United Nations, Disband or Reform?

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What began as a way for the Global Community to keep the peace and resolve international disputes peaceably has began to veer into irrelevancy. One of the key factors in this turn is that the resolutions are non-binding, and another very important factor is that say, Bhutan and Nepal are in a dispute with Indian; which there actually is a territorial dispute between Nepal and India. In terms of voting, as each nation gets 1 vote, Nepal and Bhutan could outvote India, which is vastly larger and more populated than either of those nations; or if their muslim neighbors Bangladesh and Pakistan teamed up with the rest of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, India would be very quickly outvoted if there was a U.N. Resolution on the the dispute.

It's these types of issues that make the United Nations look less and less important. For instance... the United Nations Law of the Oceans and Seas set territorial sea boundaries to 12 miles offshore; but then supported Argentine claims to the waters surrounding the Falklands, citing the Continental Shelf law portion of the Law of the Oceans and Seas.

What I propose is that if the United Nations wants to remain relevant and become a better Global Government, then representation should be raised and be proportional to population with up to 100 representatives for the most populous nations. If not reformed, then I don't see the point of the United Nations any longer.
 
What began as a way for the Global Community to keep the peace and resolve international disputes peaceably has began to veer into irrelevancy. One of the key factors in this turn is that the resolutions are non-binding, and another very important factor is that say, Bhutan and Nepal are in a dispute with Indian; which there actually is a territorial dispute between Nepal and India. In terms of voting, as each nation gets 1 vote, Nepal and Bhutan could outvote India, which is vastly larger and more populated than either of those nations; or if their muslim neighbors Bangladesh and Pakistan teamed up with the rest of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, India would be very quickly outvoted if there was a U.N. Resolution on the the dispute.

It's these types of issues that make the United Nations look less and less important. For instance... the United Nations Law of the Oceans and Seas set territorial sea boundaries to 12 miles offshore; but then supported Argentine claims to the waters surrounding the Falklands, citing the Continental Shelf law portion of the Law of the Oceans and Seas.

What I propose is that if the United Nations wants to remain relevant and become a better Global Government, then representation should be raised and be proportional to population with up to 100 representatives for the most populous nations. If not reformed, then I don't see the point of the United Nations any longer.
Screw the UN, we should just pull out and kick them out. Enough already.
 
I'll let you know after the results of the Security Council seat vote that Canada is in line for today.
 
What began as a way for the Global Community to keep the peace and resolve international disputes peaceably has began to veer into irrelevancy. One of the key factors in this turn is that the resolutions are non-binding, and another very important factor is that say, Bhutan and Nepal are in a dispute with Indian; which there actually is a territorial dispute between Nepal and India. In terms of voting, as each nation gets 1 vote, Nepal and Bhutan could outvote India, which is vastly larger and more populated than either of those nations; or if their muslim neighbors Bangladesh and Pakistan teamed up with the rest of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, India would be very quickly outvoted if there was a U.N. Resolution on the the dispute.

It's these types of issues that make the United Nations look less and less important. For instance... the United Nations Law of the Oceans and Seas set territorial sea boundaries to 12 miles offshore; but then supported Argentine claims to the waters surrounding the Falklands, citing the Continental Shelf law portion of the Law of the Oceans and Seas.

What I propose is that if the United Nations wants to remain relevant and become a better Global Government, then representation should be raised and be proportional to population with up to 100 representatives for the most populous nations. If not reformed, then I don't see the point of the United Nations any longer.
Screw the UN, we should just pull out and kick them out. Enough already.
Save yourselves a fine chuck of change: $1.246 billion in 2005.
 
I'll let you know after the results of the Security Council seat vote that Canada is in line for today.
Security Council is the most influential organ of the U.N. A lot of History and effects from their votes, but... the permanent members hold the real power in the council. The U.N. is basically run by the United States, U.K, Russia, China, and France; but so much money to something that seems a waste now. How effective has the Peace Keeping Corps been? The Yugoslav wars were horrific, and there was still the ethnic strife in Kosovo; which the Red Cross reported the Albanians were killing the Serbs there before the Serbs began their operations on the Albanians in Kosovo.

I see U.N. Peacekeeping Missions as often times too little and too late.
 
What began as a way for the Global Community to keep the peace and resolve international disputes peaceably has began to veer into irrelevancy. One of the key factors in this turn is that the resolutions are non-binding, and another very important factor is that say, Bhutan and Nepal are in a dispute with Indian; which there actually is a territorial dispute between Nepal and India. In terms of voting, as each nation gets 1 vote, Nepal and Bhutan could outvote India, which is vastly larger and more populated than either of those nations; or if their muslim neighbors Bangladesh and Pakistan teamed up with the rest of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, India would be very quickly outvoted if there was a U.N. Resolution on the the dispute.

