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I did.
Are you going to answer my question or keep dodging. The science isn’t settled, little man.

Here is some more science

:lol:

Did you just read it right now and realize it was about how a community of scientists, doctors, patients and parents came together to debunk some junk science from someone who isn't a doctor and made up a term, rapid onset gender dysphoria, that doesnt actually exist but was used by right wing bigots to stoke hate?
 
:lol:

Did you just read it right now and realize it was about how a community of scientists, doctors, patients and parents came together to debunk some junk science from someone who isn't a doctor and made up a term, rapid onset gender dysphoria, that doesnt actually exist but was used by right wing bigots to stoke hate?
Didn’t read what you wrote since you’re dodging my question and posting emojis. When you want to act like a real man lmk.
 
Didn’t read what you wrote since you’re dodging my question and posting emojis. When you want to act like a real man lmk.
I'm not dodging what you wrote. I'm in fact addressing your links that you apparently didn't bother to read. The first one was about the debunked paper that made up the term Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria. The person who wrote the paper, who isn't a doctor, surveyed parents of gender dysphoric children she found from an anti trans website and asked them whether their children's gender dysphoria was something they were blindsided by and them answering yes was all she needed to coin a whole new made up term. Your second link from a small group of conservative Pediatricians actually used the debunked study in your first to try to debunk gender affirming care. Big fail there! :lmao:


Also, I don't care if my laughing emojis hurt to to the point that you can no longer even read my comments. Me making you into a little bitch is funny to me. :lmao:
 
I'm not dodging what you wrote. I'm in fact addressing your links that you apparently didn't bother to read. The first one was about the debunked paper that made up the term Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria. The person who wrote the paper, who isn't a doctor, surveyed parents of gender dysphoric children she found from an anti trans website and asked them whether their children's gender dysphoria was something they were blindsided by and them answering yes was all she needed to coin a whole new made up term. Your second link from a small group of conservative Pediatricians actually used the debunked study in your first to try to debunk gender affirming care. Big fail there! :lmao:


Also, I don't care if my laughing emojis hurt to to the point that you can no longer even read my comments. Me making you into a little bitch is funny to me. :lmao:
Dumbass

I said, for arguments sake let’s say I agree with you. How do you differentiate the difference between those who are truly mentally ill trans and male predators that just want to invade women’s spaces?

Didn’t read what you wrote again since you’re an idiot and lost another debate.


Trans = make believe
 
Dumbass

I said, for arguments sake let’s say I agree with you. How do you differentiate the difference between those who are truly mentally ill trans and male predators that just want to invade women’s spaces?

Didn’t read what you wrote again since you’re an idiot and lost another debate.


Trans = make believe
1. Trans people aren't mentally ill. You're emotional fail for needing to pretend.

2. Same way we do for everyone else. Predators make themselves known when they prey on people. Until then we don't assume the worst of people. It's the meaning behind the whole innocent until proven guilty thing.

Dipshit
 
1. Trans people aren't mentally ill. You're emotional fail for needing to pretend.

2. Same way we do for everyone else. Predators make themselves known when they prey on people. Until then we don't assume the worst of people. It's the meaning behind the whole innocent until proven guilty thing.

Dipshit

What about White people who identify as black. Are they mentally ill?
 
1. Trans people aren't mentally ill. You're emotional fail for needing to pretend.

2. Same way we do for everyone else. Predators make themselves known when they prey on people. Until then we don't assume the worst of people. It's the meaning behind the whole innocent until proven guilty thing.

Dipshit
1) OF COURSE THEY ARE. It’s called gender dysphoria

2) So we don’t. Hahahahah we just let em into women’s spaces have em abuse women and then arrest em.

You truly are a pathetic defect.

You don’t know what a woman is

 
1) OF COURSE THEY ARE. It’s called gender dysphoria
Gender dysphoria and trans aren't the same thing. Gender dysphoria is something done trans people suffer from in varying degrees that might lead to mental illnesses like depression.
2) So we don’t. Hahahahah we just let em into women’s spaces have em abuse women and then arrest em.
I don't assume they're abusing anyone. You need to make assumptions for the sake of your argument.
You truly are a pathetic defect.
You truly are incapable of a rational argument. :lol:
You don’t know what a woman is


I'm not the one confused by the science.
 
Rachel Dolezal - Wikipedia

Did you really forget about this bitch?

I think she was just a grifter and a liar…not mentally ill.
Well see. There you go. I mean if simply pretending you were something you're not was a sign of mental illness then what would that say about the posters here who think themselves capable of mental health diagnosis?
Like white message board posters who claim they are black. Probably not mentally ill…just sorta cornball and beta. Like they wish they were cucked by Shaq.
Let's get my claim right at least. I'm black and asian by way of the Caribbean, you need to pretend you know better for some reason. :lol:
 
Gender dysphoria and trans aren't the same thing. Gender dysphoria is something done trans people suffer from in varying degrees that might lead to mental illnesses like depression.

I don't assume they're abusing anyone. You need to make assumptions for the sake of your argument.

