Why Conservatives Are Obsessed With Erasing History-Except For The Confederacy

[berg80]

Honest?

Do you agree that this nation has had a bi-partisan consensus on equality for racial minoriteis since the mid 60s?

If that was true how do you explain the GOP nominee for the presidency in 1964 being opposed to the Civil Rights Act?

 

[JGalt]

Revisionist history is typical of the fascist right; conservatives fear the facts and truth of history – facts and the truth that demonstrate and expose the failures of conservative dogma.

Ok Calamity Boy. Take your "facts and truths" and fear porn, and shove them up your ass.

 

[Correll]

If that was true how do you explain the GOP nominee for the presidency in 1964 being opposed to the Civil Rights Act?

Goldwater had issues with how the policy was to be done, though overreaching government, FEDERAL government power.

Goldwater himself was very supportive of equal rights.


AND it is worth nothing that even so, he was CRUSHED and that was the end of attempts from the gop to push back at the civil rights act.


This nation has had a bi-partsian consensus on equality for racial minoriteis since the mid 60s.

 

[IM2]

The Constitution is the supreme law of the land. It doesn't enumerate human rights to state decisions.

 

[Independent thinker]

Photos and histories of people of color, women, and the LGBTQ+ community are being purged, and nearly every day some new erasure is being uncovered. When caught in the act, the Trump administration has offered up the claim that these cases were merely mistakes—“malicious compliance” from bad actors within the government.

But the excuses don’t pass the smell test, since Trump and his allies—like multibillionaire Elon Musk and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth—have well documented histories of open bigotry against anyone who isn’t a straight, wealthy, white man.

But this isn’t just a Trump thing. For decades, conservatives have embraced the mythology of the Lost Cause.

The right is in a quandary. It has political power, but it still cannot force millions of Americans to concede to the white supremacy that motivates much of conservative politics. That’s why it’s so driven to erase history.

Why conservatives are obsessed with erasing history—except the Confederacy

The Trump administration has spent the last month on a tear, using President Donald Trump’s newfound power in multiple departments and agencies for a goal that seems bewildering at first glance: deleting history. Under the guise of eliminating...

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Another lost cause. In a long line of lost causes.

LOL. Wow. You guys are really funny. Did you already forget you guys cancelled George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and several other of our founding fathers?

 

[JGalt]

Photos and histories of people of color, women, and the LGBTQ+ community are being purged, and nearly every day some new erasure is being uncovered. When caught in the act, the Trump administration has offered up the claim that these cases were merely mistakes—“malicious compliance” from bad actors within the government.

But the excuses don’t pass the smell test, since Trump and his allies—like multibillionaire Elon Musk and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth—have well documented histories of open bigotry against anyone who isn’t a straight, wealthy, white man.

But this isn’t just a Trump thing. For decades, conservatives have embraced the mythology of the Lost Cause.

The right is in a quandary. It has political power, but it still cannot force millions of Americans to concede to the white supremacy that motivates much of conservative politics. That’s why it’s so driven to erase history.

Why conservatives are obsessed with erasing history—except the Confederacy

The Trump administration has spent the last month on a tear, using President Donald Trump’s newfound power in multiple departments and agencies for a goal that seems bewildering at first glance: deleting history. Under the guise of eliminating...

www.dailykos.com

Another lost cause. In a long line of lost causes.

You're an idiot, bro. Please tell me how many times large groups of conservatives, Republicans, or Trump-supporters gathered in a large protest and tore down or defaced statues, memorials, or monuments?

That's the kind of behavior associated with you leftists, progressives, socialists, liberals, and Democrats, not us.

 

[Godboy]

Your evidence?

Lets go one for one at a time. I will start with this one....

Biden tried to force every person in the US to take a vaccine. What has Trump done that is worse than forcing everyone in the nation to undergo a controversial medical procedure that WILL kill certain people?

 

[IM2]

LOL. Wow. You guys are really funny. Did you already forget you guys cancelled George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and several other of our founding fathers?

Slaveowners should get cancelled.

Of course you would support Goldwater’s efforts to prevent the Civil Rights Act of 1964 from becoming law. In spite of the ratification of the 14th Amendment in 1868—which was created explicitly to ensure that formerly enslaved people and their children were lawful U.S. citizens via the birthright citizenship clause, and to guarantee equal protection under the law—Black Americans still endured nearly 100 years of state-sanctioned oppression.

From 1868 to 1964, Black Americans lived under Jim Crow laws, with many Southern states enacting so-called Black Codes designed to suppress their rights and quality of life. This includes the “separate but equal” doctrine, upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in Plessy v. Ferguson (1896), which provided legal cover for segregation and discrimination. It wasn’t until Brown v. Board of Education (1954) that the Supreme Court acknowledged the obvious: separate was not equal—and the foundation of Plessy was unconstitutional.

In other words, the rights supposedly guaranteed by the Constitution were not enforced—and states continued to violate them with impunity for nearly a century.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 finally rendered many of those discriminatory laws null and void at the federal level. But as we can see from your reaction, it didn’t change the hearts and minds of people still clinging to the same ideology that once justified slavery and segregation. Your opposition to civil rights isn’t about constitutional purity—it’s about mourning the loss of a time when states were free to violate Black people’s rights without interference.

