Why does the US spend massive and massive about of money on cancer research compared to Japan, South Korea, Singapore, China and Taiwan?

[Parker99]

If you look at this https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(23)00182-1/fulltext

Well than China is 4%, Japan is 4%, UK is 9%, USA is whopping 57%


So not sure why the US is so high compared to other countries and why those countries are so low.

According to this, the US accounts for more than half of recent cancer funding, with China and Japan just under 5%

Global Funding for Cancer Research: 2016–2020

In a study reported in The Lancet Oncology, McIntosh et al identified components of global funding for cancer research—both public and philanthropic—between 2016 and 2020.

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That is so odd I wonder if the reason the US spends so much more money on cancer research is because the lobbyist is so much more massive in the US the pharmaceutical companies and universities are so massive in the US and are lobbying the government to spend money on cancer research.

Where those other countries only have a handful of pharmaceutical companies and universities unlike the US that has hundreds of pharmaceutical companies and universities.

But again some one could ask why those countries have only handful of pharmaceutical companies and universities?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

If you look at this https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(23)00182-1/fulltext

Well than China is 4%, Japan is 4%, UK is 9%, USA is whopping 57%


So not sure why the US is so high compared to other countries and why those countries are so low.

According to this, the US accounts for more than half of recent cancer funding, with China and Japan just under 5%

Global Funding for Cancer Research: 2016–2020

In a study reported in The Lancet Oncology, McIntosh et al identified components of global funding for cancer research—both public and philanthropic—between 2016 and 2020.

ascopost.com

That is so odd I wonder if the reason the US spends so much more money on cancer research is because the lobbyist is so much more massive in the US the pharmaceutical companies and universities are so massive in the US and are lobbying the government to spend money on cancer research.

Where those other countries only have a handful of pharmaceutical companies and universities unlike the US that has hundreds of pharmaceutical companies and universities.

But again some one could ask why those countries have only handful of pharmaceutical companies and universities?

Why should other countries pay so much for their research when they can just steal our technology and save lots of money?

 

[JGalt]

If you look at this https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(23)00182-1/fulltext

Well than China is 4%, Japan is 4%, UK is 9%, USA is whopping 57%


So not sure why the US is so high compared to other countries and why those countries are so low.

According to this, the US accounts for more than half of recent cancer funding, with China and Japan just under 5%

Global Funding for Cancer Research: 2016–2020

In a study reported in The Lancet Oncology, McIntosh et al identified components of global funding for cancer research—both public and philanthropic—between 2016 and 2020.

ascopost.com

That is so odd I wonder if the reason the US spends so much more money on cancer research is because the lobbyist is so much more massive in the US the pharmaceutical companies and universities are so massive in the US and are lobbying the government to spend money on cancer research.

Where those other countries only have a handful of pharmaceutical companies and universities unlike the US that has hundreds of pharmaceutical companies and universities.

But again some one could ask why those countries have only handful of pharmaceutical companies and universities?

Because we have a lot more money than them?

 

[Parker99]

Because we have a lot more money than them?

If you look at this

List of countries by total wealth - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The US is 139,866 billion, China is 84,485 billion, Japan 22,582 billion, Germany 17,426 billion, UK 15,972 billion, France 15,727 billion, India 15,365 billion, Canada 11,263 billion, Italy 11,020 billion, South Korea 9,890 billion, Australia 9,720 billion, Spain 8,487 billion, Taiwan 5,42 billion, Netherlands 4,869 billion. And other countries less than 4,869 billion.

So the US is 6 times more than Japan so Japan would have spend 9% not the 4%. And US is 12 times more than Canada. So Canada would have to spend 4%

Well US not even two times bigger than China. Even at two times China would have to spend 28% not 4%

 

[Blaster]

With all the Cancer research there still is no sure cure for this disease.

 

[Mashmont]

If you look at this https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(23)00182-1/fulltext

Well than China is 4%, Japan is 4%, UK is 9%, USA is whopping 57%


So not sure why the US is so high compared to other countries and why those countries are so low.

According to this, the US accounts for more than half of recent cancer funding, with China and Japan just under 5%

Global Funding for Cancer Research: 2016–2020

In a study reported in The Lancet Oncology, McIntosh et al identified components of global funding for cancer research—both public and philanthropic—between 2016 and 2020.

ascopost.com

That is so odd I wonder if the reason the US spends so much more money on cancer research is because the lobbyist is so much more massive in the US the pharmaceutical companies and universities are so massive in the US and are lobbying the government to spend money on cancer research.

Where those other countries only have a handful of pharmaceutical companies and universities unlike the US that has hundreds of pharmaceutical companies and universities.

