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Here are some things someone who HAS read the bill (Representative Fleming of LA) says it contains:
The bill also requires mandated visits between doctors and elderly patients periodically to discuss end of life. And if youre in a nursing home, the requirement is even more frequent. That means euthanasia -- that we need to be talking to the elderly about the fact that maybe theyre using up more resources and that perhaps they should not use more health care resources and allow younger, healthier people to use that resource money. Thats the kind of savings the President wants to have. As a physician, I am definitely against that.
Theres going to be this bureaucracy that is going to determine what procedures and what treatments and what medicines are cost effective. Its going to reward doctors for withholding certain types of care that the government deems to be unnecessary care. Your doctor would be rewarded to provide less care for you and perhaps even remove care from you. As a physician and a potential patient, I am not very happy about that idea either.
Obama told the AARP that there wouldn't be cuts in Medicare, but that wasn't true. The bill takes out of Medicare $400 billion dollars over the next 10 years for things provided to seniors. Why is this guy out there promoting something when he either A) doesn't know what it says, or B) knows but isn't telling the truth? If it sucks so badly that you have to lie about it, why promote it?
PolitiFact | E-mail 'analysis' of health bill needs a check-up
FACT CHECK: Distortions rife in health care debate - Yahoo! News
It is misleading if folks think that an AP article is the FACTCHECK.ORG site.
AP is slanted left.
I find that debate on USMB goes much further in checking the two bills.
And what jumps out immedialtely is "THE FACTS: Millions of Americans already face rationing, as insurance companies rule on procedures they will cover."
This is a perfect example of "it depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."
There is no, not any, rationing care in a free society.
THE FACT is actually the following. If your healthcare provider denies a request for, let's say an MRI, you can simply use your own money for the procedure.
The same is not true in Canada:
"Imagine a world in which you're forbidden to spend your own money to obtain medical care. Imagine that, regardless of your personal needs, you're forced to rely on the government for health care, no matter how long it takes or how substandard it may be.
A far-fetched Orwellian nightmare? Hardly. That's precisely how the Canadian health-care system operates. ...in seven of Canada's 10 provinces, it's illegal for citizens to pay out of their own pockets for medical services that are covered by the government-run health care system. And in the remaining three provinces, private payment is all but forbidden."
The Ghost of America's Health Care Future Lives in Canada Today by James Frogue and Robert Moffit -- Capitalism Magazine
If this doen't inform you as to why some of us object to ObamaCare, then you choose not to see.
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So here's the actual Factcheck.org site discussing the latest bogus claims, PI. Better?
FactCheck.org
Here are some things someone who HAS read the bill (Representative Fleming of LA) says it contains:
The bill also requires mandated visits between doctors and elderly patients periodically to discuss end of life. And if youre in a nursing home, the requirement is even more frequent. That means euthanasia -- that we need to be talking to the elderly about the fact that maybe theyre using up more resources and that perhaps they should not use more health care resources and allow younger, healthier people to use that resource money. Thats the kind of savings the President wants to have. As a physician, I am definitely against that.
Theres going to be this bureaucracy that is going to determine what procedures and what treatments and what medicines are cost effective. Its going to reward doctors for withholding certain types of care that the government deems to be unnecessary care. Your doctor would be rewarded to provide less care for you and perhaps even remove care from you. As a physician and a potential patient, I am not very happy about that idea either.
Obama told the AARP that there wouldn't be cuts in Medicare, but that wasn't true. The bill takes out of Medicare $400 billion dollars over the next 10 years for things provided to seniors. Why is this guy out there promoting something when he either A) doesn't know what it says, or B) knows but isn't telling the truth? If it sucks so badly that you have to lie about it, why promote it?
PolitiFact | E-mail 'analysis' of health bill needs a check-up
FACT CHECK: Distortions rife in health care debate - Yahoo! News
It is misleading if folks think that an AP article is the FACTCHECK.ORG site.
AP is slanted left.
I find that debate on USMB goes much further in checking the two bills.
And what jumps out immedialtely is "THE FACTS: Millions of Americans already face rationing, as insurance companies rule on procedures they will cover."
This is a perfect example of "it depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."
There is no, not any, rationing care in a free society.
THE FACT is actually the following. If your healthcare provider denies a request for, let's say an MRI, you can simply use your own money for the procedure.
The same is not true in Canada:
"Imagine a world in which you're forbidden to spend your own money to obtain medical care. Imagine that, regardless of your personal needs, you're forced to rely on the government for health care, no matter how long it takes or how substandard it may be.
A far-fetched Orwellian nightmare? Hardly. That's precisely how the Canadian health-care system operates. ...in seven of Canada's 10 provinces, it's illegal for citizens to pay out of their own pockets for medical services that are covered by the government-run health care system. And in the remaining three provinces, private payment is all but forbidden."
The Ghost of America's Health Care Future Lives in Canada Today by James Frogue and Robert Moffit -- Capitalism Magazine
If this doen't inform you as to why some of us object to ObamaCare, then you choose not to see.
__________________
So here's the actual Factcheck.org site discussing the latest bogus claims, PI. Better?
FactCheck.org
Uh, that would be PC. You would do well to follow your own advice.