You truly are incapable of a rational argument. :lol:

I'm not the one confused by the science.
1) Yes all trans suffer from gender dysphoria
2) No we are discussing those that intentionally lie they are trans since all you have to do is say so in your warped world and abuse women. You are OK with being reactive versus proactive just to be politically correct aka woke

You lost another debate

Trans = Make believe
 
Well see. There you go. I mean if simply pretending you were something you're not was a sign of mental illness then what would that say about the posters here who think themselves capable of mental health diagnosis?

Let's get my claim right at least. I'm black and asian by way of the Caribbean, you need to pretend you know better for some reason. :lol:

I have seen enough of Dolezal. She appears to just be a grifter. She does not ACTUALLY THINK SHE IS BLACK.

Her parents are white of German, Czech, and Swedish origin. Dolezal was born as a blue-eyed blonde with straight hair. SHE KNOWS SHE IS NOT BLACK.


White posters who pretend to be black are not grifters?
 
I have seen enough of Dolezal. She appears to just be a grifter. She does not ACTUALLY THINK SHE IS BLACK.

Her parents are white of German, Czech, and Swedish origin. Dolezal was born as a blue-eyed blonde with straight hair. SHE KNOWS SHE IS NOT BLACK.
No shit. :dunno: Try connecting to that to a rational point.
White posters who pretend to be black are not grifters?
Which ones do you have evidence of instead of fantasies of? :duuno:
 
1) Yes all trans suffer from gender dysphoria
2) No we are discussing those that intentionally lie they are trans since all you have to do is say so in your warped world and abuse women. You are OK with being reactive versus proactive just to be politically correct aka woke

You lost another debate

Trans = Make believe
1. Nope.

2. I'm not okay with anyone abusing women.

3. You're the one who voted for an adjudicated sex abuser.
 
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1. Nope.

2. I'm not okay with anyone abusing women.

3. You're the one who voted for an adjudicated sex abuser.
1) Yes

2) Obviously you are and you don’t even know what a woman is

3) Civil trial in lib NYC, who consider Luigi a hero and Penny a villain. Dismissed as stupid.

Trans = make believe

You lost another debate
 
Tobacco and smoking are short term risk taking behaviors, not healthcare, I thought that went without saying. Apparently not. We don't typically allow adults to supply minors with harmful substances and for good reason. They're harmful. The one exception we make really is for the medical community. We allow them to dose children with toxic chemical and radiation. We allow them to perform mastectomies on young girls to fight cancer. None of you seem to be confused on the difference in this regard but here you let you bigotry and ignorance lead you to irrational arguments.
Incorrect, tobacco is a long-term risk taking behavior, not a short-term one, so again I must ask you, why do we restrict children from using tobacco, since, as you claim, their brains are fully capable of making fully informed long-term risk analyses?
Well, you kind of need to know the cause if you hope to treat it. You, sitting comfortably from your couch get to roll around in ignorance but the professionals who have to care for the people who are suffering don't have that luxury.
Yes, and since other people groups have experienced worse from society and not resorted to suicide, you can't blithely blame their high rates on the way they are treated.
What? Are you connecting coherent points here?

Your own stated ignorance and lack of desire to understand any of their underlying issues negates your point.

How can you know any of that before I even link to a study? Why do you all feel the need to fantasize at me rather than responding with reason? :dunno: :lol:

Okay, so 12 months. That's not really a very long time.
If you want to make an argument about a particular study you have to link to it. If you want to argue that average people are facing the sort of discrimination and hate trans people do under the same sort of circumstances then provide that evidence. All the evidence I've seen shows how this tiny community faces violence and discrimination without much of a support group.
African Americans suffered worse violence and discrimination for much longer without correspondingly high suicide rates. Chinese immigrants to this country suffered worse violence and discrimination without correspondingly high suicide rates. From their experience alone, you cannot make the case that the high suicide rates in the trans community is solely to be blamed on discrimination. No, there's something much bigger at play here, and we're papering over it, pretending we're solving problems when we're not.
Or not trying to deny them healthcare because of your own ignorance and bigotry.
Not denying them anything, merely letting them become mature enough to make a fully formed, adult decision.
It doesn't. One case from a previous century in no way indicates that's often the case today. You don't seem to understand how reason and logic work.
It illustrates the basis on which to make the reasoned argument that it is likely to happen. I do not believe that psychology from 100 in the future will still consider this level of hormonal and surgical messing with teenagers' bodies to be the best way to address their depression and feelings about their bodies.
It's still an argument based on a logical fallacy.
On the contrary, one that you can't refute. You've provided no logical or reasoned argument that we will still be removing developing teenagers' sexual organs as the best treatment. You've basically not moved past the "NUH-UH" stage.
Its fanstasy and cosplay.
Which is a really stupid thing to say if you're attempting to make others believe you know what you're talking about.
I'm guessing in 100 years we will be able to do it with gene editing.
Again, after a person has become an adult and agrees to lose their ability to reproduce and have a normal sex life.
 
Not if you are a poor male in Canada. You are born to be suppressed because you are viewed as a potential problem for the SIC just as American men in the U.S have shown as they elected a man determined to clean up your system.
Trump is not going to clean up this system. He's going to make it dirtier. Where in the FUCK do you get the idea that Donald Trump is some kind of mother fucking savior?
 

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