This is the reason why some Republicans despise Matt Gaetz.

[White 6]

You're more concerned about what they're being counseled for rather than the fact that the FBI is paying for it? Guess that doesn't raise any red flags for you at all?

Far as I can tell, the US Government has been wasting my hard-earned, hard-paid taxes on lots of frivolous BS, since I was 16. It did not surprise me. You said they were paying for counseling, so I wondered, what type. We probably paid more for the report from the Republican judiciary committee, but Johnson and Gaetz want it buried, instead, to protect their own.

 

[White 6]

So your theory is that he screwed with an underage girl that was a prostitute, and since the feds couldn't get him for taking her across state lines, they just dropped the case? No referral of charges to the state that it happened in?

No. Have heard nothing to indicate the 17 year old was a prostitute. Not sure why you could start calling her names. The two that were paid on Venmo were of legal age, and working the sex industry in Florida. I figure the 17 year old high school girl was just awestruck by the 32 year-old Congrassman, and was ready to go to the matt, so to speak.

Sounds like family politics due to his daddy, probably handled the instate problem.

 

[OldFlame]

Far as I can tell, the US Government has been wasting my hard-earned, hard-paid taxes on lots of frivolous BS, since I was 16. It did not surprise me. You said they were paying for counseling, so I wondered, what type. We probably paid more for the report from the Republican judiciary committee, but Johnson and Gaetz want it buried, instead, to protect their own.

I think it's payment for services rendered..

 

[OldFlame]

No. Have heard nothing to indicate the 17 year old was a prostitute. Not sure why you could start calling her names. The two that were paid on Venmo were of legal age, and working the sex industry in Florida. I figure the 17 year old high school girl was just awestruck by the 32 year-old Congrassman, and was ready to go to the matt, so to speak.

Sounds like family politics due to his daddy, probably handled the instate problem.

Not what I read... she was available and advertised on a certain website, and she lied about her age.

 

[White 6]

Not what I read... she was available and advertised on a certain website, and she lied about her age.

Had not read that. Doesn't surprise. No Venmo payment from Matt to the high school girl, so I'm sure it was true love.

 

[OldFlame]

Had not read that. Doesn't surprise. No Venmo payment from Matt to the high school girl, so I'm sure it was true love.

Yet you have no idea what any Venmo payment was actually for, I'm guessing the DOJ did, but yet again, no charges, and no recommendation of charges for the state of Florida either. But you know he's guilty from reading an article.

 

[White 6]

Yet you have no idea what any Venmo payment was actually for, I'm guessing the DOJ did, but yet again, no charges, and no recommendation of charges for the state of Florida either. But you know he's guilty from reading an article.

Is there a federal law against hiring hookers and paying with plastic? Can you shoot me the statute?

 

[OldFlame]

Is there a federal law against hiring hookers and paying with plastic? Can you shoot me the statute?

Doesn't explain why the feds were investigating him to begin with, also doesn't explain a lack of referral for charges to the state. But you've got him convicted from reading an article, the 'media' just loves morons like you that buy everything they sell. You did the same thing with Trump, and you've learned nothing.

 

[lantern2814]

Thanks for clear that up. The 17 year old is said to have testified Matt Gaetz Fkd her in a bedroom, at a party where drugs were present, when she was in high school, while he was a US Representative and another female supposedly testified to witnessing it. So, you are correct. She was simply below the age of consent in Florida.

This nomination is simply a test to see if Congress is a co-equal branch and the Senate is a rubber stamp or not. Obviously, if the report disputed what has been reported and cleared him of ethic charges, not only would nobody mind the release of the report, but would be insisting on it. But, no. Just a cover-up, as the country watches, whether House and Senate do their job or just roll over as corrupt politicians.

Yet NO charges because of NO evidence. Despite your crying. If there was anything, there would have been charges.

 

[lantern2814]

I am completely calm, even happy. It's a reflection of your own ego that you think anything you say or do could alter my state of equilibrium. That's a trait most narcists have though, so understandable that that's what you would think.

And it was apparently sufficient for you to label conservatives as pedo supporters, I guess you think that accusation should be take lightly?

So what crime was he being investigated for?

By what has been done to others, he should be booted off of here for a good long time for those accusations.

 

[mudwhistle]

Where to begin. The thing is, my entire view of politics and DC is very different than yours and most others here. I no longer buy the D vs R false dichotomy. They're controlled by the same subversive powers, and on the important issues there's little to no difference.

As for the Gaetz "investigation", I heard from someone who's from Florida and is very knowledgable on the whole thing that the reason the investigation didn't get anywhere is because there are a lot of other politicians that are implicated by the activities that occurred as part of this Matt Gaetz story, and it implicates not just Republican politicians but a few Dems as well. So neither party has a big incentive to expose the truth, because it would be damning for both of them. And that investigation goes beyond the underage girls thing. It also involves drugs, alcohol, trafficking and a bunch of other stuff.*

So that goes along with what I have been saying about government "investigations"... they are not trustworthy, even when it's supposedly one "side" going after the other. I'm sorry to be blunt but anyone who thinks any government investigations are trustworthy is very naive. When they're all corrupt and many of them are friends behind the scenes, they don't expose corruption or crimes on one "side" because it would expose their own side as well.

