Where is America's main military located?

[gipper]

Wrong……The US controls the worlds population with movies, TV and music

Yeah sure. The world knows the US Empire is fucked up.

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah sure. The world knows the US Empire is fucked up.

The world eats up US Culture

That is how we are taking over the world…..not the military

 

[gipper]

The world eats up US Culture

That is how we are taking over the world…..not the military

Yeah 800 US bases in foreign nations, a navy that controls all the oceans, and a military budget exceeding all other nations combined means nothing while millions of Americans suffer in poverty, homelessness, and debt serfdom.

WTF!

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah 800 US bases in foreign nations, a navy that controls all the oceans, and a military budget exceeding all other nations combined means nothing while millions of Americans suffer in poverty, homelessness, and debt serfdom.

WTF!

How many nations are that military invading?

Our culture is invading every nation on earth

 

[gipper]

How many nations are that military invading?

Our culture is invading every nation on earth

Lol. Where the fuck have you been these last 30 years? Are you completely clueless?

Your boy Ears dropped more bombs than your boy Dumb W.

 

[gipper]

That's why I asked you; you're obviously too shrewd to be fooled by Da Statists.

So how do you manage to get by every day when FDR is stealing all your stuff?

What?

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

The so called "military industrial complex" hasn't existed since the 1950s.

Someone should tell DynCorp, Haliburton, Lockheed, and McDonnell Douglas...and the other few thousand government contractors.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

The marine corp is the bomb detection crew for the army rangers.
They go in first without critically thinking. Thats why the mascot

Having worked with Marines in the past I have extremally polar opinions on them.

 

[Dayton3]

Someone should tell DynCorp, Haliburton, Lockheed, and McDonnell Douglas...and the other few thousand government contractors.

McDonald Douglas doesn't even exist anymore.

Haliburton is primarily a construction company.

Of those only Lockheed Martin makes more than 50% of its revenue from defense contracts.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

McDonald Douglas doesn't even exist anymore.

Haliburton is primarily a construction company.

Of those only Lockheed Martin makes more than 50% of its revenue from defense contracts.

List of United States defense contractors - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Tell me stories about these top 100 as well dad.

 

[Dayton3]

List of United States defense contractors - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Tell me stories about these top 100 as well dad.

You are the one making the claims. You tell us.

And note, just because a company makes a profit from selling military hardware to the government in no way means we have a "military industrial complex".

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

You are the one making the claims. You tell us.

And note, just because a company makes a profit from selling military hardware to the government in no way means we have a "military industrial complex".

You are the one saying there is no military industrial complex.

There is a list of 100 companies supporting military operations worldwide.

Or, an industrial complex supporting the offensive and defensive capabilities of the nation's armed forces.

So...please explain to me how there is no military industrial complex?

 

[Dayton3]

You are the one saying there is no military industrial complex.

There is a list of 100 companies supporting military operations worldwide.

Or, an industrial complex supporting the offensive and defensive capabilities of the nation's armed forces.

So...please explain to me how there is no military industrial complex?

"military industrial complex" refers to major military contractors that exert excessive influence on U.S. foreign policy in order to maximize their profits.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

"military industrial complex" refers to major military contractors that exert excessive influence on U.S. foreign policy in order to maximize their profits.

..and those have not existed since the 1950's?

 

[Concerned American]

..and those have not existed since the 1950's?

I worked for Norris Industries in the 1970's making 81mm and 60mm mortar casings for sale to the Israelis as well as supply for the US military. I would say that fits the definition of "military-industrial complex" that Dayton said disappeared in the '50s.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

I worked for Norris Industries in the 1970's making 81mm and 60mm mortar casings for sale to the Israelis as well as supply for the US military. I would say that fits the definition of "military-industrial complex" that Dayton said disappeared in the '50s.

I'm not tryin to bust the guy's chops.

I wanna hear his logic on an industry that went away in the 1950's

 

[Dayton3]

..and those have not existed since the 1950's?

Have you ever wandered why McDonald Douglas, Rockwell, and General Dynamics (aviation sector) were snapped up by Boeing? Or Grumann by Northrop?

It wasn't because they were able to stay profitable and viable on defense contracts.

The problem with you people is that all you see is the overall defense budget and simply assume major defend manufacturers must be influencing government policy to enrich themselves.

Ignoring the fact that the largest portion of our defense budget is not for hardware. It is for personnel costs and operations (fuel, spare parts, ammunition).

 

[Dayton3]

I'm not tryin to bust the guy's chops.

I wanna hear his logic on an industry that went away in the 1950's

I never said it "went away". But the idea that defense contractors exert excessive amounts of influence on our foreign policy in order to make higher profits hasn't been true for 50 years at least

 

[Dayton3]

I worked for Norris Industries in the 1970's making 81mm and 60mm mortar casings for sale to the Israelis as well as supply for the US military. I would say that fits the definition of "military-industrial complex" that Dayton said disappeared in the '50s.

a military industry is not what Eisenhower was referring to by "military-industrial" complex.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Ignoring the fact that the largest portion of our defense budget is not for hardware. It is for personnel costs and operations (fuel, spare parts, ammunition).

Most of which have transitioned (some exclusively) to civilian support.

Which further extends, and enhances the idea that civilian corporations are not only consolidating control in the government sector.

Additionally, when large mergers like the ones you mention happen, they must often be approved by the government.

When was the last time you saw the government disprove of such a merger?

Now...given your definition do you actually think there is no sway on D.C. from the Military Industrial Complex (MIC)?
What did all that money go for? Lunch?
All of those clients? Lobbyists?