Used to be a Republican

[rdean]

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You made a big deal about McCain and Palin's records, and then dismiss Obama's. Are you some kind of poser? You are already contradicting yourself.

Palin's and McCain's transcripts were never released. The Naval Academy publishes it's ranking because it's the Naval Academy. Palin told us what she majored in. I wouldn't never even have known she received a "D" in Economics if she hadn't proudly told the world during one of her speeches as if it were a badge of honor.

Don't you want academic excellence from your own children? Wouldn't you support them in that endeavor? Encourage them? Why wouldn't it matter for the President of the United States? Yours seems to be a losing argument.

 

[Gunny]

Obama was the editor of the Harvard Law review. It's probably the most prestigious position among University students in America. They didn't know he was going to be president. You can only get that if you are academically at the very top of your class.
How can he be attacked on such an amazing achievement? You should be proud that we finally have a president who is gifted academically. It means he is smart. That's a good thing.

Words on a piece of paper that say he can pass a test means we should be proud? You place too much importance on the ability to read, comprehend and store data.

If you can't get the horsepower to where the rubber meets the road, it's just a lot of noise.

 

[alan1]

Obama was the editor of the Harvard Law review. It's probably the most prestigious position among University students in America. They didn't know he was going to be president. You can only get that if you are academically at the very top of your class.
How can he be attacked on such an amazing achievement? You should be proud that we finally have a president who is gifted academically. It means he is smart. That's a good thing.

Who attacked him on achieving that position?

Oh, and being good academical doesn't necessarily mean one is smart.

But wouldn't you say that academic achievement is a good indication of, not only "smart", but dedication and hard work? Isn't that what you want for your children? For them to be academically "gifted"? Why wouldn't we want that for our president?

Actually, those are not dependent upon each other. My oldest daughter got straight A's through high school, and she put forth very little effort to accomplish that because she is so smart.
Oh, and just for the record, I believe Mr Obama is a smart man, that doesn't mean I wanted him for president though.
Now, about them school transcripts you seem to know so much about, you gonna share them with the rest of the world?

 

[rdean]

Class ranking means nothing, when taking an oath to preserve, protect, and uphold the Constitution.

How is it the feds are involved in education per the Constitution?

Your post is a self-serving post.

How is it the feds are involved in education per the Constitution? I don't know what the means.

It is a simple question. What authority under the Constitution does the federal government have, in controlling and funding the education of the individual states?

Still not sure I understand the question. Isn't it the states that really control and fund education? The federal government just makes it fair, or tries to, not sure how successful that it.
Texas and other states put people in charge of the Board of Education that believes in teaching "mystical creation" over "science". What stops that are votes and lawsuits. NOT the Federal Government. Right? Does anyone really want to hamstring their children by teaching the supernatural over science? This is why only 6% of scientists identify themselves as Republicans.
But seriously, wouldn't you want the best possible educational system for the US? How would we compete in the world if we didn't invest? Other countries fund their systems.

 

[BasicGreatGuy]

The world awaits this valuable information.

You made a big deal about McCain and Palin's records, and then dismiss Obama's. Are you some kind of poser? You are already contradicting yourself.

Palin's and McCain's transcripts were never released. The Naval Academy publishes it's ranking because it's the Naval Academy. Palin told us what she majored in. I wouldn't never even have known she received a "D" in Economics if she hadn't proudly told the world during one of her speeches as if it were a badge of honor.

Don't you want academic excellence from your own children? Wouldn't you support them in that endeavor? Encourage them? Why wouldn't it matter for the President of the United States? Yours seems to be a losing argument.

I do not have any big people wannabes. If I did, I would see to their education myself. I would not put them in one of the government donut factories and expect someone else to do my job for me.

No, my argument is not a losing one. I am speaking to you about law, and your retort is emotions based.

Education is important. At the same time, a college degree means nothing, if you lack common sense, to put book knowledge to work for you.

A college degree or military service is not a requirement to be President.

I recent people like you, who want to use the long arm of the federal government to take money from me, so that you can get what you want to get.

If you want kids across the nation to have a good educational experience, pay for it all yourself. I am not about paying for other people's education in other states. Life is tough. Wear a helmet.

 

[Gunny]

Obama was the editor of the Harvard Law review. It's probably the most prestigious position among University students in America. They didn't know he was going to be president. You can only get that if you are academically at the very top of your class.
How can he be attacked on such an amazing achievement? You should be proud that we finally have a president who is gifted academically. It means he is smart. That's a good thing.

Who attacked him on achieving that position?

Oh, and being good academical doesn't necessarily mean one is smart.

