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I dismissed nothing.....I admitted that I don't have the info immediately on hand, and implied that I would have little trouble digging it up if push comes to shove.convienient, you can make the statement, and then dismiss me asking for clarification
what fields were they in?
so 20% were educated with weather and climate.
ok, engineers have a part to play as well, as do biologists and herpitologists. Zoologists wouldn't be suprising, neither would physicists. aeronautical engineers maybe, fast food workers, maybe not.
Most fast food workers I use to work with have better brains in their heads than you do.
Again, why do you support monopolies and giving the rich all of our money?
so 20% were educated with weather and climate.
ok, engineers have a part to play as well, as do biologists and herpitologists. Zoologists wouldn't be suprising, neither would physicists. aeronautical engineers maybe, fast food workers, maybe not.
Most fast food workers I use to work with have better brains in their heads than you do.
Again, why do you support monopolies and giving the rich all of our money?
That's sad, when the debate turns against you, you use snide remarks in an attempt to put me down. I worked in food to support myself through university. Just because I don't agree with you, I'm dumb. Brilliant argument, professor.
I don't, when did I say that? are you assuming things again.
1. He stated the fields in that post.
2. Using information that even your own scientists have disregarded is really stupid.
what post?
in this thread?
which information was disregarded?
Where was it used?
You are new, so your lack of knowing what was discussed here already is just because you are too lazy to read through some of the threads, which also explains why you still only know the 5% of the story fed to you by the Gore machine.
I dismissed nothing.....I admitted that I don't have the info immediately on hand, and implied that I would have little trouble digging it up if push comes to shove.convienient, you can make the statement, and then dismiss me asking for clarification
what fields were they in?
As for the rather dubious credentials of many of the IPCC "scientists".....
William Schlesinger on IPCC: something on the order of 20 percent have had some dealing with climate. « Watts Up With That?
Most fast food workers I use to work with have better brains in their heads than you do.
Again, why do you support monopolies and giving the rich all of our money?
That's sad, when the debate turns against you, you use snide remarks in an attempt to put me down. I worked in food to support myself through university. Just because I don't agree with you, I'm dumb. Brilliant argument, professor.
I don't, when did I say that? are you assuming things again.
No ... it's because you are unarmed and this debate is old ... no matter what is posted contradicting your hoax, you environuts ignore it, period. You never address it, you never counter it, you either completely ignore it or post the same report over and over again. One can only bang their head against brick walls for so long before they decide to just tear them down completely.
True as that is, it's pretty much all that's left when people refuse to consider contravening evidence....Like 99% of the AGW cargo cultists (there I go again!).I don't care if you believe that the warming is caused by mankind and our actions, you're not going to change your mind right now. I'm just trying to point out the fact that compartmentalizing folks based on their political views is not really an effective strategy when dealing with people.
what post?
in this thread?
which information was disregarded?
Where was it used?
You are new, so your lack of knowing what was discussed here already is just because you are too lazy to read through some of the threads, which also explains why you still only know the 5% of the story fed to you by the Gore machine.
I know what the Gore machine fed the people, and it's sad that you haven't even paid enough attention in this thread to read that I don't follow Gore. I worked in atmospheric science analysis for years after school, I was doing the data while Gore was still mopping the Oval Office floors, after the Clinton parties.
I've been reading through many of the environment threads here, just not posting on many, because they keep repeating the same babble (Gore's a douche, Gore uses his own plane, Blah, blah, blah)
Not all climate change believers worship Gore, just like not all Lefties worship Obama. It's the right wing talk machine that says these things, and the right believes them.
I don't care if you believe that the warming is caused by mankind and our actions, you're not going to change your mind right now. I'm just trying to point out the fact that compartmentalizing folks based on their political views is not really an effective strategy when dealing with people.
When the environmental movement started, cleaning up was the main issue? Like air pollution, or water pollution?
The world has changed since then.
Saying that I am following Gore because I believe the science, is like saying I'm asian just because I like rice, or that you follow Rush Limbaugh just because you are a republican.
Nice way to end a decent debate because you are now scared. Fuck you too.
You are new, so your lack of knowing what was discussed here already is just because you are too lazy to read through some of the threads, which also explains why you still only know the 5% of the story fed to you by the Gore machine.
I know what the Gore machine fed the people, and it's sad that you haven't even paid enough attention in this thread to read that I don't follow Gore. I worked in atmospheric science analysis for years after school, I was doing the data while Gore was still mopping the Oval Office floors, after the Clinton parties.
I've been reading through many of the environment threads here, just not posting on many, because they keep repeating the same babble (Gore's a douche, Gore uses his own plane, Blah, blah, blah)
Not all climate change believers worship Gore, just like not all Lefties worship Obama. It's the right wing talk machine that says these things, and the right believes them.
I don't care if you believe that the warming is caused by mankind and our actions, you're not going to change your mind right now. I'm just trying to point out the fact that compartmentalizing folks based on their political views is not really an effective strategy when dealing with people.
No, you are following Gore, you just don't want to see it. Gore owns the scientists that are "accepted", the peer pressured ones who's findings always support only a few major corporations ... which Gore owns. There is more to this than just the failed science based on circumstantial evidence, there is a lot of money. Gore's money precisely. Look into the past, further back than you are, you are following environut philosophy, not environmental responsibility. When we started this movement, before Gore got his venomous claws into it, it was about just cleaning up. That's all we have to do still, just clean up after ourselves. Here's the clue, heat increase was originally connected to the ozone, because of increased radiation. Since that prediction failed, they had to blame it on something else. Conveniently the CO2 levels started rising because an algae that was growing to handle the increased CO2 for whatever reason, was destroyed because it threatened some fish (the truly fucked up thing is that they are trying to destroy what little is left because it's a "threat" to another fish). But did they see that connection and admit they fucked up ... no, like you, they don't really care. It's all about looking like they care. The movement changed when Gore altered a report, so he could endorse his products out of fear, it worked and you are proof it worked. So he now keeps doing it. Until you stop and see the whole picture, you know nothing. No matter you degrees, studies, anything you may think has meaning, you know nothing.
