Zone1 Yes, you CAN lose your salvation (through mortal sin)

[forkintheroad7]

OK, call it Mortal sin or call it egregious sin. Take your pick. But you people who claim to respect the Bible

often totally overlook psgs therein that do not conform to your chosen belief system

Here is one I never, EVER hear a Protestant quote:

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Mt 18:23 23Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened to a king, who would take an account of his servants. 24And when he had begun to take the account, one as brought to him, that owed him ten thousand talents. 25And as he had not wherewith to pay it, his lord commanded that he should be sold, and his wife and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. 26But that servant falling down, besought him, saying: Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 27And the lord of that servant being moved with pity, let him go and forgave him the debt. 28But when that servant was gone out, he found one of his fellow-servants that owed him an hundred pence: and laying hold of him, he throttled him, saying: Pay what thou owest. 29And his fellow-servant falling down, besought him, saying: Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 30And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he paid the debt. 31Now his fellow servants seeing what was done, were very much grieved, and they came, and told their lord all that was done. 32Then his lord called him: and said to him: Thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all the debt, because thou besoughtest me: 33Shouldst not thou then have had compassion also on thy fellow servant, even as I had compassion on thee? 34And his lord being angry, delivered him to the torturers until he paid all the debt. 35So also shall my heavenly Father do to you, if you forgive not every one his brother from your hearts. --Douay Rheims Version​

 

[JustAGuy1]

Do you ever shut up?

 

[forkintheroad7]

Do you ever shut up?

"Whatever you do to the least of My people, you do unto Me" Jesus said

So you just told Jesus to shut up

What a great Christian you are!!!!!!

 

[forkintheroad7]

1 John 5:16

shows us there is a difference btwn mortal and venial sin. From the USCCB site (not necessarily recommended since it is part of the novu ordo sect but here they merely quote scripture):

If anyone sees his brother sinning, if the sin is not deadly, he should pray to God and he will give him life. This is only for those whose sin is not deadly. There is such a thing as deadly sin, about which I do not say that you should pray.

Wow.. no wonder I don't like praying for the baby killers. Then again, maybe this psg doesn't say to refrain from praying for them? HMMMMMMM

 

[forkintheroad7]

OK, call it Mortal sin or call it egregious sin. Take your pick. But you people who claim to respect the Bible

often totally overlook psgs therein that do not conform to your chosen belief system

Here is one I never, EVER hear a Protestant quote:

​

Mt 18:23 23Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened to a king, who would take an account of his servants. 24And when he had begun to take the account, one as brought to him, that owed him ten thousand talents. 25And as he had not wherewith to pay it, his lord commanded that he should be sold, and his wife and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. 26But that servant falling down, besought him, saying: Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 27And the lord of that servant being moved with pity, let him go and forgave him the debt. 28But when that servant was gone out, he found one of his fellow-servants that owed him an hundred pence: and laying hold of him, he throttled him, saying: Pay what thou owest. 29And his fellow-servant falling down, besought him, saying: Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 30And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he paid the debt. 31Now his fellow servants seeing what was done, were very much grieved, and they came, and told their lord all that was done. 32Then his lord called him: and said to him: Thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all the debt, because thou besoughtest me: 33Shouldst not thou then have had compassion also on thy fellow servant, even as I had compassion on thee? 34And his lord being angry, delivered him to the torturers until he paid all the debt. 35So also shall my heavenly Father do to you, if you forgive not every one his brother from your hearts. --Douay Rheims Version​

"buttercup" calls Scripture

"fake news"

Another candidate for IGNORE

 

[The Irish Ram]

Do you ever shut up?

^
That

 

[forkintheroad7]

Oh look! Irish Scam agrees with the person who asked Jesus if He ever shuts up!

Whatever you do to the least of Christ's people, you do to Him, so yeh, you can answer to Him on Judgment Day. Try snarking your way out of that (like you do with Catholics)

Mt 25:31-46

 

[JustAGuy1]

Oh look! Irish Scam agrees with the person who asked Jesus if He ever shuts up!

Whatever you do to the least of Christ's people, you do to Him, so yeh, you can answer to Him on Judgment Day. Try snarking your way out of that (like you do with Catholics)

Mt 25:31-46

So now you're Jesus eh?

 

[JustAGuy1]

"Whatever you do to the least of My people, you do unto Me" Jesus said

So you just told Jesus to shut up

What a great Christian you are!!!!!!

You wouldn't know a "real" Christian if one bit you in the arse.

 

[ninja007]

a) Romans 8:30 declares, "And those He predestined, He also called; those He called, He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified." This verse tells us that from the moment God chooses us, it is as if we are glorified in His presence in heaven. There is nothing that can prevent a believer from one day being glorified because God has already purposed it in heaven. Once a person is justified, his salvation is guaranteed—he is as secure as if he is already glorified in heaven.

