The thread where I make Democrats angry- why we lost in 2024!

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Since 99% of my posts make Republicans Angry, I thought I'd do a post where I antagonize Democrats with hard, cold truths. Because it seems to me most of the Democrat discussion is "We weren't radical enough!"

So here is my list, 11 reasons why Democrats got their asses handed to them in 2024.

1) Joe Biden – completely and utterly screwed his party. It should have been evident to everyone around him that, at 81, he didn’t have the acuity or stamina to wage a campaign against Trump. He maybe never did, but the unique nature of the 2020 election gave him a pass. In 2020, he promised to be a transitional president. A second term never should have been in the cards.

In any event, Biden should have withdrawn after the 2022 midterms, and the Democrats did better than they deserved to because Trump insisted on extreme MAGA candidates for winnable races. A vigorous primary campaign would have tempered the steel of the eventual nominee.


2) Kamala Harris – In one aspect, it’s easy to be sympathetic; she had to hop in and pick up a ball that had been fumbled. That said, she was a poor candidate. She was a weak candidate in 2020 when she dropped out before the primaries, and she did little to distinguish herself as Vice President. But the Democrats were painted into a corner. Passing over her to pick someone more electable would have been seen as an insult to women and minorities. Additionally, there was the issue of who could legally use the money that Biden had raised to that point.

Harris should have done a self-evaluation and realized that she probably wasn’t the best candidate. She didn’t. We got the result we should have expected.

3) Tim Walz- a lousy pick. He brought nothing to the table. Minnesota hasn’t gone Red since 1972. If the Democrats are seriously fighting for MN, they need to rethink their party. Shapiro, Warnock, anyone who could have helped in a Swing state would have been better.

4) The Corporate Media didn’t do its job- The Corporate Media has this weird symbiotic relationship with Trump. They know he’s repulsive, but he’s good for ratings. He’s reality TV incarnate, normalizing lousy behavior because it’s entertaining. Joe Biden could look a bit confused trying to find the exit, and you’d get speculation about his mental acuity. Trump could rant about Haitians eating cats and Arnold Palmer’s….er… attributes, and nope, nothing to see here.

5) Abortion wasn’t the magic bullet – The initial shock of Dobbs probably saved the Democrats from worse results in 2022, but it was a hand Harris overplayed. Most Americans are ambivalent about abortion. They don’t think it should be illegal, but they don’t like it much, either. Making it the centerpiece of your campaign was a bad idea.

6) Taking Asians and Hispanics for granted – This is the untold story of 2024. Trump didn’t improve his numbers with white voters. He lost a percentage point among them. He only slightly improved his standing with black voters. The two big groups that he gained were Hispanics (+14) and Asians (+6), despite the toxic and racist language coming from Trump on Immigration.

Part of the reason was that the Harris team took them for granted, whereas Trump made genuine outreach. The other part of the problem is that immigration is affecting these communities, and muddled messaging didn’t help.

7) Immigration – Immigration has become a significant crisis, which Biden and Harris did not effectively manage. Part of the problem is immigrants figured out the Asylum loophole and abused the heck out of it. The other part of the problem is that Biden did very little to discourage immigration. While they deported more people than Trump did during his first term, they didn’t like to talk about it because they thought it wouldn’t play well with the Hispanic Community.

8) It’s the economy, stupid. The Biden economy was pretty good. Record stock market growth, record job growth, and low unemployment. The fly in the ointment, of course, was high inflation, driven by global commodities, labor shortages, and, yes, the Trillions in Stimulus That both Trump and Biden pumped into the economy to keep it afloat during COVID-19. The problem was, the Democrats did a poor job talking up the good stuff, and really weren't proactive enough on inflation, other than "Just let the fed handle it by putting home prices out of reach".

9) Transgender rights - Failure to Communicate. Democrats let Republicans run the table with this one. Every time the Republicans dragged out some college girl whining how she didn’t get a trophy, the Democrats should have brought out a transgender girl who transphobic people have abused. They didn’t do this, and the GOP got away with dehumanization.

10) Not holding Trump to account for COVID (or anything else!) – It is MIND-BOGGLING to me how Democrats weren’t reminding people at every step about how Trump mismanaged the COVID crisis (and subsequent recession).

11) Israel and Palestine- trying to thread the needle. This is where they should have taken a stand. Instead, they tried to please both sides and ended up pleasing neither one. So now you have these Arab-Americans in Dearborn, MI, who stayed home. How are things better for you now? ,

DUH. You haven't said anything outside of the standard democrat talking points heard repeatedly since the election.

 

[JoeB131]

Also,

the effect of lawfare against Trump was completely miscalculated. Every time another frivolous case was set up to prevent him from being president, his popularity increased.

