhistle]

You’re insane

No...I'm a realist.

 

[Lesh]

No...I'm a realist.

Not from your posts here

 

[Doc7505]

sartre play said:
OK, So quote me the numbers of trans total in our country & then how many of them are in the military's
The numbers depending on there political lean, seem to be less than one % to one and a half % of the whole population.
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Statistics show that the of LGBTQ is less than 5% in America, They are a slight minority in America,

LGBT Identification Rises to 5.6% in Latest U.S. Estimate

Gallup finds 5.6% of U.S. adults identifying as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender, with the majority of them saying they are bisexual.

news.gallup.com

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Why do we overestimate the number of trans people in the US?

State legislators introduced hundreds of 2023 bills targeting transgender Americans and affecting access to health care,

www.politifact.com

The statistics if correct belie and questions why so many of this minority should be selectively placed in prominent positions in government and our military?

 

[MayorQuimby]

I don't deal in hypotheticals when it comes to the military.

You get an Article 13 if you're enlisted.
If you're an officer you get fired and put out of the military.

Rules are man-made. They can and should be revised wherever they stop making sense.

I just don't understand why you have to be so rigid about it. Presidents are humans too, and as humans, they can fuck up majorly. And when they do, I see no point in demanding all his subordinates still respect him. Maybe they don't deserve any respect whatsoever, depending on their offense.

The FBI isn't active-duty military.

But the idea is the same though. They both serve the country and the people, they shouldn't have any political affiliations when carrying out their official duties.