But wouldn't you say that academic achievement is a good indication of, not only "smart", but dedication and hard work? Isn't that what you want for your children? For them to be academically "gifted"? Why wouldn't we want that for our president?

You're dancing. Perhaps you should have taken some of Palin's journalism classes?

That no one would want our President to be academically "gifted" was never stated. Your overemphasis on test scores was merely tempered.

Academic achievement is not necessarily an indication of dedication and hard work alone; which, also are not indicators of having one lick of common sense.

 

[Gunny]

The world awaits this valuable information.

You made a big deal about McCain and Palin's records, and then dismiss Obama's. Are you some kind of poser? You are already contradicting yourself.

Palin's and McCain's transcripts were never released. The Naval Academy publishes it's ranking because it's the Naval Academy. Palin told us what she majored in. I wouldn't never even have known she received a "D" in Economics if she hadn't proudly told the world during one of her speeches as if it were a badge of honor.

Don't you want academic excellence from your own children? Wouldn't you support them in that endeavor? Encourage them? Why wouldn't it matter for the President of the United States? Yours seems to be a losing argument.

You're the losing an argument here, dude. Guess all that academic achievement of yours isn't working out so well for you, huh?

Your argument is lame. Plain and simple.

 

[rdean]

Who attacked him on achieving that position?

Oh, and being good academical doesn't necessarily mean one is smart.

But wouldn't you say that academic achievement is a good indication of, not only "smart", but dedication and hard work? Isn't that what you want for your children? For them to be academically "gifted"? Why wouldn't we want that for our president?

Actually, those are not dependent upon each other. My oldest daughter got straight A's through high school, and she put forth very little effort to accomplish that because she is so smart.
Oh, and just for the record, I believe Mr Obama is a smart man, that doesn't mean I wanted him for president though.
Now, about them school transcripts you seem to know so much about, you gonna share them with the rest of the world?

I said that he was editor of the Harvard Law Review (fact) and you could only achieve that position with a high academic standing (fact). Just curious, how could you twist that statement into "I have his transcripts"? Kind of bizarre.

So you daughter is smart. Could a dummy get straight "A's"? She may have not been challenged or her school might not have had a high standard OR, she worked harder than you give her credit for. How did she do in college?

Too many of these statements prove that for many, they just don't like Obama. Nothing he could do would make them like him. it's not that they don't see any good, they just "refuse" to see any good in the man.

 

[alan1]

Who attacked him on achieving that position?

Oh, and being good academical doesn't necessarily mean one is smart.

But wouldn't you say that academic achievement is a good indication of, not only "smart", but dedication and hard work? Isn't that what you want for your children? For them to be academically "gifted"? Why wouldn't we want that for our president?

You're dancing. Perhaps you should have taken some of Palin's journalism classes?

That no one would want our President to be academically "gifted" was never stated. Your overemphasis on test scores was merely tempered.

Academic achievement is not necessarily an indication of dedication and hard work alone; which, also are not indicators of having one lick of common sense.

I've noticed that rdean keeps moving the goalposts instead of answering any questions about his claims.

 

[Terry]

But wouldn't you say that academic achievement is a good indication of, not only "smart", but dedication and hard work? Isn't that what you want for your children? For them to be academically "gifted"? Why wouldn't we want that for our president?

You're dancing. Perhaps you should have taken some of Palin's journalism classes?

That no one would want our President to be academically "gifted" was never stated. Your overemphasis on test scores was merely tempered.

Academic achievement is not necessarily an indication of dedication and hard work alone; which, also are not indicators of having one lick of common sense.

I've noticed that rdean keeps moving the goalposts instead of answering any questions about his claims.

par for the course to all those "I use to be a republican" types

 

[Dr.House]

Just curious, what could be in Mr. Obama's transcripts that could be so important? It was more that two decades ago. No one on the right asked for Bush's Military Records. Seems that if you become "Commander in Chief", that would be way more important.

Here's where your posing breaks down...

You start off by announcing that education is the most important factor in choosing the candidate you vote for, but dismiss the revelation of what could be valuable information about Barry's education...

Then you pull the standard liberal tactic "Yeah, but what about Boooosh" in regards to a tired leftist topic of his military records...

You really didn't put much effort into disguising your true feelings... A good poser usually can hold up the false front for a much longer period... Color me unimpressed with your efforts...

 

[rdean]

You made a big deal about McCain and Palin's records, and then dismiss Obama's. Are you some kind of poser? You are already contradicting yourself.

Palin's and McCain's transcripts were never released. The Naval Academy publishes it's ranking because it's the Naval Academy. Palin told us what she majored in. I wouldn't never even have known she received a "D" in Economics if she hadn't proudly told the world during one of her speeches as if it were a badge of honor.