It's these types of issues that make the United Nations look less and less important. For instance... the United Nations Law of the Oceans and Seas set territorial sea boundaries to 12 miles offshore; but then supported Argentine claims to the waters surrounding the Falklands, citing the Continental Shelf law portion of the Law of the Oceans and Seas.

What I propose is that if the United Nations wants to remain relevant and become a better Global Government, then representation should be raised and be proportional to population with up to 100 representatives for the most populous nations. If not reformed, then I don't see the point of the United Nations any longer.


Thank you for bringing the subject up for discussion.

Any discussion of what the UN is, and why, should begin with an understanding of why, and by whom, it was created.

The U.N. charter was authored by a communist, the first U.N. Secretary-general was a communist, and the U.N., from the beginning, was designed to be a Union of World Socialist Republics.



Stalin's spy, Alger Hiss was the leading force in the designing of the United Nations. He was secretary of the Dumbarten Oaks Conversations from August to October of 1944 where most of the preliminary planning for the U.N. was done. He was Roosevelt's right-hand man in February of 1945 at Yalta where the postwar boundaries of Europe were drawn (Roosevelt was a dying man at the time. His death came only ten weeks later). At Yalta it was agreed that the Soviet Union would have three votes (one each for Russia, Ukraine, and Byelorussia) in the U.N. General Assembly, even though the United States had only one.



.... three years later. Alger Hiss was exposed as a communist spy and sent to prison. Only then did people understand why the emblem of the United Nations looked so much like the emblem of the Soviet Union.









"A young American diplomat was the leading force in the designing of the United Nations. He was secretary of the Dumbarten Oaks Conversations from August to October of 1944 where most of the preliminary planning for the U.N. was done.

He was Roosevelt's right-hand man in February of 1945 at Yalta where the postwar boundaries of Europe were drawn (Roosevelt was a dying man at the time. His death came only ten weeks later).

At Yalta it was agreed that the Soviet Union would have three votes (one each for Russia, Ukraine, and Byelorussia) in the U.N. General Assembly, even though the United States had only one. At Yalta much of Europe was placed under the iron heel of communist rule. At Yalta, Churchill, Roosevelt, and Stalin appointed this young diplomatic shining star to be the first Secretary-general of the U.N. for the founding conference held in San Francisco,April/June of 1945.

All of this seemed well and good until three years later. Alger Hiss was exposed as a communist spy...."
What The U.N. Doesn't Want You To Know





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What began as a way for the Global Community to keep the peace and resolve international disputes peaceably has began to veer into irrelevancy. One of the key factors in this turn is that the resolutions are non-binding, and another very important factor is that say, Bhutan and Nepal are in a dispute with Indian; which there actually is a territorial dispute between Nepal and India. In terms of voting, as each nation gets 1 vote, Nepal and Bhutan could outvote India, which is vastly larger and more populated than either of those nations; or if their muslim neighbors Bangladesh and Pakistan teamed up with the rest of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, India would be very quickly outvoted if there was a U.N. Resolution on the the dispute.

It's these types of issues that make the United Nations look less and less important. For instance... the United Nations Law of the Oceans and Seas set territorial sea boundaries to 12 miles offshore; but then supported Argentine claims to the waters surrounding the Falklands, citing the Continental Shelf law portion of the Law of the Oceans and Seas.

What I propose is that if the United Nations wants to remain relevant and become a better Global Government, then representation should be raised and be proportional to population with up to 100 representatives for the most populous nations. If not reformed, then I don't see the point of the United Nations any longer.


Thank you for bringing the subject up for discussion.

Any discussion of what the UN is, and why, should begin with an understanding of why, and by whom, it was created.

The U.N. charter was authored by a communist, the first U.N. Secretary-general was a communist, and the U.N., from the beginning, was designed to be a Union of World Socialist Republics.



Stalin's spy, Alger Hiss was the leading force in the designing of the United Nations. He was secretary of the Dumbarten Oaks Conversations from August to October of 1944 where most of the preliminary planning for the U.N. was done. He was Roosevelt's right-hand man in February of 1945 at Yalta where the postwar boundaries of Europe were drawn (Roosevelt was a dying man at the time. His death came only ten weeks later). At Yalta it was agreed that the Soviet Union would have three votes (one each for Russia, Ukraine, and Byelorussia) in the U.N. General Assembly, even though the United States had only one.



.... three years later. Alger Hiss was exposed as a communist spy and sent to prison. Only then did people understand why the emblem of the United Nations looked so much like the emblem of the Soviet Union.









"A young American diplomat was the leading force in the designing of the United Nations. He was secretary of the Dumbarten Oaks Conversations from August to October of 1944 where most of the preliminary planning for the U.N. was done.

He was Roosevelt's right-hand man in February of 1945 at Yalta where the postwar boundaries of Europe were drawn (Roosevelt was a dying man at the time. His death came only ten weeks later).

