Was Trump Lying about Trade Negotiations with China?

[TemplarKormac]

Apparently not. According to South Korean reporter Kang Tae-hwa, a Chinese trade delegation was spotted on April 24th (several days ago) entering the Treasury building next to the White House, not long after Trump commented he had discussed trade "many times" with Chinese President Xi Jinping. China demanded that any photos be deleted from smartphones of reporters. China, at least to the public, has repeatedly denied any discussions taking place between Beijing and the Trump Administration.

"It was confirmed on the 24th (local time) that the United States and China have begun behind-the-scenes contacts in relation to the 'tariff war' waged by US President Donald Trump.

When asked the day before whether he was in direct contact with China, President Trump answered, “We are in direct contact with China every day,” but did not mention specific communication channels with China. He also hinted at the possibility of lowering tariffs on China, which stand at 145%, and said that an agreement could be reached “within two to three weeks.”

[단독]물밑 접촉 부인하더니…中고위인사, 美재무부 직접 찾아갔다 | 중앙일보

외교 소식통은 중앙일보에 "미·중 양국의 재무부 채널이 실제로 가동되고 있다는 점은 양국 모두가 현재의 보복성 관세로 인한 국내외적 압박이 임계점에 이르렀다는 점이 확인된 의미"라며 "양측의 물밑 협상 결과에 관세 전쟁의 중대한 전환점이 될 수 있다"고 전망했다. 그러면서 "이번 관세 전쟁이 양국 정상들이 직접 등판한 자존심 싸움 양상으로 진행되고 있기 때문에 일종의 ‘윈윈 구조’를 만들기가 쉽지 않을 수 있다"며 "중국 측이 이날 미국 재무부로 직접 찾아간 사실 자체가 중국의 입장에선 극도로 민감한 사안이 될 수 있다"고...

www.joongang.co.kr

 

[kyzr]

Ok, so Chinese state media is lying. Shocking.

 

[konradv]

Ok, so Chinese state media is lying. Shocking.

The truth is probably that they’re both lying.

 

[Godboy]

The truth is probably that they’re both lying.

How can they both be lying if one is saying they are in talks and the other says they are not? Youre fuckin stupid.

 

[HikerGuy83]

The truth is probably that they’re both lying.

Using the terms truth and probably in the same sentence means you don't understand either.

 

[Godboy]

Using the term truth and probably in the same sentence means you don't understand either.

US says "we are in trade talks", China says "we are not in trade talks", konradv says "they are both lying". He is obviously a very confused and low IQ poster.

 

[konradv]

Using the term truth and probably in the same sentence means you don't understand either.

I understand that Trump is either a liar or demented, when he claims to be suing a law firm that’s actually suing him! So, if things get confused, blame the Grifter-in-Chief.

 

[konradv]

How can they both be lying if one is saying they are in talks and the other says they are not?

It’s The Weave. Are you losing faith?!

 

[Godboy]

It’s The Weave. Are you losing faith?!

Apple is leaving China and moving all production to India, along with a shitload of other companies. There are mass layoffs in China. Product is being either sold at scrap prices, or sometimes just given away. Orders have been paused and shipping containers are piled up at China ports. They have a 145% tariff on 15% of their global exports.

...but your position is that "China doesnt care at all. China isnt even talking to the US about ending the trade war." Youre a fuckin idiot if you believe that China isnt talking to the US behind closed doors. Their god damn economy is going to collapse and all the strides theyve made the past few decades are being wiped away. OF COURSE they are talking to the US! Theyd have to be fucking crazy not to.

 

[Mac1958]

The truth is probably that they’re both lying.

Yep. You can't believe either one now, sadly.

 

[konradv]

Apple is leaving China and moving all production to India, along with a shitload of other companies. There are mass layoffs in China. Product is being either sold at scrap prices, or sometimes just given away. Orders have been paused and shipping containers are piled up at China ports. They have a 145% tariff on 15% of their global exports.