Don't you want academic excellence from your own children? Wouldn't you support them in that endeavor? Encourage them? Why wouldn't it matter for the President of the United States? Yours seems to be a losing argument.

I do not have any big people wannabes. If I did, I would see to their education myself. I would not put them in one of the government donut factories and expect someone else to do my job for me.

No, my argument is not a losing one. I am speaking to you about law, and your retort is emotions based.

Education is important. At the same time, a college degree means nothing, if you lack common sense, to put book knowledge to work for you.

A college degree or military service is not a requirement to be President.

I recent people like you, who want to use the long arm of the federal government to take money from me, so that you can get what you want to get.

If you want kids across the nation to have a good educational experience, pay for it all yourself. I am not about paying for other people's education in other states. Life is tough. Wear a helmet.

Education is important. At the same time, a college degree means nothing,

-----A college degree means nothing?

if you lack common sense, to put book knowledge to work for you.

------Hey, I don't want to argue, but we know for a fact that those with college degrees earn much more over their lifetime than those without. And that is just "common sense". This isn't an argument. It's a "rant". You wouldn't want a good education for your children? You call education "book knowledge"?
Jobs you don't need "book knowledge" for:
Waiter
Dishwasher
Janitor
McDonald's

Jobs you need "book knowledge" for:
Just about everything else.

How is it possible that anyone would argue AGAINST education?

 

[alan1]

But wouldn't you say that academic achievement is a good indication of, not only "smart", but dedication and hard work? Isn't that what you want for your children? For them to be academically "gifted"? Why wouldn't we want that for our president?

Actually, those are not dependent upon each other. My oldest daughter got straight A's through high school, and she put forth very little effort to accomplish that because she is so smart.
Oh, and just for the record, I believe Mr Obama is a smart man, that doesn't mean I wanted him for president though.
Now, about them school transcripts you seem to know so much about, you gonna share them with the rest of the world?

I said that he was editor of the Harvard Law Review (fact) and you could only achieve that position with a high academic standing (fact). Just curious, how could you twist that statement into "I have his transcripts"? Kind of bizarre.

So you daughter is smart. Could a dummy get straight "A's"? She may have not been challenged or her school might not have had a high standard OR, she worked harder than you give her credit for. How did she do in college?

Too many of these statements prove that for many, they just don't like Obama. Nothing he could do would make them like him. it's not that they don't see any good, they just "refuse" to see any good in the man.

Let me remind you of something else you posted in this very same thread,

The last election, I voted for Obama. Education is very important to me since I worked so hard for my own. John McCain graduated 5th from the bottom out of 899 cadets. I couldn't vote for someone with such poor academic credentials. Palin was worse. Graduating from Idaho U with a BA in Public Speaking (Journalism). It took her 6 years

.
Now, how about providing some proof of Mr Obama's academic credentials since you seem to have some sort claimed knowledge about them.

I've known many people that weren't very smart that managed to get good grades in their high school and college years because they worked their asses off. kind of the opposite of my oldest daughter. As i said before, the 2 are not dependent upon each other.

Your claim that people refuse to see any good in him doesn't apply to me, I already admitted that he was a smart man. Take that strawman argument to somebody else.

 

[rdean]

Wow, several of you people are awful. This is my last post here. Someone points out their "daughter", if they have one, received "A's" in "high school" and compares that to Harvard. Is that a joke? High School and Harvard????

Someone else bashes education of all things.

Whatever happened to "common sense"?

Good luck and good night?

 

[BasicGreatGuy]

Palin's and McCain's transcripts were never released. The Naval Academy publishes it's ranking because it's the Naval Academy. Palin told us what she majored in. I wouldn't never even have known she received a "D" in Economics if she hadn't proudly told the world during one of her speeches as if it were a badge of honor.

Don't you want academic excellence from your own children? Wouldn't you support them in that endeavor? Encourage them? Why wouldn't it matter for the President of the United States? Yours seems to be a losing argument.

I do not have any big people wannabes. If I did, I would see to their education myself. I would not put them in one of the government donut factories and expect someone else to do my job for me.

No, my argument is not a losing one. I am speaking to you about law, and your retort is emotions based.

Education is important. At the same time, a college degree means nothing, if you lack common sense, to put book knowledge to work for you.

A college degree or military service is not a requirement to be President.

I recent people like you, who want to use the long arm of the federal government to take money from me, so that you can get what you want to get.

If you want kids across the nation to have a good educational experience, pay for it all yourself. I am not about paying for other people's education in other states. Life is tough. Wear a helmet.

Education is important. At the same time, a college degree means nothing,

-----A college degree means nothing?

if you lack common sense, to put book knowledge to work for you.