At Yalta it was agreed that the Soviet Union would have three votes (one each for Russia, Ukraine, and Byelorussia) in the U.N. General Assembly, even though the United States had only one. At Yalta much of Europe was placed under the iron heel of communist rule. At Yalta, Churchill, Roosevelt, and Stalin appointed this young diplomatic shining star to be the first Secretary-general of the U.N. for the founding conference held in San Francisco,April/June of 1945.

All of this seemed well and good until three years later. Alger Hiss was exposed as a communist spy...."
What The U.N. Doesn't Want You To Know





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Well, in that case then I totally support the disbanding of the United Nations; the money, energy, and time could be better served elsewhere. What to do with those United Nations buildings?
 
What began as a way for the Global Community to keep the peace and resolve international disputes peaceably has began to veer into irrelevancy. One of the key factors in this turn is that the resolutions are non-binding, and another very important factor is that say, Bhutan and Nepal are in a dispute with Indian; which there actually is a territorial dispute between Nepal and India. In terms of voting, as each nation gets 1 vote, Nepal and Bhutan could outvote India, which is vastly larger and more populated than either of those nations; or if their muslim neighbors Bangladesh and Pakistan teamed up with the rest of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, India would be very quickly outvoted if there was a U.N. Resolution on the the dispute.

It's these types of issues that make the United Nations look less and less important. For instance... the United Nations Law of the Oceans and Seas set territorial sea boundaries to 12 miles offshore; but then supported Argentine claims to the waters surrounding the Falklands, citing the Continental Shelf law portion of the Law of the Oceans and Seas.

What I propose is that if the United Nations wants to remain relevant and become a better Global Government, then representation should be raised and be proportional to population with up to 100 representatives for the most populous nations. If not reformed, then I don't see the point of the United Nations any longer.


Thank you for bringing the subject up for discussion.

Any discussion of what the UN is, and why, should begin with an understanding of why, and by whom, it was created.

The U.N. charter was authored by a communist, the first U.N. Secretary-general was a communist, and the U.N., from the beginning, was designed to be a Union of World Socialist Republics.



Stalin's spy, Alger Hiss was the leading force in the designing of the United Nations. He was secretary of the Dumbarten Oaks Conversations from August to October of 1944 where most of the preliminary planning for the U.N. was done. He was Roosevelt's right-hand man in February of 1945 at Yalta where the postwar boundaries of Europe were drawn (Roosevelt was a dying man at the time. His death came only ten weeks later). At Yalta it was agreed that the Soviet Union would have three votes (one each for Russia, Ukraine, and Byelorussia) in the U.N. General Assembly, even though the United States had only one.



.... three years later. Alger Hiss was exposed as a communist spy and sent to prison. Only then did people understand why the emblem of the United Nations looked so much like the emblem of the Soviet Union.









"A young American diplomat was the leading force in the designing of the United Nations. He was secretary of the Dumbarten Oaks Conversations from August to October of 1944 where most of the preliminary planning for the U.N. was done.

He was Roosevelt's right-hand man in February of 1945 at Yalta where the postwar boundaries of Europe were drawn (Roosevelt was a dying man at the time. His death came only ten weeks later).

At Yalta it was agreed that the Soviet Union would have three votes (one each for Russia, Ukraine, and Byelorussia) in the U.N. General Assembly, even though the United States had only one. At Yalta much of Europe was placed under the iron heel of communist rule. At Yalta, Churchill, Roosevelt, and Stalin appointed this young diplomatic shining star to be the first Secretary-general of the U.N. for the founding conference held in San Francisco,April/June of 1945.

All of this seemed well and good until three years later. Alger Hiss was exposed as a communist spy...."
What The U.N. Doesn't Want You To Know





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Well, in that case then I totally support the disbanding of the United Nations; the money, energy, and time could be better served elsewhere. What to do with those United Nations buildings?


Turtle Bay Condos!!!!!


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What began as a way for the Global Community to keep the peace and resolve international disputes peaceably has began to veer into irrelevancy. One of the key factors in this turn is that the resolutions are non-binding, and another very important factor is that say, Bhutan and Nepal are in a dispute with Indian; which there actually is a territorial dispute between Nepal and India. In terms of voting, as each nation gets 1 vote, Nepal and Bhutan could outvote India, which is vastly larger and more populated than either of those nations; or if their muslim neighbors Bangladesh and Pakistan teamed up with the rest of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, India would be very quickly outvoted if there was a U.N. Resolution on the the dispute.

It's these types of issues that make the United Nations look less and less important. For instance... the United Nations Law of the Oceans and Seas set territorial sea boundaries to 12 miles offshore; but then supported Argentine claims to the waters surrounding the Falklands, citing the Continental Shelf law portion of the Law of the Oceans and Seas.

What I propose is that if the United Nations wants to remain relevant and become a better Global Government, then representation should be raised and be proportional to population with up to 100 representatives for the most populous nations. If not reformed, then I don't see the point of the United Nations any longer.
Kick out of New York and see what happens, next!
 

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