...but your position is that "China doesnt care at all. China isnt even talking to the US about ending the trade war." Youre a fuckin idiot if you believe that China isnt talking to the US behind closed doors. Their god damn economy is going to collapse and all the strides theyve made the past few decades are being wiped away. OF COURSE they are talking to the US! Theyd have to be fucking crazy not to.

I didn’t say anything of the sort beyond that they’re both lying. Are you new to international negotiations? Everybody lies.

 

[MagicMike]

The truth is probably that they’re both lying.

Think about what is most probable.
Probability favors the lie being told by the guy who is a convicted felon with over 30,000 documented lies already on record.
It's a no-brainer.

 

[Godboy]

I didn’t say anything of the sort beyond that they’re both lying. Are you new to international negotiations? Everybody lies.

If its a given that everyone lies, then why are you bothering to post the obvious? Are you going to tell us that they also use their tongues when they speak? That they use their eyes to see stuff?

Dont backtrack now. You made your dumb troll post, now you have to live with being mocked for being stupid.

 

[1srelluc]

It goes right back to the whole "saving face" thing with the Chi-Coms and Xi's own weakening position within China.

If they are in talks as the S. Korean reporter suggests, then it's a good thing.

 

[konradv]

If its a given that everyone lies, then why are you bothering to post the obvious? Are you going to tell us that they also use their tongues when they speak? That they use their eyes to see stuff?

Dont backtrack now. You made your dumb troll post, now you have to live with being mocked for being stupid.

I post to counter the lies as in ‘MAGA lies’. I thought that was obvious! You’re free to dispute my posts, but saying I shouldn’t post just shows MAGA’s fascist bent.

 

[konradv]

Yep. You can't believe either one now, sadly.

Cut from the same cloth.

 

[berg80]

Ok, so Chinese state media is lying. Shocking.

When he refused to identify exactly who was meeting......



..........was it because no one really was, or because he didn't know?

 

[konradv]

When he refused to identify exactly who was meeting......



..........was it because no one really was, or because he didn't know?

Were Putin and the Easter Bunny there too?

 

[berg80]

Were Putin and the Easter Bunny there too?

One would think, with the world watching, if low level talks were actually happening the WH would put out a press release to that affect. Naming who in the regime and who from China was involved. Not relying on a dubious report from a S. Korean publication.

 

[Marener]

Apparently not. According to South Korean reporter Kang Tae-hwa, a Chinese trade delegation was spotted on April 24th (several days ago) entering the Treasury building next to the White House, not long after Trump commented he had discussed trade "many times" with Chinese President Xi Jinping. China demanded that any photos be deleted from smartphones of reporters. China, at least to the public, has repeatedly denied any discussions taking place between Beijing and the Trump Administration.

"It was confirmed on the 24th (local time) that the United States and China have begun behind-the-scenes contacts in relation to the 'tariff war' waged by US President Donald Trump.

When asked the day before whether he was in direct contact with China, President Trump answered, “We are in direct contact with China every day,” but did not mention specific communication channels with China. He also hinted at the possibility of lowering tariffs on China, which stand at 145%, and said that an agreement could be reached “within two to three weeks.”
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[단독]물밑 접촉 부인하더니…中고위인사, 美재무부 직접 찾아갔다 | 중앙일보

외교 소식통은 중앙일보에 "미·중 양국의 재무부 채널이 실제로 가동되고 있다는 점은 양국 모두가 현재의 보복성 관세로 인한 국내외적 압박이 임계점에 이르렀다는 점이 확인된 의미"라며 "양측의 물밑 협상 결과에 관세 전쟁의 중대한 전환점이 될 수 있다"고 전망했다. 그러면서 "이번 관세 전쟁이 양국 정상들이 직접 등판한 자존심 싸움 양상으로 진행되고 있기 때문에 일종의 ‘윈윈 구조’를 만들기가 쉽지 않을 수 있다"며 "중국 측이 이날 미국 재무부로 직접 찾아간 사실 자체가 중국의 입장에선 극도로 민감한 사안이 될 수 있다"고...

www.joongang.co.kr

And you believe some random Korean website because?