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A bad contract and an energy resource that is subject to black outs. Looks like the city was looking for a positive cheap fix and it back fired on them badly. A 25 year contract? Bad idea.
Me too. I think it’s purposefully done.Morgan said that when the city signed wind and solar contracts around 2012, it was looking at long-term demands and contracted for more energy than it needed to grow into it as the city of Georgetown grew. The city contracted for 20 years with a wind farm west of Amarillo and for 25 years with a solar power farm outside of Fort Stockton, he said.
“We took competitive bids in 2012 for all types of energy production and chose wind and solar because of the competitive nature of the pricing at the time,” Morgan said. “If we had chosen a natural gas project in 2012 for a long-term contract, we would still have the same situation, because it’s all about long-term contracting and where the energy market was in 2012.”
Georgetown renegotiating solar, wind power contracts
and its a GOP mayor.
Your link won’t allow me to read unless I subscribe, I have no idea what is claims.
I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.A bad contract and an energy resource that is subject to black outs. Looks like the city was looking for a positive cheap fix and it back fired on them badly. A 25 year contract? Bad idea.
Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
“We took competitive bids in 2012 for all types of energy production and chose wind and solar because of the competitive nature of the pricing at the time,” Morgan said. “If we had chosen a natural gas project in 2012 for a long-term contract, we would still have the same situation, because it’s all about long-term contracting and where the energy market was in 2012.”can you read, I think not:Morgan said that when the city signed wind and solar contracts around 2012, it was looking at long-term demands and contracted for more energy than it needed to grow into it as the city of Georgetown grew. The city contracted for 20 years with a wind farm west of Amarillo and for 25 years with a solar power farm outside of Fort Stockton, he said.
“We took competitive bids in 2012 for all types of energy production and chose wind and solar because of the competitive nature of the pricing at the time,” Morgan said. “If we had chosen a natural gas project in 2012 for a long-term contract, we would still have the same situation, because it’s all about long-term contracting and where the energy market was in 2012.”
Georgetown renegotiating solar, wind power contracts
and its a GOP mayor.
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Thanks for admitting that green energy programs do not work well for the average citizen and that there is NO SAVINGS by going away from natural gas.
Georgetown renegotiating solar, wind power contracts“This means that cities like Georgetown, which have contracted to take power from wind and solar farms hundreds of miles away, don’t risk blackouts on windless nights, because reliable power is delivered from a grid getting power from fossil fuels.”---------------------------------------Morgan said that when the city signed wind and solar contracts around 2012, it was looking at long-term demands and contracted for more energy than it needed to grow into it as the city of Georgetown grew. The city contracted for 20 years with a wind farm west of Amarillo and for 25 years with a solar power farm outside of Fort Stockton, he said.
“We took competitive bids in 2012 for all types of energy production and chose wind and solar because of the competitive nature of the pricing at the time,” Morgan said. “If we had chosen a natural gas project in 2012 for a long-term contract, we would still have the same situation, because it’s all about long-term contracting and where the energy market was in 2012.”
Georgetown renegotiating solar, wind power contracts
and its a GOP mayor.
Thanks for admitting that green energy programs do not work well for the average citizen and that there is NO SAVINGS by going away from natural gas.
can you read, I think not, everything goes up in price, even solar and wind, even NG.
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“We took competitive bids in 2012 for all types of energy production and chose wind and solar because of the competitive nature of the pricing at the time,” Morgan said. “If we had chosen a natural gas project in 2012 for a long-term contract, we would still have the same situation, because it’s all about long-term contracting and where the energy market was in 2012.”
Georgetown renegotiating solar, wind power contracts
This quote is from my link in original post. So coupled with your quote, you are admitting that going green saw no savings and actually made things worse.
I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.A bad contract and an energy resource that is subject to black outs. Looks like the city was looking for a positive cheap fix and it back fired on them badly. A 25 year contract? Bad idea.
Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
There is nothing wrong with coaxing green eco energy. But this forced crap and the games politicians play keep the consumer in a ying yang cost crap dilemma which is also affected by other events. Gasoline was near 5 dollars a gallon at its peak under Obama. That technically destroys jobs in a system like ours. We have a 3000 mile wide nation not a couple of hundred miles. People have free interstate travelling and love their vehicles. But dildos like you constantly interfere in the joy of life. Its like being in a prison with a ball and chain tied to our legs. Upgrade housing/buildings. Upgrade insulation. Upgrade A/C Heating units. Upgrade equipment used in buildings and homes. Keep it up. Promote better exhaust for cars and trucks. But making our backyards as pure as can be with no bacteria at all on it when being clean environmentally is enough is insanity.A bad contract and an energy resource that is subject to black outs. Looks like the city was looking for a positive cheap fix and it back fired on them badly. A 25 year contract? Bad idea.
Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
The city council voted to scrap the contract altogether.“We took competitive bids in 2012 for all types of energy production and chose wind and solar because of the competitive nature of the pricing at the time,” Morgan said. “If we had chosen a natural gas project in 2012 for a long-term contract, we would still have the same situation, because it’s all about long-term contracting and where the energy market was in 2012.”can you read, I think not:Morgan said that when the city signed wind and solar contracts around 2012, it was looking at long-term demands and contracted for more energy than it needed to grow into it as the city of Georgetown grew. The city contracted for 20 years with a wind farm west of Amarillo and for 25 years with a solar power farm outside of Fort Stockton, he said.
“We took competitive bids in 2012 for all types of energy production and chose wind and solar because of the competitive nature of the pricing at the time,” Morgan said. “If we had chosen a natural gas project in 2012 for a long-term contract, we would still have the same situation, because it’s all about long-term contracting and where the energy market was in 2012.”
Georgetown renegotiating solar, wind power contracts
and its a GOP mayor.
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Thanks for admitting that green energy programs do not work well for the average citizen and that there is NO SAVINGS by going away from natural gas.
Georgetown renegotiating solar, wind power contracts“This means that cities like Georgetown, which have contracted to take power from wind and solar farms hundreds of miles away, don’t risk blackouts on windless nights, because reliable power is delivered from a grid getting power from fossil fuels.”---------------------------------------Morgan said that when the city signed wind and solar contracts around 2012, it was looking at long-term demands and contracted for more energy than it needed to grow into it as the city of Georgetown grew. The city contracted for 20 years with a wind farm west of Amarillo and for 25 years with a solar power farm outside of Fort Stockton, he said.
“We took competitive bids in 2012 for all types of energy production and chose wind and solar because of the competitive nature of the pricing at the time,” Morgan said. “If we had chosen a natural gas project in 2012 for a long-term contract, we would still have the same situation, because it’s all about long-term contracting and where the energy market was in 2012.”
Georgetown renegotiating solar, wind power contracts
and its a GOP mayor.
Thanks for admitting that green energy programs do not work well for the average citizen and that there is NO SAVINGS by going away from natural gas.
can you read, I think not, everything goes up in price, even solar and wind, even NG.
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“We took competitive bids in 2012 for all types of energy production and chose wind and solar because of the competitive nature of the pricing at the time,” Morgan said. “If we had chosen a natural gas project in 2012 for a long-term contract, we would still have the same situation, because it’s all about long-term contracting and where the energy market was in 2012.”
Georgetown renegotiating solar, wind power contracts
This quote is from my link in original post. So coupled with your quote, you are admitting that going green saw no savings and actually made things worse.
No it said the contract would need to be rewrote either way.
You know my property taxes are not the same as in 2012 either. They have gone way up.
Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.A bad contract and an energy resource that is subject to black outs. Looks like the city was looking for a positive cheap fix and it back fired on them badly. A 25 year contract? Bad idea.
Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown, Texas was a poster child for Al Gore and Mike Bloomberg’s big, bright, green agenda. They took funds from Bloomberg’s organization and went full tilt for wind and solar energy. Now the town has higher power bills and taxes. City council trying to get out of their fuck-up.
Chuck DeVore: 'Green New Deal' preview? Texas town's lofty environmentalism leaves residents with a nightmare
Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.A bad contract and an energy resource that is subject to black outs. Looks like the city was looking for a positive cheap fix and it back fired on them badly. A 25 year contract? Bad idea.
Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
Georgetown is getting ready to pay up for electricity it never used and residents are about to see the first bump on their utility bill in years.Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.A bad contract and an energy resource that is subject to black outs. Looks like the city was looking for a positive cheap fix and it back fired on them badly. A 25 year contract? Bad idea.
Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
Wind energy is a socialist nightmare and can’t exist without government (taxpayer) subsidies. Also, when I go back to visit the Midwest, these turbines are an ugly eyesore. They are manufactured in China and provide no jobs for American manufacturing.Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.A bad contract and an energy resource that is subject to black outs. Looks like the city was looking for a positive cheap fix and it back fired on them badly. A 25 year contract? Bad idea.
Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
Georgetown is getting ready to pay up for electricity it never used and residents are about to see the first bump on their utility bill in years.Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.A bad contract and an energy resource that is subject to black outs. Looks like the city was looking for a positive cheap fix and it back fired on them badly. A 25 year contract? Bad idea.
Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
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man I'd sure would like my electric bill not to go up for years, mine goes up yearly, here is MI and the only thing my furnace uses is the blower fan.
A bad contract and an energy resource that is subject to black outs. Looks like the city was looking for a positive cheap fix and it back fired on them badly. A 25 year contract? Bad idea.
Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
Chuck DeVore: The New Conservative Darling, Birther Connections And All | HuffPost
Chuck DeVore: The New Conservative Darling, Birther Connections And All
In addition to fiscal discipline, however, DeVore’s closet includes some weird and potentially damaging associations. As pointed out by a Republican source, the assemblyman is connected to noted birther Floyd Brown. Brown, who is famous for creating the 1988 Willie Horton ad and, more recently, pushing an effort to impeach Barack Obama, was supported by DeVore in his efforts to attack Democratic candidates in the 2008 presidential primary.
