Why crime rates are going up? Criminal on probation gets caught in crimes, gets more probation...that's why.

[2aguy]

And this is why we have increasing crime in our cities, in particular cities under total democrat party control....

The way you stop crime is by keeping criminals locked up in jail......you don't stop crime by taking guns away from the victims of these criminals.

An accused serial burglar and thief has been sentenced to probation for a burglary in Lincoln Park last year — even though he was already on probation for two burglaries at the time of the alleged break-in.

Jonathan Hernandez, 26, pleaded guilty to one count of theft in exchange for an 18-month probation sentence in the latest case, according to court records. He has been arrested seventeen times in Chicago since March 2014, according to CPD records.

17th time's the charm? Man gets probation for committing burglary while on probation for burglary

An accused serial burglar and thief has been sentenced to probation for a burglary in Lincoln Park last year — even though he was already on probation for two burglaries at the time of the alleged break-in.

cwbchicago.com

 

[Anomalism]

The conservative solution seems to be to go back to B.C times when we would just string people up in public places and cut hands and penises off, gouge eyes out, shit like that. Do you want to just kill them/keep them as slaves or do we focus on trying to rehabilitate as many as we can?

 

[2aguy]

The conservative solution seems to be to go back to B.C times when we would just string people up in public places and cut hands and penises off, gouge eyes out, shit like that. Do you want to just kill them/keep them as slaves or do we focus on trying to rehabilitate as many as we can?

Wow.....that was a stupid fucking post....

Did you read this article? The guy was on probation when he committed did two more burglaries....and then he was given probation for that one too.....

What part of this dynamic increasing the crime rate is too hard for your tiny brain to understand?

And it isn't just burglars getting released, you dumbass...the democrat party prosecutors and judges are releasing violent gun criminals over and over too...

You idiot.

 

[Anomalism]

Wow.....that was a stupid fucking post....

Did you read this article? The guy was on probation when he committed did two more burglaries....and then he was given probation for that one too.....

What part of this dynamic increasing the crime rate is too hard for your tiny brain to understand?

And it isn't just burglars getting released, you dumbass...the democrat party prosecutors and judges are releasing violent gun criminals over and over too...

You idiot.

So what should our policy be?

 

[2aguy]

Wow.....that was a stupid fucking post....

Did you read this article? The guy was on probation when he committed did two more burglaries....and then he was given probation for that one too.....

What part of this dynamic increasing the crime rate is too hard for your tiny brain to understand?

And it isn't just burglars getting released, you dumbass...the democrat party prosecutors and judges are releasing violent gun criminals over and over too...

You idiot.

So what should our policy be?

Criminals should be kept in custody until their trial, in particular violent criminals who use guns for their crimes.....releasing them over and over again increases the crime rate and keeps victims and witnesses from testifying against them.

 

[2aguy]

Wow.....that was a stupid fucking post....

Did you read this article? The guy was on probation when he committed did two more burglaries....and then he was given probation for that one too.....

What part of this dynamic increasing the crime rate is too hard for your tiny brain to understand?

And it isn't just burglars getting released, you dumbass...the democrat party prosecutors and judges are releasing violent gun criminals over and over too...

You idiot.

So what should our policy be?

And here......

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....

Mass shooters


1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....

What does each do to stop mass shooters....

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..

 

[Anomalism]

Criminals should be kept in custody until their trial, in particular violent criminals who use guns for their crimes.....releasing them over and over again increases the crime rate and keeps victims and witnesses from testifying against them.

How do you feel about the notion that criminal justice shouldn't be profit motivated?

 

[justinacolmena]

.....you don't stop crime by taking guns away from the victims of these criminals.

You seem to forget we are the criminals once they take our guns away.

 

[2aguy]

Criminals should be kept in custody until their trial, in particular violent criminals who use guns for their crimes.....releasing them over and over again increases the crime rate and keeps victims and witnesses from testifying against them.

How do you feel about the notion that criminal justice shouldn't be profit motivated?

I don't care. If someone commits a crime they need to be held in a prison. If you don't want people put in jail, or prison, change the law. Until then, if you commit a violent crime you stay locked up. Letting them go over and over again to commit more and more violent crimes is the cause of violent crime.....it isn't normal people who own and carry guns for self defense.

 

[2aguy]

.....you don't stop crime by taking guns away from the victims of these criminals.

You seem to forget we are the criminals once they take our guns away.

I don't forget that at all......that is why I post....to wake people up.

 

[Anomalism]

I don't care.

I think you should. The situation will be a lot better when the most important thing isn't how much money it makes.

 

[2aguy]

I don't care.

I think you should. The situation will be a lot better when the most important thing isn't how much money it makes.

Wrong...the most important thing is to keep violent monsters away from normal people.

Start there....then work on the rest.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The conservative solution seems to be to go back to B.C times when we would just string people up in public places and cut hands and penises off, gouge eyes out, shit like that. Do you want to just kill them/keep them as slaves or do we focus on trying to rehabilitate as many as we can?

So whats your solution to repeat offenders?

 

[2aguy]

I don't care.

I think you should. The situation will be a lot better when the most important thing isn't how much money it makes.

I laid out how you stop actual violent crime...........long prison sentences for violent criminals.

 

[2aguy]

The conservative solution seems to be to go back to B.C times when we would just string people up in public places and cut hands and penises off, gouge eyes out, shit like that. Do you want to just kill them/keep them as slaves or do we focus on trying to rehabilitate as many as we can?

So whats your solution to repeat offenders?

Thanks.......I am interested in the answer.

 

[Anomalism]

Wrong...the most important thing is to keep violent monsters away from normal people.

Start there....then work on the rest.

Maybe if prisons were run differently we'd actually be rehabilitating people rather than just making them worse.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

.....you don't stop crime by taking guns away from the victims of these criminals.

You seem to forget we are the criminals once they take our guns away.

After hearing your history I find it hard to believe anything you say about firearms.

 

[2aguy]

I don't care.

I think you should. The situation will be a lot better when the most important thing isn't how much money it makes.

If they want to decriminalize drug use, I can see that.......put the addicts in rehab. But for anyone who commits violent acts, or actual criminals caught with illegal guns, the only way you stop them is to keep them locked up.....for long periods of time. Anything else, in particular banning and confiscating guns for normal people....is just stupid.

 

[Anomalism]

So whats your solution to repeat offenders?

Try to make the process better so it stops churning out shit that's worse than it was when it went in.

 

[2aguy]

Wrong...the most important thing is to keep violent monsters away from normal people.

Start there....then work on the rest.

Maybe if prisons were run differently we'd actually be rehabilitating people rather than just making them worse.

Some people can't be rehabilitated............and again, the most important thing is to keep the monsters away from innocent people.