And let’s be honest: “states’ rights” has always been a smokescreen. It was the excuse used to justify slavery, the rallying cry behind the Confederacy’s secession, and the pretext for igniting the Civil War (1861–1865).

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Slaveowners should get cancelled.

Of course you would support Goldwater’s efforts to prevent the Civil Rights Act of 1964 from becoming law. In spite of the ratification of the 14th Amendment in 1868—which was created explicitly to ensure that formerly enslaved people and their children were lawful U.S. citizens via the birthright citizenship clause, and to guarantee equal protection under the law—Black Americans still endured nearly 100 years of state-sanctioned oppression.

From 1868 to 1964, Black Americans lived under Jim Crow laws, with many Southern states enacting so-called Black Codes designed to suppress their rights and quality of life. This includes the “separate but equal” doctrine, upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in Plessy v. Ferguson (1896), which provided legal cover for segregation and discrimination. It wasn’t until Brown v. Board of Education (1954) that the Supreme Court acknowledged the obvious: separate was not equal—and the foundation of Plessy was unconstitutional.

In other words, the rights supposedly guaranteed by the Constitution were not enforced—and states continued to violate them with impunity for nearly a century.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 finally rendered many of those discriminatory laws null and void at the federal level. But as we can see from your reaction, it didn’t change the hearts and minds of people still clinging to the same ideology that once justified slavery and segregation. Your opposition to civil rights isn’t about constitutional purity—it’s about mourning the loss of a time when states were free to violate Black people’s rights without interference.

And let’s be honest: “states’ rights” has always been a smokescreen. It was the excuse used to justify slavery, the rallying cry behind the Confederacy’s secession, and the pretext for igniting the Civil War (1861–1865).

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You've already done your best to make sure that they were.

It didn't work.

Give it up.




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[MarcATL]

Goldwater was a virulent racist bigot and that idealogy of his is prevalent, if not leading, in the Republican Party today.

 

[Correll]

Goldwater was a virulent racist bigot and that idealogy of his is prevalent, if not leading, in the Republican Party today.

That's nonsense.

And this country has had a bi-partisan consensus on equality for racial minorities since the mid 60s.

EVERY gop platform since then, has been committed to equality for racial minorities.


YOur claim is not only a lie, but a stupid lie. Stupid on both ends. So stupid that only stupid people would say it, and so stupid that only stupid people would believe it.

 

[MarcATL]

That's nonsense.

And this country has had a bi-partisan consensus on equality for racial minorities since the mid 60s.

EVERY gop platform since then, has been committed to equality for racial minorities.


YOur claim is not only a lie, but a stupid lie. Stupid on both ends. So stupid that only stupid people would say it, and so stupid that only stupid people would believe it.

The only stupid liar here is you and your ilk.

 

[Correll]

The only stupid liar here is you and your ilk.

LOL. if that was true, you would have SUPPORTED YOUR CLAIM about Goldwater with some link to him pushing a racist policy.

But, you didn't. Becasue you couldn't.

I bet you didn't even try to find something, becasue you knew that you were shit talking, when you shit talked.

 

[tyroneweaver]

MAGA are modern-day Confederates. They can all die.

 

[IM2]

You guys love talking about Dr. King.

When conservative Arizona Senator Barry M. Goldwater ran for president in 1964, Martin Luther King, Jr., expressed his opposition, explaining: “I feel that the prospect of Senator Goldwater being president of the United States so threatens the health, morality, and survival of our nation that I can not in good conscience fail to take a stand against what he represents”
(King, 16 July 1964).

Goldwater, Barry M.

kinginstitute.stanford.edu

So much for the conservative right wing King you guys made up

 

[IM2]

Let me keep going.

King said of Goldwater’s voting record, “While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulates a philosophy which gives aid and comfort to the racists” (King, 16 July 1964). King feared that Goldwater’s position that “civil rights must be left, by and large to the states” meant “leaving it to the Wallaces and the Barnetts” (King, “The Republican Presidential Nomination”). Electing Goldwater, King said, would plunge the country into a “dark night of social disruption” (King, 21 September 1964).

In the month before the election, King’s Southern Christian Leadership Conference launched a nationwide “get out the vote” drive. Although King called the campaign “bipartisan,” he wrote: “The principles of states’ rights advocated by Mr. Goldwater diminish us and would deny to Negro and white alike, many of the privileges and opportunities of living in American society” (King, 9 October 1964). When Johnson defeated Goldwater, King declared, “The American people made a choice … to build a great society, rather than to wallow in the past” (King, “A Choice and a Promise”).

Goldwater, Barry M.

kinginstitute.stanford.edu

 

[Correll]

You guys love talking about Dr. King.

When conservative Arizona Senator Barry M. Goldwater ran for president in 1964, Martin Luther King, Jr., expressed his opposition, explaining: “I feel that the prospect of Senator Goldwater being president of the United States so threatens the health, morality, and survival of our nation that I can not in good conscience fail to take a stand against what he represents”
(King, 16 July 1964).

Goldwater, Barry M.

kinginstitute.stanford.edu

So much for the conservative right wing King you guys made up

Why should I or anyone care about this? Why do you pretend to care what he said?

Dr King, by your own words, in your eyes, was a complete failure.