But again some one could ask why those countries have only handful of pharmaceutical companies and universities?

One more reason why the US is the greatest country on earth by a long shot.

 

[AMart]

With all the Cancer research there still is no sure cure for this disease.

Won't happen until new diseases can replace cancer.

 

[Parker99]

And in fact in Europe for example they are asking this very thing. Why isn't Europe as big as the U.S. in pharma and tech in general? They have an overall large enough economy. There are a lot of factors that go into developing a high tech economy, some of which can be unique to that country, but not others.

The top answer would be the U.S. is a very very rich country so has more resources to invest. That plays a role for sure. But there is more to it than just that and many countries are trying to emulate what the U.S. does and may have limited success, or maybe not much success depending on the country.

I am not an expert in economics so can only guess though. Europe has a more regulated market and that suppresses innovation. It is easier to take science and tech to market in the U.S. compared to Europe (although EU is trying to change this).

Also (for reasons I don't understand) the U.S. has a lot of venture capital investment and no other country has this to the degree the U.S. does. I presume due to the regulations of the market being less it grew on its own. I do not know if Europe invests less in its universities.

If it does, that may be a factor too. Other countries like China simply do not have the type of government needed to match the U.S. in science and tech. Free ranging research is not going to happen there and the government is involved with the process and that won't work.

Some Asian universities have cultural issues in their universities that are detrimental. If you are a brilliant rising star you do not move up above your superiors which tamps down innovation.

 

[Burgermeister]

Tons of money in cancer drugs here. Pharma companies advertise it like dish soap. Only the US and New Zealand allow pharma advertising.

 

[initforme]

One more reason why the US is the greatest country on earth by a long shot.

Yes we are a world leader in creating cancer cases in our citizens. We are the land of cancer.

 

[buttercup]

With all the Cancer research there still is no sure cure for this disease.

That's because there's money to be made, sadly.

 

[irosie91]

That's because there's money to be made, sadly.

how are you making money on the situation? Has there
been any success in cancer treatment AT ALL?

 

[Parker99]

Could there also be culture difference where Japan, China, South Korea, Taiwan and other Asian countries view death as more normal and part of life? Where as in the US and western countries view it as some thing very bad and we need to fight it?

 

[irosie91]

Could there also be culture difference where Japan, China, South Korea, Taiwan and other Asian countries view death as more normal and part of life? Where as in the US and western countries view it as some thing very bad and we need to fight it?

for the record-----there is no disease called "CANCER"---cancer is a
CATEGORY consisting of many diseases marked by an abnormality in the
reproduction of cells--due to abnormalities in the cells themselves---BUT
LOTS OF DIFFERENT KINDS. There have been EXTENSIVE developments
in the treatment of many different forms of "Cancer" and they are in use
with good results in some cases---even to the point of cure. Conspiracy
nuts PREACH "da docs know how to cure it---but why give up DA BIG
SECRET? We is maken' a fortune on it now........" that and dentists are
drilling holes in teeth for fun and profit

 

[buttercup]

how are you making money on the situation? Has there
been any success in cancer treatment AT ALL?

Heh. If you're being serious, let me be more clear. I'm not making money from that situation, I'm not in that industry. I was speaking in general, about the treatments for it, the drugs, etc.

Unfortunately, these days there's money to be made in treating sick people instead of getting to the root causes of disease, or promoting prevention.

 

[initforme]

for the record-----there is no disease called "CANCER"---cancer is a
CATEGORY consisting of many diseases marked by an abnormality in the
reproduction of cells--due to abnormalities in the cells themselves---BUT
LOTS OF DIFFERENT KINDS. There have been EXTENSIVE developments
in the treatment of many different forms of "Cancer" and they are in use
with good results in some cases---even to the point of cure. Conspiracy
nuts PREACH "da docs know how to cure it---but why give up DA BIG
SECRET? We is maken' a fortune on it now........" that and dentists are
drilling holes in teeth for fun and profit

America is the land of cancer. We do a good job of causing it because we need our beloved corporations.

 

[irosie91]

America is the land of cancer. We do a good job of causing it because we need our beloved corporations.

there is plenty of cancer all over the world. An interesting fact. Evidence of Cancer in whatevah is left of humans thousands of years ago shows evidence
of cancer ---sometimes. You may not know---people HIDE the fact of all sorts of
illnesses "in the family" in various cultures around the world. WHO stats are
notoriously unreliable---the stats are SUPPLIED BY THE COUNTRIES THEMSELVES----for decades SAUDI ARABIA completely denied AIDs. Russia denied "mental illness" ---the only mental illness Russia recognized was "CAPITALIST" Another unreliable stat from WHO is criminality---like murder rates etc.