Trump Isn't Perfect

There were two choices. We call them Left and Right.

Stop being silly.

There were only two choices for RINO's and democrats. Those of us who are actual conservatives and not loyalist, haven't had a choice at all. Every election cycle since you RINO's took over it's been a shit sandwich or a turd sandwich.

Imagine, choosing Trump over Rand Paul. Or Mitt Romney over Ron Paul.
 
The operative part that you missed is "since their agents provocateur were behind it."

You're missing so much. Loyalist always miss so much.
Like why tf do you constantly ignore the list I gave you, of Trumps left leaning policies and things he supports?
You're so focus on the left, you can't even see how far left Trump has taken the GOP.
You wanna bitch and complain about the left and ignore when a Republican (Trump) does the same exact thing.

Do you even know what you're fighting for?
 
Tax cuts? cheap energy? Lower prices at the grocery stores? Who is in favor of those?

Tax cuts with HUGE spending increases is retarded.
Trump didn't give us cheap fuel. The Russians and the Saudi's did, with their oil price war.
We had lower grocery prices with Bill Clinton. You wanna make him president again?

We're all in favor of those. But you're not going to get them with a left leaning RINO like Trump. Trump's over spending is why inflation increased so much in 2021. (Before Biden's policies were even enacted)

US oil companies were laying off record numbers 5 months before the Trump/Biden election.
 
Tax cuts with HUGE spending increases is retarded.
Trump didn't give us cheap fuel. The Russians and the Saudi's did, with their oil price war.
We had lower grocery prices with Bill Clinton. You wanna make him president again?

We're all in favor of those. But you're not going to get them with a left leaning RINO like Trump. Trump's over spending is why inflation increased so much in 2021. (Before Biden's policies were even enacted)

US oil companies were laying off record numbers 5 months before the Trump/Biden election.

Go to 2:45.
 
Go to 2:45.


Regardless of how bad Biden was for the economy, "We the People" are recovering and making things better again. NOTE "WE THE PEOPLE" are doing this. Not Biden. Not Trump. Not the government on either side of the isle.

Stop shitting on Americans, you blind fool. Every time you make Trump out to be the economic savior, you're spitting in the faces of all the American producers and consumers who have to actually deal with bad economic times, that the government creates.

The ONLY thing the government has done to our economy is make it worse. That's why $5hr isn't a livable wage in this country. Why it's not a decent wage. The government, both RINO's and democrats are the reason why $15hr is now a poverty wage.
 
Regardless of how bad Biden was for the economy, "We the People" are recovering and making things better again. NOTE "WE THE PEOPLE" are doing this. Not Biden. Not Trump. Not the government on either side of the isle.
For fuck's sake yes. The government can't save us. It can't make us better. It can't make us smarter, richer, healthier or more responsible. Only we can do that.
The ONLY thing the government has done to our economy is make it worse. That's why $5hr isn't a livable wage in this country. Why it's not a decent wage. The government, both RINO's and democrats are the reason why $15hr is now a poverty wage.
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Regardless of how bad Biden was for the economy, "We the People" are recovering and making things better again. NOTE "WE THE PEOPLE" are doing this. Not Biden. Not Trump. Not the government on either side of the isle.

Stop shitting on Americans, you blind fool. Every time you make Trump out to be the economic savior, you're spitting in the faces of all the American producers and consumers who have to actually deal with bad economic times, that the government creates.

The ONLY thing the government has done to our economy is make it worse. That's why $5hr isn't a livable wage in this country. Why it's not a decent wage. The government, both RINO's and democrats are the reason why $15hr is now a poverty wage.
It is amazing how much shit you've swallowed in the last four years. Again, you voted against 2.25 a gallon gas, 99 cent eggs, 2.5% mortgage rates with 1.45% inflation for 9% inflation and 5.50 a gallon gas with 5.99 eggs 6% now mortgage rates. See, it's really simple, Trump policies allowed the prior economic numbers and xiden moved the numbers to the higher costing economic experience. Same people, same products. So why don't you stop eating shit and defend America and not the globalists.

Fk I hate you stupid cucks.
 
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It is amazing how much shit you've swallowed in the last four years. Again, you voted against 2.25 a gallon gas, 99 cent eggs, 2.5% mortgage rates with 1.45% inflation for 9% inflation and 5.50 a gallon gas with 5.99 eggs 6% now mortgage rates. See, it's really simple, Trump policies allowed the prior economic numbers and xiden moved the numbers to the higher economic experience. Same people, same products. So why don't you stop eating shit and defend America and not the globalists.

Fk I hate you stupid cucks.

You think Trump had anything to do with gas prices and interest rates? He had something to do with their increases. It was that $8 trillion he blew through in just 4 years.

