UH is the answer just like in Canada

[Delldude]

What good are doctors if you can't afford one?

Looks like they can't find one.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The OP's link is fundamentally biased.

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[Delldude]

The OP's link is fundamentally biased.

Canada doesn't have these HC issues then?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Make med school free.

Who works for free?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Who works for free?

Are you being intentionally naive?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Are you being intentionally naive?

I believe that was you when you said med school should be free.

 

[Delldude]

Who works for free?

Trump

 

[hadit]

This is the one thing you almost never hear about. People complain about health care costs. They complain about the cost of carrying health insurance. They want insulin costs capped, Medicare costs capped, etc. Various politicians pander to certain segments, but the one thing you never hear them do is lecture people on how they are treating their bodies. A good chunk of medical conditions can be resolved or completely prevented if people simply stopped being lazy and took better care of themselves.

Obesity is the number one cause of a lot of chronic illnesses and it's simply due to laziness. There is no excuse for people to be morbidly obese.

Doctors have given up trying to get people to take responsibility for themselves. One of things my Dad hated when I was young was allowing prescription medication to be advertised. Before then, he would decide if a patient needed a certain medication or just needed to change their lifestyle. After, people started doing exactly what the ads told them to do, "Ask your doctor for Fixitall. Yes, Fixitall will fix what ails you. Don't forget, ask for it by name and keep asking until he gives it to you". And, in small letters, "side effects may include weight gain, weight loss, stroke, heartburn, uneven hair loss, tire damage, food spoilage and ringworm". Patients would come in demanding some drug they saw advertised whether it would even apply to their situation or not.

My wife, a pharmacy tech, had a patient yelling at her on the phone because the insurance company required a certain BMI before they would cover a weight loss drug. She literally complained that she would have to gain weight so she could get the pill to lose weight.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I believe that was you when you said med school should be free.

for the student.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

for the student.

But that doesn't make it free, does it? Someone else is paying for it. And why should just med school be "free?" Why not every other program?

 

[Zincwarrior]

But that doesn't make it free, does it? Someone else is paying for it. And why should just med school be "free?" Why not every other program?

You asked how to retain talent, dumbass.

No country is scrambling to change their healthcare system to be more like ours. If you are rich ours is great. If you aren't ours is the worst in the developed world.
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[Dont Taz Me Bro]

You asked how to retain talent, dumbass.

No country is scrambling to change their healthcare system to be more like ours. If you are rich ours is great. If you aren't ours is the worst in the developed world.
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So that means that medical students should get tuition at our expense?

In what other areas do we need to make it "free" in order to retain talent?

 

[progressive hunter]

for the student.

so force the professors to teach for free??

thats called slavery,,

 

[progressive hunter]

So that means that medical students should get tuition at our expense?

In what other areas do we need to make it "free" in order to retain talent?

thats still not free,,

still have to pay the profs , buildings, utilities and upkeep of the buildings,,

 

[ninja007]

After all what is a little death between friends? Canada had all the right answers. Great PM (ex now); Strong military. Warm climate; superb immigration policy.

51st state

except is was all planned.

 

[ninja007]

Where Have All the Doctors Gone?

The average wait for new patients to see a physician is 26 days, and that's for mostly healthy people. In a medical emergency, the situation can become even more frightening: Twenty-two percent of acutely ill patients 65 or older who sought medical attention had to wait six days or more for an...

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The average wait for new patients to see a physician is 26 days, and that's for mostly healthy people. In a medical emergency, the situation can become even more frightening: Twenty-two percent of acutely ill patients 65 or older who sought medical attention had to wait six days or more for an appointment

Nearly 70 million Americans on Medicare, many with chronic conditions, can expect longer waiting times for medical care.

Even being an established, well-connected doctor doesn't always help. One colleague of mine, working at a major medical center in the South, recently decided to move with his family to the Northeast. But as the process was underway, his wife was diagnosed with cancer. Even though she'd already received a diagnosis, and even though they were using the same insurance company, the insurer refused to cover her oncology treatment until she got a referral from a new primary care physician.

Despite being a prominent doctor himself, my colleague could not find a single physician willing to take his wife on as a new patient. The family was forced to go back to their previous state so his wife could receive care. Fortunately, she is doing well, but my colleague asks, "How do people do this without the connections we have?"

In reporting this story, I spoke with dozens of physicians, the vast majority of whom vented their frustrations with the current state of medicine. But just as tellingly, almost all of them also refused to talk to me on the record, fearing that speaking out could cost them their jobs.

Part of what's driving this is the growing trend of private equity firms and corporations, such as CVS Health and Amazon, purchasing hospitals and private practices. One major medical group, (that would be UHC/Optum) with about 90,000 doctors in some 2,000 locations across the country, has spent billions of dollars acquiring physician-owned practices, home health centers and surgical centers. This past April, the Physician Advocacy Institute reported that just shy of 80 percent of all doctors were employed by hospitals or corporations, up 200 percent in just over 10 years.

Physicians told me they are burned out. Simply put, they are being asked by the business world that owns their practices to do medicine, at times, in ways they view as not in the patient's best interest. Meanwhile, those who cling to their independent practices are finding it impossible to hold on given the financial pressures on them.

Millions of American workers are currently employed in health care in some capacity, many in government, for insurance companies, or in corporate oversight. But in the end, it is often doctors on the front lines, bearing the blame and anguish when diagnoses are wrong or treatments go badly.

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Interesting article that places much of the blame on corporate ownership of provider groups yet neglects to mention UHC/Optum by name . . .

try waiting 2 years for an mri or a surgery