When a Woman Isn't in the Mood...

[RodISHI]

I think the sex drive in some people don't discriminate as to the passion involved.

Now there is a clue.

 

[PoliticalChic]

it's like my grandpappy always told me

son, the top of every womans head looks the same

And so do the top of most men...As long as you see it as a two way street, it's cool.

 

[PoliticalChic]

In my experience, I am much more likely not to have been in the mood, than any woman I have been involved with.

Of course, we all know that good women can fake it out of love or loyalty or whatever, too.

So who really knows how often some woman who loved me, or liked me enough, did the magic mystery dance with me when she might not really have been in the mood?

It's happened, of course.

Because while I cannot say for sure what her mood was before the game started, if the woman couldn't achieve climax, (and I was in form) then something was clearly amiss.

But the bottom line is why would I want to make love to anybody who wasn't in the mood?

I mean what's the point?

Doesn't it take two to tango?

Certainly it does if you want both of you to enjoy the dance.

Ideally, it would be nice if everyone was in the mood. I believe Skull Pilot had an interesting idea in the Cheating thread.

 

[Amanda]

According to my sister "Men have to have sex to feel loved, women have to feel loved to have sex."

I think I agree with your sister. I don't think it always has to be love that a woman feels, but I think it's always an emotional need.

Or too much alcohol.

 

[dilloduck]

According to my sister "Men have to have sex to feel loved, women have to feel loved to have sex."

I think I agree with your sister. I don't think it always has to be love that a woman feels, but I think it's always an emotional need.

Or too much alcohol.

gotta drown that nasty guilt and blurr the vision sometimes

 

[PoliticalChic]

According to my sister "Men have to have sex to feel loved, women have to feel loved to have sex."

I think I agree with your sister. I don't think it always has to be love that a woman feels, but I think it's always an emotional need.

Or too much alcohol.

Alcohol does one of two things: make you feel sexy or make the other person look sexy. Maybe, I'm just speaking for myself.

 

[Amanda]

I think I agree with your sister. I don't think it always has to be love that a woman feels, but I think it's always an emotional need.

Or too much alcohol.

Alcohol does one of two things: make you feel sexy or make the other person look sexy. Maybe, I'm just speaking for myself.

No, I think you pretty much nailed it....

 

[driveby]

In vino veritas....

 

[dilloduck]

I think I agree with your sister. I don't think it always has to be love that a woman feels, but I think it's always an emotional need.

Or too much alcohol.

Alcohol does one of two things: make you feel sexy or make the other person look sexy. Maybe, I'm just speaking for myself.

No, I think you pretty much nailed it....

however a little TOO much can lead to a lot of disappointment.

proper dosage is critical.

 

[dilloduck]

In vino veritas....

I've discovered there's more veritas in Tequila---and it hurts too.

 

[tigerbob]

The Difference Between Men and Women
Let's say a guy named Roger is attracted to a woman named Elaine. He asks her out to a movie; she accepts; they have a pretty good time. A few nights later he asks her out to dinner, and again they enjoy themselves. They continue to see each other regularly, and after a while neither one of them is seeing anybody else.

And then, one evening when they're driving home, a thought occurs to Elaine, and, without really thinking, she says it aloud: ''Do you realize that, as of tonight, we've been seeing each other for exactly six months?''

And then there is silence in the car. To Elaine, it seems like a very loud silence. She thinks to herself: Geez, I wonder if it bothers him that I said that. Maybe he's been feeling confined by our relationship; maybe he thinks I'm trying to push him into some kind of obligation that he doesn't want, or isn't sure of.

And Roger is thinking: Gosh. Six months.

And Elaine is thinking: But, hey, I'm not so sure I want this kind of relationship, either. Sometimes I wish I had a little more space, so I'd have time to think about whether I really want us to keep going the way we are, moving steadily toward . . . I mean, where are we going? Are we just going to keep seeing each other at this level of intimacy? Are we heading toward marriage? Toward children? Toward a lifetime together? Am I ready for that level of commitment? Do I really even know this person?