Trump didn't have a policy that made the economy or the gas prices better. Just like Biden doesn't have any that are recovering this economy now.
We the people.... The producers and the consumers are doing this.

Go shit on some other country, FFS. Why do you hate the American people? Because you're doing nothing but shitting on them right now.
 
There were only two choices for RINO's and democrats. Those of us who are actual conservatives and not loyalist, haven't had a choice at all. Every election cycle since you RINO's took over it's been a shit sandwich or a turd sandwich.

Imagine, choosing Trump over Rand Paul. Or Mitt Romney over Ron Paul.
There were only two choice, as there always are for the presidency. You claim to be a conservatve, but whine about winning.

I don't like the vulgarity, but it fits your infantilizm.
 
You're missing so much. Loyalist always miss so much.
Like why tf do you constantly ignore the list I gave you, of Trumps left leaning policies and things he supports?
You're so focus on the left, you can't even see how far left Trump has taken the GOP.
You wanna bitch and complain about the left and ignore when a Republican (Trump) does the same exact thing.

Do you even know what you're fighting for?
Who did you vote for?
 
He seems to be the embodyment of Oscar Wilde's bromide....

'There are only two tragedies in life: one is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it.'

Well pardon me RINO, for wanting fiscal conservatism back in our government. You know that very thing that made this country great to start with. When federal spending was low. The size and scope of government was small. When free market capitalism was strong.

Since you RINO's have infested the GOP, all that has gone by the wayside. You've literally outlawed fiscal conservatism while saying you support it.
If you actually did support it, you wouldn't want Trump, Mike Johnson or 90% of the RINO's within 1000 miles of DC.
 
There were only two choice, as there always are for the presidency. You claim to be a conservatve, but whine about winning.

I don't like the vulgarity, but it fits your infantilizm.

What good is winning when we still have left leaning politicians? Trump is just a democrat with a republican label.
His record (that you ignore) is nothing like what a conservatives record would look like. Not even close.
FFS, even Biden didn't try to give blacks $500 billion just for being black. And he gave the US oil producers more in government subsidies than Trump did.
US oil companies made way more money under Biden than they did under Trump.

And now Trump wants to eliminate the debt ceiling and put foreigners with H1B's ahead of Americans. And you're still simping for him. And still blaming the democrats for something Trump himself is doing and has done.
 
Who did you vote for?

A fiscal & constitutional conservative. That's all I'll vote for, because it's all I support.
I'm not going to help the left and their agenda by voting for a left leaning Republican. I actually care about this country and it's future.

All y'all care about is Trump and winning the election. And you don't even care how far left Trump leans.
 
A fiscal & constitutional conservative. That's all I'll vote for, because it's all I support.
I'm not going to help the left and their agenda by voting for a left leaning Republican. I actually care about this country and it's future.

All y'all care about is Trump and winning the election. And you don't even care how far left Trump leans.
I think the problem is how broad "conservative" and "liberal" are. Some of us look for ideological differences: constitutionally limited government vs the ubiquitous state, free markets vs socialism, individual rights vs identity politics. But that kind of distinction has mostly evaporated. Trump Republicans and Democrats agree on basics. They're all in on the culture war and see the government as a tool to dictate social norms, to tell us the right way to live and make sure we abide. Neither has a problem with intrusive government, they just want to be in control of the intrusions.
 
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Well pardon me RINO, for wanting fiscal conservatism back in our government. You know that very thing that made this country great to start with. When federal spending was low. The size and scope of government was small. When free market capitalism was strong.

Since you RINO's have infested the GOP, all that has gone by the wayside. You've literally outlawed fiscal conservatism while saying you support it.
If you actually did support it, you wouldn't want Trump, Mike Johnson or 90% of the RINO's within 1000 miles of DC.
When was that?
 
I think the problem is how broad "conservative" and "liberal" are. Some of us look for ideological differences: constitutionally limited government vs the ubiquitous state, free markets vs socialism, individual rights vs identity politics. But that kind of distinction has mostly evaporated. Trump Republicans and Democrats agree on basics. They're all in on the culture war and see the government as a tool to dictate community norms, to tell us the right way to live and make sure we abide. Neither has a problem with intrusive government, they just want to be in control of the intrusions.

I thoroughly get your points on the political words and their real definitions. I'm just using them with their current meanings. Except for "conservatism and conservatives." I'm old school and remember the original definitions. And I remember what actual conservatives used to stand for.
But there is no new word or definition for conservative. Libertarianism started to take root. But then the LP turned just as far left as the GOP has. In some cases, even further left. So libertarianism is out.

Maybe it's just my opinion. But real fiscal and constitutional conservatism still means small, limited government that lives within it's means.

Which is something that almost all republicans still campaign on. And most republicans still expect those politicians to still be conservative after the election.
Where the problem comes into play, is after they get elected, most of them go right back to leaning left.
 

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