Would One of Our Jewish Members Please Explain the Nakba?

[IM2]

It appears that Israel was created by the violent dispossession of land from the people who had been living there.

Quick Facts: The Palestinian Nakba (Catastrophe)​

• The Nakba (“catastrophe” in Arabic) refers to the violent expulsion of approximately three quarters of all Palestinians from their homes and homeland by Zionist militias and the new Israeli army during the state of Israel’s establishment (1947-49).
• The Nakba was a deliberate and systematic act intended to establish a Jewish-majority state in Palestine. Amongst themselves, Zionist leaders used the euphemism “transfer” when discussing plans for what today would be called ethnic cleansing.
• The roots of the Nakba and the ongoing problems in Palestine/Israel today lie in the emergence of political Zionism in the late 1800s when some European Jews, influenced by the nationalism then sweeping the continent, decided that the solution to antisemitism in Europe and Russia was the establishment of a state for Jews in Palestine. They began emigrating to Palestine as colonists, where they started dispossessing indigenous Muslim and Christian Palestinians.
• In November 1947, following World War II and the Holocaust, the newly-created United Nations approved a plan to divide Palestine into Jewish and Arab states, against the will of the majority indigenous Palestinian Arab population. It gave 56% of the land to the proposed Jewish state, despite the fact that Jews owned only about 7% of the private land in Palestine and made up only about 33% of the population, a very large percentage of whom were recent immigrants from Europe. The Palestinian Arab state was to be created on just 42% of Palestine, even though Muslim and Christian Palestinians made up a large majority of the population and were indigenous to all of the land. Jerusalem was to be governed by a special international administration. (See here for map of the partition plan and 1949 armistice lines.)
• Almost immediately after the partition plan was passed, the expulsion of Palestinians by Zionist militias began, months before the armies of neighboring Arab states became involved. By the time these militias and the new Israeli army finished, the new state of Israel covered 78% of Palestine. The remaining 22%, comprising the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza, fell under the control of Jordan and Egypt, respectively. In the 1967 War, the Israeli military occupied the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza, which Israel began colonizing shortly afterwards.

Quick Facts: The Palestinian Nakba (Catastrophe) | IMEU

The Palestinian “Nakba” (“catastrophe” in Arabic) refers to the mass expulsion of Palestinian Arabs from British Mandate Palestine during Israel’s creation.

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[Sixties Fan]

One cannot explain your total lack of knowledge of History. Or your one sided look at it. Or whatever else it is that you bought, lock, stock and barrel about what you copied and pasted.

Do some homework. You will figure out who is indigenous to the land and who invaded and when, and how many other lands the non indigenous people invaded and colonized for hundreds of years.

Curiosity is the best way for learning.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

One cannot explain your total lack of knowledge of History. Or your one sided look at it. Or whatever else it is that you bought, lock, stock and barrel about what you copied and pasted.

Do some homework. You will figure out who is indigenous to the land and who invaded and when, and how many other lands the non indigenous people invaded and colonized for hundreds of years.

Curiosity is the best way for learning.

And why do you find asking people who have first hand knowledge because they are Jewish to not be a valid way of learning?

Especially when different groups of people, due to their ethnicity or religion have different perspectives.

 

[Sixties Fan]

And why do you find asking people who have first hand knowledge because they are Jewish to not be a valid way of learning?

Especially when different groups of people, due to their ethnicity or religion have different perspectives.

There are no perspectives. Only History.

This poster's "perspective" is already based on their acceptance of the Nakba narrative.

Doing research, historical research on both people would have been enough for anyone. The purpose of this thread is not for them to learn anything about what actually happened. It is a clear accusation against the Jews.

 

[Shusha]

It appears that Israel was created by the violent dispossession of land from the people who had been living there.

It "appears" that way to you because you deliberately and maliciously excise other "quick facts" about Arab aggression intended to prevent the formation of or to destroy the existence of Jewish self-determination in our ancestral homeland.

It is especially egregious to argue "dispossession of land" in the context of the indigenous Jewish people, who were dispossessed from the land and have since decolonized (a portion) of that land.

 

[Votto]

There are no perspectives. Only History.

This poster's "perspective" is already based on their acceptance of the Nakba narrative.

Doing research, historical research on both people would have been enough for anyone. The purpose of this thread is not for them to learn anything about what actually happened. It is a clear accusation against the Jews.

Which is why IQ2 will probably read the Elders of Zion to do his research.

Either that or the loon will read Mien Kampf instead.



IQ2 has no interest in truth, just DNC rag propaganda will do for him.

 

[Kondor3]

Nakba? No such thing ever happened... that's merely how the Loser Arabs of the West Bank and Gaza justify themselves.

The Jews of the British Mandate tried to convince the Arabs of the region to let the Jews live there in peace...

The Arabs of the region chose to make war on the Jews and tried to exterminate those Jews... a second Holocaust...

The Arabs of the region told the Arabs of the Mandate to leave their homes in order to conduct the war against the Jews...

Those Mandate Arabs (and their descendants) who stayed in their homes are now full-fledged Israeli citizens; respected...

Those Mandate Arabs who fled on the advice of neighboring Arab states in hopes of returning after the Jews were exterminated...

Those Mandate Arabs stayed in their refugee camps and villages after their Arab brothers lost the war and failed to redeem them...

And those losers have been sitting on their a$$e$ in those camps for eighty years... major-league underperformers and idiots...