*to be clear, and that's not even the allegations I was alluding to yesterday, there are far more serious allegations against him that are completely apart from the ones we are currently talking about.

Accusations are meaningless in politics.

I don't care how serious they are.

If the "accusations" had been genuine they would have gotten rid of him just like they did George Santos.

This is the problem with politics. Guilty before proven innocent.

 

[buttercup]

Accusations are meaningless in politics.

I don't care how serious they are.

If the "accusations" had been genuine they would have gotten rid of him just like they did George Santos.

This is the problem with politics. Guilty before proven innocent.

It's as if you didn't read the post at all.

You're not getting it. Government "investigations" are not trustworthy, it is extremely naive to think that if the accusations had been real they would have already gotten rid of him. In an ideal world maybe, where the government is not corrupt. But that's not the reality. Look at Bill Clinton. He was one of the most corrupt politicians ever, and he stayed in power. And it wasn't because he was innocent!

 

[task0778]

Doesn't explain why the feds were investigating him to begin with

My guess? Politics. Federal investigations are often political.

Yet NO charges because of NO evidence. Despite your crying. If there was anything, there would have been charges.

Maybe NO evidence or maybe just insufficient evidence to bring charges. Either way, innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of the law. But in the eyes of public opinion for some people at least, not that innocent. For instance, OJ was not proved guilty but I'll go to my grave believing he murdered 2 people. We'll see what the Senate thinks in his confirmation hearing.

I would not be surprised if there are many politicians in DC that are guilty of sexual misconduct, or other forms of misconduct. Wonder how many times charges were dropped due to political influence moreso that what the evidence was. Not saying that is or will be the case here, I know nothing one way or the other. But our system of justice is rampant with political influence and I hate it. Too often justice is not done and the guilty walk free.

 

[sparky]

Why didn't the DOJ charge him?

because the threat is more powerful than the execution

~S~

 

[sparky]

Doesn't explain why the feds were investigating him to begin with

because he exposed the feds for the corrupt collusive sorts they are

so.....the feds turned on him

it would have been classified doc's or something sexual, which is their shtick repetitively

~S~

 

[OldFlame]

because he exposed the feds for the corrupt collusive sorts they are

so.....the feds turned on him

it would have been classified doc's or something sexual, which is their shtick repetitively

~S~

Yeah, my question was to White, I know why they went after him, I want to hear him rationalize his position, which he's apparently incapable of. His whole reasoning is 'because they said so in the news', end of story.

 

[White 6]

Yet NO charges because of NO evidence. Despite your crying. If there was anything, there would have been charges.

I'm not crying. It wasn't my daughter. You should really take it up with the Republican House Judicial Committee for their ethics investigation, (leaked portions due to attorneys representing and acting for their clients) and the many many news organizations reporting.

Bottom line is, the cover-up failed early, the testimonies out there, where the Republicans think they can pretend it does not exist, simply by not releasing the report or not. So, the choice becomes a transparent cover-up, country knowing what can be expected of the new administration's top-down view of ethical accountability, or airing it openly and allowing a vote on the character and qualifications (which are less than impressive, also).

I'm just watching the show, dude. It's going to be an interesting, telling 4 years.

 

[PeterPilot]

Probably. Why? You think that Republican committee has something against Gaetz, that would have them make up crap?

Anything is possible in politics, and I can only speculate.

I realized 40 years ago that one cannot expect any politician to be an angel, or a perfect human being with no faults. What I like about Gaetz is his performance on the job. I really don't care if he is attracted to 17 year old girls if that is the case. As long as she was willing.

 

[OldFlame]

I'm not crying. It wasn't my daughter. You should really take it up with the Republican House Judicial Committee for their ethics investigation, (leaked portions due to attorneys representing and acting for their clients) and the many many news organizations reporting.

Bottom line is, the cover-up failed early, the testimonies out there, where the Republicans think they can pretend it does not exist, simply by not releasing the report or not. So, the choice becomes a transparent cover-up, country knowing what can be expected of the new administration's top-down view of ethical accountability, or airing it openly and allowing a vote on the character and qualifications (which are less than impressive, also).

I'm just watching the show, dude. It's going to be an interesting, telling 4 years.

You're 'watching the show' on mainstream 'media' through your TDS biased lens, buying everything they tell you because you're not intelligent enough or have enough common sense to decipher it all on your own. Your opinion is less than meaningless.

 

[Clipper]

Still spouting total bullshit. As usual. Bottom line, YOU have no redeeming character or qualifications. YOU make baseless claims and throw pedo accusations. YOU are nothing but a useful idiot for your Dim masters.

CLOWN, Matty Boy was showing vids to his HOR cohorts of him having sex with probably underage girls. The trust fund punk is a not only an asshole he's a weirdo. That's what Trump & his ass washers like you support.

Nice going.