Zone1 The reason there is hatred against Jews is about numbers. Judaism is a tiny religion and group compared to their enemies.

[Lisa558]

Jesus was denying both.

BINGO.

No Jew would ever call himself Gd.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Jesus was denying both.

This is where you go off the deep end. This is why you believe there are contradictions

"Before Abraham was, I Am"

he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”

14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

BINGO.

No Jew would ever call himself Gd.

I "love" your double standard here.

1. He is a Jew
2. I just showed you where He did
3. The fact that you miss the evidence every Holy Day should embarrass you

 

[Lisa558]

I "love" your double standard here.

1. He is a Jew
2. I just showed you where He did
3. The fact that you miss the evidence every Holy Day should embarrass you

Oh, I see. Now Jews should be “embarrassed.”

Maybe YOU should be embarrassed for believing that Jesus was anything other than a poor Jewish man, hmmmmm?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Oh, I see. Now Jews should be “embarrassed.”

Maybe YOU should be embarrassed for believing that Jesus was anything other than a poor Jewish man, hmmmmm?

Are you black?
You insist so many things.

The Christian world cannot disagree with your religion even though your beliefs are the minority.

We cannot quote our Scriptures in your presence because it "offends" you

We cannot say your religion is incomplete because you reject the many fulfilled prophecies about Christ

But you maintain the "right" to come into the religion forum and "offend" the majority.

I do believe you must be a black Jew. Are you Sammy?

Yeah you missed the boat and should be embarrassed

 

[Lisa558]

Are you black?
You insist so many things.

The Christian world cannot disagree with your religion even though your beliefs are the minority.

We cannot quote our Scriptures in your presence because it "offends" you

We cannot say your religion is incomplete because you reject the many fulfilled prophecies about Christ

But you maintain the "right" to come into the religion forum and "offend" the majority.

I do believe you must be a black Jew. Are you Sammy?

You antisemite. You just said Jews should be EMBARRASSED for not believing in Jesus. Do you even see what a hypocrite you are?
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[Woodznutz]

Yep. Just between you and me, Jesus had no intention to start a new religion.

Jesus wanted to raise the bar, and that basically made it a new religion.

 

[BreezeWood]

there is none good but one, that is, God.

Jesus was denying both.

just absurd - 12 perfectly well knows the christian bible is written by the crucifiers using jesus's name - their brethren in betrayal.

 

[BreezeWood]

Oh, I see. Now Jews should be “embarrassed.”

Maybe YOU should be embarrassed for believing that Jesus was anything other than a poor Jewish man, hmmmmm?

jesus nor any of the heavenly exemplars were jews -

they did not fear moses and their false commandments nor abraham's hereditary idolatry - is why they were chosen by the heavens and why the 1st century events are indelible forever in the quest of humanity and its survival.

 

[Hector12]

This is where you go off the deep end. This is why you believe there are contradictions

"Before Abraham was, I Am"

he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”

14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.

The Bible was written by many men, and perhaps a few women over a period of at least twelve thousand years. We should not be surprised that these people disagree on occasion.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

This is where you go off the deep end. This is why you believe there are contradictions

"Before Abraham was, I Am"

he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”

14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.

I ONLY quoted the Scriptures and NONE OF MY OWN WORDS, to show you have no idea what you're talking about about

You give me a "disagree". That's all you got. You are dishonest

 

[ding]

The Divinity of Jesus is only asserted in the Gospel of St. John.

Seems like you are playing word games with using the word "asserted" as it was demonstrated in all four gospels. From what I remember each gospel was written for a different purpose.

 

[ding]

The Bible was written by many men, and perhaps a few women over a period of at least twelve thousand years. We should not be surprised that these people disagree on occasion.

That's not really a correct way of saying it if you use the literal meaning of the word "written." And 12,000 years is a bit of a stretch. I believe it was closer to 6000 years.

 

[ding]

BINGO.

No Jew would ever call himself Gd.

Technically he didn't. He did things that implied he was equal to God that led the religious leaders to accuse him of blaspheme.

 

[Lisa558]

Technically he didn't. He did things that implied he was equal to God that led the religious leaders to accuse him of blaspheme.

Well, IF he implied that he’s equal to Gd, that of course is blaspheme. No Jew would do such a thing.

 

[ding]

You antisemite.

Hobelim calls me an idolator because I am Christian. All the time. Over a hundred times at least. It's his only purpose here. No Jew here has admonished him not to do so. Would I be considered antisemetic if I responded to his accusation by saying Jews rejected the messiah?

 

[ding]

Well, IF he implied that he’s equal to Gd, that of course is blaspheme. No Jew would do such a thing.

That's what Jesus was accused of. That and sorcery. That's why he was put to death.

 

[Lisa558]

Seems like you are playing word games with using the word "asserted" as it was demonstrated in all four gospels. From what I remember each gospel was written for a different purpose.

I think what he means is that the writers of the Gospels made claims as to what Jesus said, hence their “assertions.”

 

[Lisa558]

Hobelim calls me an idolator because I am Christian. All the time. Over a hundred times at least. It's his only purpose here. No Jew here has admonished him not to do so. Would I be considered antisemetic if I responded to his accusation by saying Jews rejected the messiah?

Yes. I would prefer you say the Jews did not believe Jesus was the messiah, as he did not meet the prophecies laid out in the Hebrew Bible.

 

[ding]

I think what he means is that the writers of the Gospels made claims as to what Jesus said, hence their “assertions.”

I'm not asking you to agree with it and I'm not trying to convince you of it. I am merely trying to not have my beliefs openly and blatantly disrespected. I'm no different than you in that regard.