And Roger is thinking: . . . so that means it was . . . let's see . . February when we started going out, which was right after I had the car at the dealer's, which means . . . lemme check the odometer . . . Whoa! I am way overdue for an oil change here.

And Elaine is thinking: He's upset. I can see it on his face. Maybe I'm reading this completely wrong. Maybe he wants more from our relationship, more intimacy, more commitment; maybe he has sensed -- even before I sensed it -- that I was feeling some reservations. Yes, I bet that's it. That's why he's so reluctant to say anything about his own feelings. He's afraid of being rejected.

And Roger is thinking: And I'm gonna have them look at the transmission again. I don't care what those morons say, it's still not shifting right. And they better not try to blame it on the cold weather this time. What cold weather? It's 87 degrees out, and this thing is shifting like a garbage truck, and I paid those incompetent thieves $600.

And Elaine is thinking: He's angry. And I don't blame him. I'd be angry, too. I feel so guilty, putting him through this, but I can't help the way I feel. I'm just not sure.

And Roger is thinking: They'll probably say it's only a 90- day warranty. That's exactly what they're gonna say, the scumballs.

And Elaine is thinking: maybe I'm just too idealistic, waiting for a knight to come riding up on his white horse, when I'm sitting right next to a perfectly good person, a person I enjoy being with, a person I truly do care about, a person who seems to truly care about me. A person who is in pain because of my self-centered, schoolgirl romantic fantasy.

And Roger is thinking: Warranty? They want a warranty? I'll give them a warranty. I'll take their warranty and stick it right up their ......

''Roger,'' Elaine says aloud.

''What?'' says Roger, startled.

''Please don't torture yourself like this,'' she says, her eyes beginning to brim with tears. ''Maybe I should never have . . Oh, I feel so......''

(She breaks down, sobbing.)

''What?'' says Roger.

''I'm such a fool,'' Elaine sobs. ''I mean, I know there's no knight. I really know that. It's silly. There's no knight, and there's no horse.''

''There's no horse?'' says Roger.

''You think I'm a fool, don't you?'' Elaine says.

''No!'' says Roger, glad to finally know the correct answer.

''It's just that . . . It's that I . . . I need some time,'' Elaine says.

(There is a 15-second pause while Roger, thinking as fast as he can, tries to come up with a safe response. Finally he comes up with one that he thinks might work.)

''Yes,'' he says.

(Elaine, deeply moved, touches his hand.)

''Oh, Roger, do you really feel that way?'' she says.

'What way?'' says Roger.

"That way about time,'' says Elaine.

''Oh,'' says Roger. ''Yes.''

(Elaine turns to face him and gazes deeply into his eyes, causing him to become very nervous about what she might say next, especially if it involves a horse. At last she speaks.)

''Thank you, Roger,'' she says.

''Thank you,'' says Roger.

Then he takes her home, and she lies on her bed, a conflicted, tortured soul, and weeps until dawn, whereas when Roger gets back to his place, he opens a bag of Doritos, turns on the TV, and immediately becomes deeply involved in a rerun of a tennis match between two Czechoslovakians he never heard of. A tiny voice in the far recesses of his mind tells him that something major was going on back there in the car, but he is pretty sure there is no way he would ever understand what, and so he figures it's better if he doesn't think about it.

The next day Elaine will call her closest friend, or perhaps two of them, and they will talk about this situation for six straight hours. In painstaking detail, they will analyze everything she said and everything he said, going over it time and time again, exploring every word, expression, and gesture for nuances of meaning, considering every possible ramification. They will continue to discuss this subject, off and on, for weeks, maybe months, never reaching any definite conclusions, but never getting bored with it, either.

Meanwhile, Roger, while playing racquetball one day with a mutual friend of his and Elaine's, will pause just before serving, frown, and say:

"Norm, did Elaine ever own a horse?''

That's absolutely great. Very Woody Allen.

 

[driveby]

In vino veritas....