One really cannot blame the Jews of Israel for not embracing the Arabs Who Ran... the ones who want the Jews wiped-out...

One CAN blame Egypt and Syria and UAE and Lebanon and Jordan et al for not taking those Arab refugees into their own countries...

After all...

Those neighboring Arab countries were the ones who promised to redeem Mandate Arab lands once they'd won the 1948 War...

That those Arab countries failed to take-in their Mandate Arab brethren tells us just how good those Arab promises were...

Not worth a bucket of camel-spit...

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Death to Hamas...

Death to Hezbollah...

Go Team Israel...

 

[martybegan]

No such thing ever happened...

The Jews of the British Mandate tried to convince the Arabs of the region to let the Jews live there in peace...

The Arabs of the region chose to make war on the Jews and tried to exterminate them - many of them Holocaust survivors...

The Arabs of the region told the Arabs of the Mandate to leave their homes in order to conduct the war against the Jews...

Those Mandate Arabs (and their descendants) who stayed in their homes are now full-fledged Israeli citizens; respected...

Those Mandate Arabs who fled on the advice of neighboring Arab states in the hopes of returning after the Jews were exterminated...

Those Mandate Arabs stayed in their refugee camps and villages after their Arab brothers lost the war and failed to redeem them...

One really cannot blame the Jews of Israel for not embracing the Arabs Who Ran... the ones who want the Jews wiped-out...

One CAN blame Egypt and Syria and UAE and Lebanon and Jordan et al for not taking those Arab refugees into their own countries...

After all... those neighboring Arab countries were the ones who promised to redeem Mandate Arab lands once they'd won the 1948 War...

That those Arab countries failed to take-in their Mandate Arab brethren tells us just how good those Arab promises were...

Not worth a bucket of camel-spit...

Death to Hamas...

Death to Hezbollah...

Go Team Israel...

They fought, they lost.

They haven't accepted that fact for going on 3/4 of a Century now.

There will be no peace until the Palestinians recognize they have lost.

 

[Votto]

They fought, they lost.

They haven't accepted that fact for going on 3/4 of a Century now.

There will be no peace until the Palestinians recognize they have lost.

What happened to the American Indian was far worse

So much for embracing unrestricted immigration, like what the Europeans did to the American Indian.

At least the Zionist nation originally owned all of the land back in the day.

 

[martybegan]

What happened to the American Indian was far worse

So much for embracing unrestricted immigration, like what the Europeans did to the American Indian.

At least the Zionist nation originally owned all of the land back in the day.

Actually at the time there was no real concept of immigration as we know it.

Forces moved, found people technologically millennia behind them, and did what usually happened in that situation.

 

[Votto]

Actually at the time there was no real concept of immigration as we know it.

Forces moved, found people technologically millennia behind them, and did what usually happened in that situation.

Biblically, the Bible tells us that the Hebrew nation irradicated the inhabitants of the land of Cannan, meaning none were left.

Now, if you believe the Bible on this and are to condemn the Hebrew people for this act, fine, that is a conservation to be had. Personally, as I watch how Hamas has conducted themselves, like openly admitting and even filming the genocide of thousands of women and children in Israel, I better understand why God would want to wipe out such a people once and for all.

How can people be that evil? Even the Nazi regime tried to hide their genocide of innocents.

 

[P F Tinmore]

They fought, they lost.

They haven't accepted that fact for going on 3/4 of a Century now.

There will be no peace until the Palestinians recognize they have lost.

No truth here. The Palestinians lost? When did they surrender and what were the terms?

 

[martybegan]

No truth here. The Palestinians lost? When did they surrender and what were the terms?

All those wars where Israel is still standing.

They have lost. The sooner they realize that, the sooner they can get on with life.

 

[P F Tinmore]

All those wars where Israel is still standing.

They have lost. The sooner they realize that, the sooner they can get on with life.

You ducked the question,

 

[martybegan]

You ducked the question,

No, I didn't you jew hating fucktard.

 

[gipper]

One cannot explain your total lack of knowledge of History. Or your one sided look at it. Or whatever else it is that you bought, lock, stock and barrel about what you copied and pasted.

Do some homework. You will figure out who is indigenous to the land and who invaded and when, and how many other lands the non indigenous people invaded and colonized for hundreds of years.

Curiosity is the best way for learning.

^^^^MOSSAD^^^^*

 

[gipper]

No, I didn't you jew hating fucktard.

What a dumb fuck!

Opposing Israel’s genocide to this dumb fuck, means you hate Jews. Straight out of the Zionist narrative he’s been duped into accepting.

STFU!

 

[martybegan]

What a dumb fuck!

Opposing Israel’s genocide to this dumb fuck, means you hate Jews. Straight out of the Zionist narrative he’s been duped into accepting.

STFU!

 

[gipper]

The establishment tells you not to hate Jews, blacks, and other groups. It tells you it’s not right to be racist, sexist, homophobic, etc…but there is one exception. Muslims. The establishment says it’s okay to hate them, so you dutifully hate them.

Your mind is not your own.

 

[martybegan]

The establishment tells you not to hate Jews, blacks, and other groups. It tells you it’s not right to be racist, sexist, homophobic, etc…but there is one exception. Muslims. The establishment says it’s okay to hate them, so you dutifully hate them.

Your mind is not your own.

Fuck the Establishment.

Right now jew hate is the bon mot of the establishment.

Radical Muslims if they resort to terrorism can be shot and hung, or both, for all I care.