“Poll after poll shows it works,” DeVore said of Brown’s deeply controversial product.
All of which is not to say that associations like these — and his relative obscurity — will trip DeVore up in a primary race. Indeed, he likely relishes his current frame as a man of the conservative fringe.
Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.A bad contract and an energy resource that is subject to black outs. Looks like the city was looking for a positive cheap fix and it back fired on them badly. A 25 year contract? Bad idea.
Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
Georgetown is getting ready to pay up for electricity it never used and residents are about to see the first bump on their utility bill in years.Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.A bad contract and an energy resource that is subject to black outs. Looks like the city was looking for a positive cheap fix and it back fired on them badly. A 25 year contract? Bad idea.
Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
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man I'd sure would like my electric bill not to go up for years, mine goes up yearly, here is MI and the only thing my furnace uses is the blower fan.
You might want to read about the city of Georgetown, they have a place called Sun City in Georgtown, where there is a lot of seniors go to live out their golden years, and they say there are a lot of millionaires.
Wind energy is a socialist nightmare and can’t exist without government (taxpayer) subsidies. Also, when I go back to visit the Midwest, these turbines are an ugly eyesore. They are manufactured in China and provide no jobs for American manufacturing.Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
Georgetown is getting ready to pay up for electricity it never used and residents are about to see the first bump on their utility bill in years.Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
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man I'd sure would like my electric bill not to go up for years, mine goes up yearly, here is MI and the only thing my furnace uses is the blower fan.
An uncertain future for America’s wind energy capital – Center for Public Integrity
Wind energy is a socialist nightmare and can’t exist without government (taxpayer) subsidies. Also, when I go back to visit the Midwest, these turbines are an ugly eyesore. They are manufactured in China and provide no jobs for American manufacturing.Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
Georgetown is getting ready to pay up for electricity it never used and residents are about to see the first bump on their utility bill in years.Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
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man I'd sure would like my electric bill not to go up for years, mine goes up yearly, here is MI and the only thing my furnace uses is the blower fan.
An uncertain future for America’s wind energy capital – Center for Public Integrity
And President Donald Trump has made clear his preference, both on the campaign trail and now in office. During a rally in West Virginia on Aug. 21, Trump told nearly 9,000 cheering supporters: “In times of war, in time of conflict, you can blow up those windmills. They fall down real quick. … But you know what you can’t hurt? Coal.”Wind energy is a socialist nightmare and can’t exist without government (taxpayer) subsidies. Also, when I go back to visit the Midwest, these turbines are an ugly eyesore. They are manufactured in China and provide no jobs for American manufacturing.Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
Georgetown is getting ready to pay up for electricity it never used and residents are about to see the first bump on their utility bill in years.Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.Not at all, it did not backfire on them, since they pretty near doubled the pop in the last several years, the contract was for 2012, and by the way, it is a republican mayor.
You guys can't read, I swear. Only he naysayers do not want green.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
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man I'd sure would like my electric bill not to go up for years, mine goes up yearly, here is MI and the only thing my furnace uses is the blower fan.
An uncertain future for America’s wind energy capital – Center for Public Integrity
Wind energy is a socialist nightmare and can’t exist without government (taxpayer) subsidies. Also, when I go back to visit the Midwest, these turbines are an ugly eyesore. They are manufactured in China and provide no jobs for American manufacturing.Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
Georgetown is getting ready to pay up for electricity it never used and residents are about to see the first bump on their utility bill in years.Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.I don’t care what political party the mayor belongs to, the switch to green energy was a disaster.
NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
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man I'd sure would like my electric bill not to go up for years, mine goes up yearly, here is MI and the only thing my furnace uses is the blower fan.
An uncertain future for America’s wind energy capital – Center for Public Integrity
You know I'm done with this
Little Penelope does it every time.Wind energy is a socialist nightmare and can’t exist without government (taxpayer) subsidies. Also, when I go back to visit the Midwest, these turbines are an ugly eyesore. They are manufactured in China and provide no jobs for American manufacturing.Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
Georgetown is getting ready to pay up for electricity it never used and residents are about to see the first bump on their utility bill in years.Did the city...or did they not...have to borrow $6 to $7 million because of the shortfalls? Who is going to pay for that? This is the part socialist forget about. Local news confirmed the shortfall.NO it wasn't, only by your article, investigate it, don't depend on one article and a fox news at that.
Georgetown utilities paying for unused electricity
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man I'd sure would like my electric bill not to go up for years, mine goes up yearly, here is MI and the only thing my furnace uses is the blower fan.
An uncertain future for America’s wind energy capital – Center for Public Integrity
You know I'm done with this
That’s because you can’t be honest and not look like a fool. We realized that long ago when you couldn’t answer the questions and started diverting the subject.