(b) Paul asks two crucial questions in Romans 8:33-34 "Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us." Who will bring a charge against God’s elect? No one will, because Christ is our advocate. Who will condemn us? No one will, because Christ, the One who died for us, is the one who condemns. We have both the advocate and judge as our Savior.

(c) Believers are born again (regenerated) when they believe (John 3:3; Titus 3:5). For a Christian to lose his salvation, he would have to be un-regenerated. The Bible gives no evidence that the new birth can be taken away.

(d) The Holy Spirit indwells all believers (John 14:17; Romans 8:9) and baptizes all believers into the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:13). For a believer to become unsaved, he would have to be "un-indwelt" and detached from the Body of Christ.

(e) John 3:15 states that whoever believes in Jesus Christ will "have eternal life." If you believe in Christ today and have eternal life, but lose it tomorrow, then it was never "eternal" at all. Hence, if you lose your salvation, the promises of eternal life in the Bible would be in error.

(f) In a conclusive argument, Scripture says, "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 8:38–39). Remember the same God who saved you is the same God who will keep you. Once we are saved, we are always saved. Our salvation is most definitely eternally secure!

 

[ninja007]

The Roman Catholic Church adds works to salvation. It denies that we are justified by faith alone in Christ alone. It adds sacraments (CCC 1129), baptism (CCC 1257), penance (CCC 980), and the works of the Law (commandments) as necessary for salvation (CCC 2068, 2036, 2070). The Bible teaches that keeping the commandments is not necessary for salvation (Romans 3:28, 4:5, Gal. 2:16, 21) and is to be avoided (Gal. 5:1-5). Otherwise, what Paul says in Romans 4:5 wouldn’t be true, “But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness.”
The Roman Catholic Church preaches a false gospel.

 

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The Roman Catholic Church adds works to salvation. It denies that we are justified by faith alone in Christ alone. It adds sacraments (CCC 1129), baptism (CCC 1257), penance (CCC 980), and the works of the Law (commandments) as necessary for salvation (CCC 2068, 2036, 2070). The Bible teaches that keeping the commandments is not necessary for salvation (Romans 3:28, 4:5, Gal. 2:16, 21) and is to be avoided (Gal. 5:1-5). Otherwise, what Paul says in Romans 4:5 wouldn’t be true, “But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness.”
The Roman Catholic Church preaches a false gospel.

2 Timothy 2:23-26, 2 Timothy 2:14, Matthew 12:25, Matthew 18:15-16, Romans 14:1-23, Romans 16:17-18, 1 Corinthians 3:3, 1 Corinthians 13:1-2, 1 John 4:20-21, Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 28:25, Galatians 5:15, Galatians 5:19-21, Titus 3:10, Jude 1:19, Ephesians 4:3-6, Ephesians 4:31-32, Colossians 3:12-14, 1 Corinthians 12:25, 1 Peter 3:8, Philippians 2:1-2, John 17:20-23, Mark 3:24-25, Luke 11:17 and James 3:16.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Why do you guys bother with ForkinHishead? He thinks he's Jesus.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Why do you guys bother with ForkinHishead? He thinks he's Jesus.

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Ummm..

NO

 

[forkintheroad7]

So I guess the once saved always saved folks would say that Randy Woodfield, were he to die today, would go straight to Heaven?

He was born again, so he's a shoo- in, right?

Even though he murdered several people (serial killer) AFTER being born again

Wow, I don't think I want to go to THAT "heaven" so called... unless he repented and spent, maybe 1000 years in Purgatory

 

[buttercup]

So I guess the once saved always saved folks would say that Randy Woodfield, were he to die today, would go straight to Heaven?

He was born again, so he's a shoo- in, right?

Even though he murdered several people (serial killer) AFTER being born again

Wow, I don't think I want to go to THAT "heaven" so called... unless he repented and spent, maybe 1000 years in Purgatory

A person can say they're born again and not actually be born again.

Once someone is genuinely born again, they are a new creation. (2 Corinthians 5:17) With a new nature, a new heart. And sealed with the Holy Spirit.

So obviously someone who claims to be born again but is a serial killer is a fraud, or a false convert.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

So I guess the once saved always saved folks would say that Randy Woodfield, were he to die today, would go straight to Heaven?

He was born again, so he's a shoo- in, right?

Protestants (Catholic Daughter Church) are wrong about this

But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die

 

[Mr Natural]

Why do you guys bother with ForkinHishead? He thinks he's Jesus.

He can’t be Jesus. Trump is Jesus. Everybody knows that!

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Why do you guys bother with ForkinHishead? He thinks he's Jesus.

Maybe you should deal with what he actually SAID instead of the personal attacks. If he's wrong, tell us why you think he's wrong.

If he honestly cites Jesus' words and you can't refute them, then that's on you

 

[forkintheroad7]

Protestants (Catholic Daughter Church) are wrong about this

What does the highlighted mean?