Wear a Mask in Public or Give Your Godvernment $500

[esalla]

If Whitmer wasn't such an asshole, people would be more inclined to pay attention to her.

Exactly! You know, I rarely wear a mask in public, but if I enter a business, and they have signs posted, or if they ask me nice, I go get a mask. But I do it for THEM, out of respect, an not because I think it really matters at all. This really isn't a deadly disease unless you have a compromised immune system.

As a private business, on private property, they have a right to set the rules and I'll wear a mask if they ask it of Me.

The government enjoys no such right.

The government can mandate a speed limit?

I can pass your shopping cart with my bicycle

 

[meaner gene]

What is amazing is that there IS NO LAW prohibiting those who want to wear a mask from doing so.
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Again you would wrong. Some states like Georgia actually have laws against wearing masks in public. A reactio to the KKK or MS-13. These laws had to be suspended for the coronacirus outbreak.

 

[jc456]

don't know. I guess I don't care. lol

Looking for logic to prevail

 

[jc456]

What is amazing is that there IS NO LAW prohibiting those who want to wear a mask from doing so.
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Again you would wrong. Some states like Georgia actually have laws against wearing masks in public. A reactio to the KKK or MS-13. These laws had to be suspended for the coronacirus outbreak.

Why do you care if I don’t wear a mask while you are?

 

[meaner gene]

The coronavirus is about 1 micron in size, yet the pore size in an N-95 mask is 3 microns. First analysis would say that even the N-95 mask can't filter out the coronavirus. But you would be wrong.

That is all well and good, wrong, but consider this.

Who is wearing an N95? The masks we see on the streets are no better than wearing a hookers dirty panties.

Again wrong. Because as I said, masks, or even just a cloth over the face is effective at stopping the expulsion of coronavirus droplets, which are of considerable size. There was a chart posted showing that masks as source control were 95% effective, while as filtering airborne virus, they were only 30% effective.

 

[Manonthestreet]

If you infect one person, the social cost will be higher than that. So I guess $500 is a bargain rate.

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How much does this cost?

640 million in MPLS/STPAUL

 

[meaner gene]

LOL the mask gets clogged after 2 hours max and must be replaced, and the washable cloth mask do nothing.

Wrong and wrong. You are measuring face mask usage in an environment where it's used to block airborne contaminates like asbestos, or paint fumes. Not filtering clean air of virus droplets.

And a cloth mask is quite effective at source filtering, since the droplet size diminishes with distance. And cloth masks are used at point-blank range.

 

[meaner gene]

Again, why would someone wearing a mask care if I don’t?

what if I never talk?

Good point. If you would agree to stop breathing in the presence of others, that would be O.K.

 

[miketx]

So put on a mask...not a big deal. All private businesses here require a mask and there's no mandate stating as such.

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No, no, you got it all wrong. The mask does not protect YOU, it protects other people.

The box was never meant to protect you and you alone.

Well, your wrong on two fronts. The mask doesn't protect you OR the other person.

But you should learn to do things right and not wear the box. It really exposes you to people's ridicule.

Can you blow out a candle from two feet away while wearing a mask? Distancing, six feet. Put your fucking mask on.

Can you even understand that masks don't work because we are not blowing out candles here? The same air that is breathed out without a mask is the same air that is breathed out with a mask. Before you fucking clowns started "asking" us to wear masks, no one coughed or sneezed on others unless they were deliberately doing so. That kind of behavior was frown on and in come cases, were considered criminal.

But if a person is breathing and you walk through the same space they just occupied, you're breathing the same air. Mask or no mask.

Masks do NOT fucking work.

So, you stop asking Me and I'll stop punching your face bloody.

But if a person is breathing and you walk through the same space they just occupied, you're breathing the same air. Mask or no mask.

Thus, the six foot distancing. The limiting of the number of people within an area.

Hence, the masks don't work. I can walk around any store and if you don't want to catch what I'm carrying, you walk a different way.

You see, its all on you. If people not wearing masks scare you, then stay the fuck home. Problem solved.

Enforce actions on things YOU can control. When you try to control Me, bad things are going to happen to you.

So what do you recommend?

What was recommended before this became political.

We have identified those who are at risk and stand a good chance of being severely affected by this virus, or even killed by it.