------Hey, I don't want to argue, but we know for a fact that those with college degrees earn much more over their lifetime than those without. And that is just "common sense". This isn't an argument. It's a "rant". You wouldn't want a good education for your children? You call education "book knowledge"?
Jobs you don't need "book knowledge" for:
Waiter
Dishwasher
Janitor
McDonald's

Jobs you need "book knowledge" for:
Just about everything else.

How is it possible that anyone would argue AGAINST education?

I am not arguing against education. I am arguing against your argument of force via the federal government. And yes, a college degree means nothing, if you don't have any common sense to make said degree applicable in your professional life.

Why did you feel a need to give people on here your resume? It doesn't make what you have said thus far, true.

 

[alan1]

Palin's and McCain's transcripts were never released. The Naval Academy publishes it's ranking because it's the Naval Academy. Palin told us what she majored in. I wouldn't never even have known she received a "D" in Economics if she hadn't proudly told the world during one of her speeches as if it were a badge of honor.

Don't you want academic excellence from your own children? Wouldn't you support them in that endeavor? Encourage them? Why wouldn't it matter for the President of the United States? Yours seems to be a losing argument.

I do not have any big people wannabes. If I did, I would see to their education myself. I would not put them in one of the government donut factories and expect someone else to do my job for me.

No, my argument is not a losing one. I am speaking to you about law, and your retort is emotions based.

Education is important. At the same time, a college degree means nothing, if you lack common sense, to put book knowledge to work for you.

A college degree or military service is not a requirement to be President.

I recent people like you, who want to use the long arm of the federal government to take money from me, so that you can get what you want to get.

If you want kids across the nation to have a good educational experience, pay for it all yourself. I am not about paying for other people's education in other states. Life is tough. Wear a helmet.

Education is important. At the same time, a college degree means nothing,

-----A college degree means nothing?

if you lack common sense, to put book knowledge to work for you.

------Hey, I don't want to argue, but we know for a fact that those with college degrees earn much more over their lifetime than those without. And that is just "common sense". This isn't an argument. It's a "rant". You wouldn't want a good education for your children? You call education "book knowledge"?
Jobs you don't need "book knowledge" for:
Waiter
Dishwasher
Janitor
McDonald's

Jobs you need "book knowledge" for:
Just about everything else.

How is it possible that anyone would argue AGAINST education?

Nobody is arguing against education. You are putting forth another strawman.

Now, about needing "book knowledge" to acquire gainful employment, you are wrong again. Does Bill Gates have a college degree? (the answer would be no). On a personal level, the VP of the IT department I work in (a Fortune 500 company) doesn't have a college degree. Trust me, she didn't get that job just because she has nice tits (which she does).

 

[xsited1]

I'm a veteran of the 3d Battalion 16th Field Artillery, 8th Infantry Division. I worked first as an 82C (forward observer) then I worked in Military Intelligence where I received the Army Commendation Medal.
I attended Roosevelt University on the GI bill and I have been designing labratory testing equipment for the last 15 years. I have three patents and one piece of equipment I designed is used by companies all over he world to test and rate the flammability of plastics.

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I use Laboratory testing equipment all the time in the Semiconductor business. I can't say I've ever used 'Labratory' testing equipment.

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[alan1]

Wow, several of you people are awful. This is my last post here. Someone points out their "daughter", if they have one, received "A's" in "high school" and compares that to Harvard. Is that a joke? High School and Harvard????

Someone else bashes education of all things.

Whatever happened to "common sense"?

Good luck and good night?

Don't let the door hit ya where nature split ya -- on yer way out.
Seems you've been bitch slapped from here to eternity. Try to not run into a room full of armed people when you've only got blanks in the chamber.

 

[KittenKoder]

Wow, several of you people are awful. This is my last post here. Someone points out their "daughter", if they have one, received "A's" in "high school" and compares that to Harvard. Is that a joke? High School and Harvard????

Someone else bashes education of all things.

Whatever happened to "common sense"?

Good luck and good night?

If you can't swim with sharks, don't go fishing.

 

[alan1]

I'm a veteran of the 3d Battalion 16th Field Artillery, 8th Infantry Division. I worked first as an 82C (forward observer) then I worked in Military Intelligence where I received the Army Commendation Medal.
I attended Roosevelt University on the GI bill and I have been designing labratory testing equipment for the last 15 years. I have three patents and one piece of equipment I designed is used by companies all over he world to test and rate the flammability of plastics.

...

I use Laboratory testing equipment all the time in the Semiconductor business. I can't say I've ever used 'Labratory' testing equipment.

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Yer so helpful to the feeble minded. I think you deserve a Commendation Medal.