I doubt anyone who wasn't already drinking deeply of the bleach cared about the Lawfare thing.

And

while the Dems were preaching that Trump was a threat to Democracy, they were working to remove Biden and install Kamala. They waited until after the primaries were completed, because they knew she would not win. They threw all the votes in the trash, and informed everyone that the new candidate, chosen by party elites and donors, was Kamala. This was not Democracy on display.

This might be closer to a valid point, which I made in my first two points. The way that transition was done was very bad optics, and it would have been far better if Biden had stepped aside in early 2023 and let the process play out.

 

[JoeB131]

DUH. You haven't said anything outside of the standard democrat talking points heard repeatedly since the election.

I haven't?

Because when I hear people saying,
"We need more people like Bernie and AOC"

and

"Maybe we need to run Harris again!"

I have to wonder if Democrats learned ANYTHING from 2024.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

I haven't?

Because when I hear people saying,
"We need more people like Bernie and AOC"

and

"Maybe we need to run Harris again!"

I have to wonder if Democrats learned ANYTHING from 2024.

Quite obviously not.

 

[Rawley]

I doubt anyone who wasn't already drinking deeply of the bleach cared about the Lawfare thing.

Dude, the ridiculous lawfare perpetrated by your cult was a significant reason your party got kicked to the curb and Trump is in the White House.

 

[Lesh]

4 out of 5 kids who question gender ‘grow out of it’: Transgender expert

Dr. Riittakerttu Kaltiala has presided over youth gender transition treatments for more than a decade.

nypost.com

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No kidding? The Rupert Murdoch owned NY Post found some psychiatrist in Finland that said… something

 

[JoeB131]

Dude, the ridiculous lawfare perpetrated by your cult was a significant reason your party got kicked to the curb and Trump is in the White House.

I haven't heard one person say that who wasn't already drinking the bleach.

 

[Rawley]

Why would I have to? The point is, we try to do all these things, and no one has a complaint about it because they don't feel threatened by it. For some reason, you feel threatened by trans people, and that's more about your insecurities than theirs.

You don't think your party made a mistake shoving the trans movement down our throats, hard?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Dude, the ridiculous lawfare perpetrated by your cult was a significant reason your party got kicked to the curb and Trump is in the White House.

Dude, the orange bag O' shit is sketchy and corrupt. He openly breaks laws willy-nilly. His CULT worships him. It's why he got fired the first time in '20, and got rehired after a bad democrat effort in '24. Both candidates sucked out loud.

 

[JoeB131]

You don't think your party made a mistake shoving the trans movement down our throats, hard?

I think they were ineffective in countering Trump's campaign of hate.

Every time Trump rolled out that girl who whined about not getting a fifth place trophy, they should have counted with a trans-girl who has been bullied by bigots.

 

[BluesLegend]

Dude, the ridiculous lawfare perpetrated by your cult was a significant reason your party got kicked to the curb and Trump is in the White House.

As the Dem party circled the drain under blithering idiot Joe, there was no law Dems would not break, no unamerican dirty trick Dems would not use to cling to power and the control over government money. As we are seeing with DOGE, it was ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.

 

[JoeB131]

Sure it effects me, you freaks want to subsidize this crap with my tax money.

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You're probably not paying enough taxes to subsidize anything.

 

[OKTexas]

No idea what your are rambling about. I simply want you to leave people alone to be who they are.

You might want to keep up with what you party has been up to. They're already getting taxpayer funded "treatment" in the military.

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[JoeB131]

You might want to keep up with what you party has been up to. They're already getting taxpayer funded "treatment" in the military.

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So?

If we have people signing up for free college, why not sign up for free transgender therapy?

 

[Rawley]

You might want to keep up with what you party has been up to. They're already getting taxpayer funded "treatment" in the military.

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And the funding of the indoctrination of our kids in elementary, middle and high school

 

[pknopp]

You might want to keep up with what you party has been up to. They're already getting taxpayer funded "treatment" in the military.

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Its your party. Quit trying to deflect and address what I actually say.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

And the funding of the indoctrination of our kids in elementary, middle and high school

A highly political paranoid take, if you're a parent.

 

[OKTexas]

Why would I have to? The point is, we try to do all these things, and no one has a complaint about it because they don't feel threatened by it. For some reason, you feel threatened by trans people, and that's more about your insecurities than theirs.

They threaten our society as a whole, if only you were smart enough to recognize that.

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[OKTexas]

No kidding? The Rupert Murdoch owned NY Post found some psychiatrist in Finland that said… something

Yeah, someone with more than a decade of experience. Care to debunk what was said in the article or are you just tolling?

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[OKTexas]

So?

If we have people signing up for free college, why not sign up for free transgender therapy?

Sure, you commiecrats are for anything to degrade the military.

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