We isolate those people. We all have elderly that are at risk. We isolate them and care for them during this crisis until we reach a point where the majority of the population becomes a nonfactor in transmitting the disease. That is called "herd immunity". We already know that those who are naturally immune or who have contracted the virus are very likely to not transmit to anyone.

So, you do the shopping for the elderly, ensure that the provisions are cleaned and not a threat and if need be, provide money to them to keep them entertained. Vist them but maintain the social distancing recommended.

For those who are not elderly, but fall into the 'at risk' category because of their health, you isolate them and provide them with assurances that they won't lose their jobs for being isolated. You pass a law that makes it a crime for a company to fire someone who is at risk and isolated for their own life/health.

The rest of you people go back to work. If you get the virus, it is very likely that you won't even know beyond a sniffle or two. If you do get pretty sick, then follow recommendations of your local health authorities in-home treatment.

Whatever you do, do NOT let them put you on a ventilator. Those machines kill.

Fine people who act like Nazi's and report others who don't follow their idea of what should be done.

Open the Fucking country up and get back to work!

Again, why would someone wearing a mask care if I don’t?

what if I never talk?

Because they are media fed lemmings brainwashed by all the BS and too stupid to question it.

 

[esalla]

Again, why would someone wearing a mask care if I don’t?

what if I never talk?

Good point. If you would agree to stop breathing in the presence of others, that would be O.K.

Wear your mask retard, we need a laugh...........................

 

[OnePercenter]

If you infect one person, the social cost will be higher than that. So I guess $500 is a bargain rate.

The social cost?

Infecting one person leads to others getting infected, such as the person's immediate family. It can result in tens of thousnds of dollar in co-pays. It can lead to children losing parents, and so on.

So can the flu. Are you trying to say that we all have to wear masks in public forever? BTW, that is not a social cost. A social cost is turning Nazi and turning freedom loving American's into the authorities for not doing what you claim you are 'just asking' people to do.

All laws and regulations are because of stupid actions by people. Put on your fucking mask!

Stupid people like you who destroy freedom for no reason other than your own fears. There is NO law that can force Me to wear a mask or act against My own interests unless there is a compelling risk of loss of life.

This virus has less than 1/2 of 1% risk of death.

THAT is not a compelling risk of life.

If you want to keep society safe, stay the fuck home.

And wash your skanky ass and hands.

136K US deaths is a compelling number to me, but I'm not a self-centered puke like you.

Medical errors result in as many as 440,000 deaths a year.
Cancer results in 600,000 deaths per year
Heart disease results in 600,000 deaths per year.

Those are all AVOIDABLE, but it mean giving up your rights a a free human being to reduce these deaths

No idea what you trying to say.

 

[esalla]

If you infect one person, the social cost will be higher than that. So I guess $500 is a bargain rate.

The social cost?

Infecting one person leads to others getting infected, such as the person's immediate family. It can result in tens of thousnds of dollar in co-pays. It can lead to children losing parents, and so on.

So can the flu. Are you trying to say that we all have to wear masks in public forever? BTW, that is not a social cost. A social cost is turning Nazi and turning freedom loving American's into the authorities for not doing what you claim you are 'just asking' people to do.

All laws and regulations are because of stupid actions by people. Put on your fucking mask!

Stupid people like you who destroy freedom for no reason other than your own fears. There is NO law that can force Me to wear a mask or act against My own interests unless there is a compelling risk of loss of life.

This virus has less than 1/2 of 1% risk of death.

THAT is not a compelling risk of life.

If you want to keep society safe, stay the fuck home.

And wash your skanky ass and hands.

136K US deaths is a compelling number to me, but I'm not a self-centered puke like you.

Medical errors result in as many as 440,000 deaths a year.
Cancer results in 600,000 deaths per year
Heart disease results in 600,000 deaths per year.

Those are all AVOIDABLE, but it mean giving up your rights a a free human being to reduce these deaths

No idea what you trying to say.