I've discovered there's more veritas in Tequila---and it hurts too.

for two days .....

 

[Cecilie1200]

According to my sister "Men have to have sex to feel loved, women have to feel loved to have sex."

I think I agree with your sister. I don't think it always has to be love that a woman feels, but I think it's always an emotional need.

Or too much alcohol.

Well, when you get right down to it, I think it always involves an emotional need for men, too. Any man who tries to tell me that having sex with a woman isn't at least in part about feeling attractive and desirable is a liar. And for some women, sometimes, that's the only emotional need sex is about, too.

 

[Said1]

And sometimes people are just horny. I know I expect total submission, why shouldn't I?

 

[Cecilie1200]

And sometimes people are just horny. I know I expect total submission, why shouldn't I?

You can always masturbate. If you're getting involved with another person sexually, the need to feel desirable and attractive is going to come into it at least a little. As for "total submission", you think that isn't an emotional need in and of itself?

 

[Said1]

And sometimes people are just horny. I know I expect total submission, why shouldn't I?

You can always masturbate. If you're getting involved with another person sexually, the need to feel desirable and attractive is going to come into it at least a little. As for "total submission", you think that isn't an emotional need in and of itself?

Not for me. When I say take your pants off, he better do it.

 

[dilloduck]

And sometimes people are just horny. I know I expect total submission, why shouldn't I?

You can always masturbate. If you're getting involved with another person sexually, the need to feel desirable and attractive is going to come into it at least a little. As for "total submission", you think that isn't an emotional need in and of itself?

Not for me. When I say take your pants off, he better do it.

I'll vouch for her on that one !

 

[Cecilie1200]

And sometimes people are just horny. I know I expect total submission, why shouldn't I?

You can always masturbate. If you're getting involved with another person sexually, the need to feel desirable and attractive is going to come into it at least a little. As for "total submission", you think that isn't an emotional need in and of itself?

Not for me. When I say take your pants off, he better do it.

Which doesn't actually change what I said at all.

If sex were merely a biological drive, divorced from our mental and emotional states, then we really would be like animals, who generally lose all sexual interest when neutered. But I think we all know that humans who have had comparable surgeries continue to be interested in sex. Why? Because it's fulfilling something more than just physical drives.

 

[Said1]

You can always masturbate. If you're getting involved with another person sexually, the need to feel desirable and attractive is going to come into it at least a little. As for "total submission", you think that isn't an emotional need in and of itself?

Not for me. When I say take your pants off, he better do it.

Which doesn't actually change what I said at all.

If sex were merely a biological drive, divorced from our mental and emotional states, then we really would be like animals, who generally lose all sexual interest when neutered. But I think we all know that humans who have had comparable surgeries continue to be interested in sex. Why? Because it's fulfilling something more than just physical drives.

Actually, there is a certain amount of loss of sex drive resulting from surgeries, varying per individual, of course (although probably less likely in men who under went vasectomies and more prominent in women with partial or full hysterectomies or procedures affecting hormone production, for example). My dog still tries to hump things, and he's been fixed for awhile, so again, the results vary.

Also, I'm curious. Don't you know from sarcasm? I'm guessing not.

 

[Ravi]

Not for me. When I say take your pants off, he better do it.

Which doesn't actually change what I said at all.

If sex were merely a biological drive, divorced from our mental and emotional states, then we really would be like animals, who generally lose all sexual interest when neutered. But I think we all know that humans who have had comparable surgeries continue to be interested in sex. Why? Because it's fulfilling something more than just physical drives.

Actually, there is a certain amount of loss of sex drive resulting from surgeries, varying per individual, of course (although probably less likely in men who under went vasectomies and more prominent in women with partial or full hysterectomies or procedures affecting hormone production, for example). My dog still tries to hump things, and he's been fixed for awhile, so again, the results vary.

Also, I'm curious. Don't you know from sarcasm? I'm guessing not.

I'm still wondering how she "knows" that animals lose all sexual interest when neutered.