Your kind fucked up the movement I originally got involved in because I don't like people, and I wanted a nice clean forest to escape to ... well guess what, now it costs $20 to go to those clean forests, thanks to you idiots. Now you are pushing for laws for products and services (which profit Gore of course) that are actually worse for the environment than those they replace, but instead of you learning everything about them, you swallow some propaganda about them and are willing to see everything lay in ruin just so you can pretend to care. But here's the kicker, I don't give a fuck what happens to humanity, I care only about getting my forests back and seeing nature balanced again. Now you all push for this "corn" fuel ... there goes more of the forest, and the price just to hike in a clean one will cost twice as much because of it. So fuck you.
When the environmental movement started, cleaning up was the main issue? Like air pollution, or water pollution?
The world has changed since then.
Saying that I am following Gore because I believe the science, is like saying I'm asian just because I like rice, or that you follow Rush Limbaugh just because you are a republican.
Nice way to end a decent debate because you are now scared. Fuck you too.
You don't believe in science, you believe in your "ideals" ... science doesn't support anything you have said, circumstantial evidence is not a conclusion.
I know what the Gore machine fed the people, and it's sad that you haven't even paid enough attention in this thread to read that I don't follow Gore. I worked in atmospheric science analysis for years after school, I was doing the data while Gore was still mopping the Oval Office floors, after the Clinton parties.
I've been reading through many of the environment threads here, just not posting on many, because they keep repeating the same babble (Gore's a douche, Gore uses his own plane, Blah, blah, blah)
Not all climate change believers worship Gore, just like not all Lefties worship Obama. It's the right wing talk machine that says these things, and the right believes them.
I don't care if you believe that the warming is caused by mankind and our actions, you're not going to change your mind right now. I'm just trying to point out the fact that compartmentalizing folks based on their political views is not really an effective strategy when dealing with people.
No, you are following Gore, you just don't want to see it. Gore owns the scientists that are "accepted", the peer pressured ones who's findings always support only a few major corporations ... which Gore owns. There is more to this than just the failed science based on circumstantial evidence, there is a lot of money. Gore's money precisely. Look into the past, further back than you are, you are following environut philosophy, not environmental responsibility. When we started this movement, before Gore got his venomous claws into it, it was about just cleaning up. That's all we have to do still, just clean up after ourselves. Here's the clue, heat increase was originally connected to the ozone, because of increased radiation. Since that prediction failed, they had to blame it on something else. Conveniently the CO2 levels started rising because an algae that was growing to handle the increased CO2 for whatever reason, was destroyed because it threatened some fish (the truly fucked up thing is that they are trying to destroy what little is left because it's a "threat" to another fish). But did they see that connection and admit they fucked up ... no, like you, they don't really care. It's all about looking like they care. The movement changed when Gore altered a report, so he could endorse his products out of fear, it worked and you are proof it worked. So he now keeps doing it. Until you stop and see the whole picture, you know nothing. No matter you degrees, studies, anything you may think has meaning, you know nothing.
Your kind fucked up the movement I originally got involved in because I don't like people, and I wanted a nice clean forest to escape to ... well guess what, now it costs $20 to go to those clean forests, thanks to you idiots. Now you are pushing for laws for products and services (which profit Gore of course) that are actually worse for the environment than those they replace, but instead of you learning everything about them, you swallow some propaganda about them and are willing to see everything lay in ruin just so you can pretend to care. But here's the kicker, I don't give a fuck what happens to humanity, I care only about getting my forests back and seeing nature balanced again. Now you all push for this "corn" fuel ... there goes more of the forest, and the price just to hike in a clean one will cost twice as much because of it. So fuck you.
what an angry fucker you are. blaming me for the world's problems. quite telling.
No it doesn't.I believe in science, actual science.
Science not supported by Gore nor Exxon.
Science does support what I have said, unlike your positions, which are based on your personal greed and anger.
No it doesn't.I believe in science, actual science.
Science not supported by Gore nor Exxon.
Science does support what I have said, unlike your positions, which are based on your personal greed and anger.
AGW junk science has no physical static control....Just computer models limited by the information programmed into it by imperfect people
No control, no science.
Nor is AGW junk science reproducible, on demand and in the context of a dynamic system with millions -if not billions- of variables.
No reproducible results, no science.
Coming from someone who doesn't even know anything about New Orleans ... that's a compliment. ... also it's bitch to you, yes I am angry, idiots crying to "cleaner" fuel then completely ignoring the two actual ways to fix the problems (nuclear and population control) just because you would rather give all the power and money to one person ... yeah ... I have a lot of reasons to be angry.
No it doesn't.I believe in science, actual science.
Science not supported by Gore nor Exxon.
Science does support what I have said, unlike your positions, which are based on your personal greed and anger.
AGW junk science has no physical static control....Just computer models limited by the information programmed into them by imperfect people.
No control, no science.
Nor is AGW junk science reproducible, on demand and in the context of a dynamic system with millions -if not billions- of variables.
No reproducible results, no science.