Epidemiology[edit]
Globally it is estimated that 142,000 people died in 2013 from adverse effects of medical treatment, an increase of 51 percent from 94,000 in 1990.[7] In the United States, estimated deaths per year include: [26][27][28][29]

• 12,000 due to unnecessary surgery
• 7,000 due to medication errors in hospitals
• 20,000 due to other errors in hospitals
• 80,000 due to nosocomial infections in hospitals
• 106,000 due to non-error, negative effects of drugs

Based on these figures, iatrogenesis may cause as many as 225,000 deaths per year in the United States (excluding recognizable error). An earlier Institute of Medicine report estimated 230,000 to 284,000 iatrogenic deaths annually.[26]

 

[meaner gene]

Why do you care if I don’t wear a mask while you are?

Same reason as if I was hunting with you. Even if I make sure my gun is rendered safe, I care if you walk around with one in the chamber, the safety off, and your finger on the trigger.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Anyone who enters a store of other public arena without a mask and yells or coughs on any other person should be arrested and charged with an assault of a deadly weapon. If the victim within 14 days of the assault become infected, the charge should be update to Attempted Murder.

So much for 'asking'.

The Nazi's are afraid and are going to enforce your compliance at gunpoint.

You too are a brainwashed idiot***, the closest any American Citizen comes to being a Nazi are those who support Trumpism, the White Nationalist, the White Supremacists, the KKK and jerks like you, those who call people like me Nazis; because I stand for democracy, and a republic which supports the Mission Statement left to us in the Preamble, and the principle all all men and women deserve to have equal rights, equal opportunities and equal justice by law and not one of us is above the law.

***Or you support the same bigotry and hate which promulgated Donald Trump into the White House

 

[esalla]

Why do you care if I don’t wear a mask while you are?

Same reason as if I was hunting with you. Even if I make sure my gun is rendered safe, I care if you walk around with one in the chamber, the safety off, and your finger on the trigger.

So you are so unconcerned about masks that you go hunting with people not wearing mask

Cool

 

[OnePercenter]

I'm not a leftie so roiting ain't gonna happen. But I WILL remember, and I WILL work to throw the bitch out. Shes destroying the state.

Michigan governor's executive order: Wear a mask or face $500 fine

Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer signed an executive order that makes masks mandatory for most people in indoor public spaces and crowded outdoor spaces. It requires businesses to refuse entry to people who do not wear masks, with limited exceptions. The governor said a willful violation of...

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Shit is really gonna change when the white men with brains start rioting

I'd be happy if the people with brains would just vote. We could crush these totaltarians if we united at the ballot box.

Clinton won the popular vote.

 

[esalla]

I'm not a leftie so roiting ain't gonna happen. But I WILL remember, and I WILL work to throw the bitch out. Shes destroying the state.

Michigan governor's executive order: Wear a mask or face $500 fine

Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer signed an executive order that makes masks mandatory for most people in indoor public spaces and crowded outdoor spaces. It requires businesses to refuse entry to people who do not wear masks, with limited exceptions. The governor said a willful violation of...

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Shit is really gonna change when the white men with brains start rioting

I'd be happy if the people with brains would just vote. We could crush these totaltarians if we united at the ballot box.

Clinton won the popular vote.

Hillary lost the election......................

Got that snowflake

 

[Rye Catcher]

Anyone who enters a store of other public arena without a mask and yells or coughs on any other person should be arrested and charged with an assault of a deadly weapon. If the victim within 14 days of the assault become infected, the charge should be update to Attempted Murder.

If opening one's mouth alone was enough to be considered assault with a deadly weapon, then you'd be doing life on death row with Jeffrey Dahmer.

Jeffery Dahmer was a serial killer, convicted of 15 First Degree Murders. My post indicated a worst indictment would have been attempted Murder. Unless proved that the jerk knew he was infected (hard to prove) and by intentionally exposing someone and seeking to kill them would also be hard to prove intent.

And BTW, Jeffrey Dahmer was murdered in prison.

 

[jc456]

LOL the mask gets clogged after 2 hours max and must be replaced, and the washable cloth mask do nothing.

Wrong and wrong. You are measuring face mask usage in an environment where it's used to block airborne contaminates like asbestos, or paint fumes. Not filtering clean air of virus droplets.

And a cloth mask is quite effective at source filtering, since the droplet size diminishes with distance. And cloth masks are used at point-blank range.

If you have on a mask, why do you care I don’t?

 

[jc456]

Clinton won the popular vote

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