Yet another incident showing trump to be unfit.

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There are hundreds. So many, some of the more glaring ones get lost in the shuffle. I had mostly forgotten about it but was reminded of it by the recent documentary, "From Russia with Lev."

A recording obtained by ABC News appears to capture President Donald Trump telling associates he wanted the then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch fired while speaking at a small gathering that included Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman -- two former business associates of Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani who have since been indicted in New York.

The recording appears to contradict statements by Trump and support the narrative that has been offered by Parnas during broadcast interviews in recent days. Sources familiar with the recording said the recording was made during an intimate April 30, 2018, dinner at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C.

Trump has said repeatedly he does not know Parnas, a Soviet-born American who has emerged as a wild card in Trump’s impeachment trial, especially in the days since Trump was impeached.

"Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be Trump’s is heard saying. "Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it."


Igor Fruman, one of the men who would be sent to Ukraine at trump's direction to dig up dirt on the Biden's, recorded the conversation at the dinner. Fruman and his associate, Lev Parnas, were trying to buy an Ukrainian energy company that had put itself up for sale. But they felt they needed to get US ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, out of the way. So at the dinner (BTW..Parnas and Fruman were known to have ties to the Russian mafia but here they were consorting with trump) Parnas baselessly accused Yovanovitch of bad mouthing trump who immediately told staff to have her fired.

Lev Parnas, an associate of Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, talks with Rachel Maddow in an exclusive interview about the difficulty Donald Trump had getting someone in his administration to fire the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, ultimately adopting a smear campaign to help cover her dismissal.

Ousted ambassador gives deeply personal account of firing by Trump


There's a lot to unpack here. trump consorting with Ukrainian criminals........then lying about knowing them. trump having Parnas and Fruman sent to dig up dirt on Joe and his kid (culminating with trump's extortion of Zelensky to announce an investigation in to the Biden's). trump routinely checking with Giuliani about Lev and Igor's progress. Giuliani feeding false info to Faux which would immediately be broadcast in order to smear the Biden's for trump's electoral benefit.

As with all the other disqualifying incidents trump was up to his eyeballs in, this one is also dismissed by The Following. Denying/downplaying it by way of a variety of methods. Mostly by refusing the accept the facts and the sworn testimony of dozens of witnesses.

Because once they admit to themselves the reporting on this incident is accurate, it opens a can of worms that can't be closed. Accepting the truth of this story not only disqualifies trump as a candidate for the presidency, it creates a domino affect giving credibility to all the other incidents they have denied. And as we know, the truth is not their friend.
 
There are hundreds. So many, some of the more glaring ones get lost in the shuffle. I had mostly forgotten about it but was reminded of it by the recent documentary, "From Russia with Lev."

A recording obtained by ABC News appears to capture President Donald Trump telling associates he wanted the then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch fired while speaking at a small gathering that included Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman -- two former business associates of Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani who have since been indicted in New York.

The recording appears to contradict statements by Trump and support the narrative that has been offered by Parnas during broadcast interviews in recent days. Sources familiar with the recording said the recording was made during an intimate April 30, 2018, dinner at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C.

Trump has said repeatedly he does not know Parnas, a Soviet-born American who has emerged as a wild card in Trump’s impeachment trial, especially in the days since Trump was impeached.

"Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be Trump’s is heard saying. "Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it."


Igor Fruman, one of the men who would be sent to Ukraine at trump's direction to dig up dirt on the Biden's, recorded the conversation at the dinner. Fruman and his associate, Lev Parnas, were trying to buy an Ukrainian energy company that had put itself up for sale. But they felt they needed to get US ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, out of the way. So at the dinner (BTW..Parnas and Fruman were known to have ties to the Russian mafia but here they were consorting with trump) Parnas baselessly accused Yovanovitch of bad mouthing trump who immediately told staff to have her fired.

Lev Parnas, an associate of Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, talks with Rachel Maddow in an exclusive interview about the difficulty Donald Trump had getting someone in his administration to fire the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, ultimately adopting a smear campaign to help cover her dismissal.

Ousted ambassador gives deeply personal account of firing by Trump


There's a lot to unpack here. trump consorting with Ukrainian criminals........then lying about knowing them. trump having Parnas and Fruman sent to dig up dirt on Joe and his kid (culminating with trump's extortion of Zelensky to announce an investigation in to the Biden's). trump routinely checking with Giuliani about Lev and Igor's progress. Giuliani feeding false info to Faux which would immediately be broadcast in order to smear the Biden's for trump's electoral benefit.

As with all the other disqualifying incidents trump was up to his eyeballs in, this one is also dismissed by The Following. Denying/downplaying it by way of a variety of methods. Mostly by refusing the accept the facts and the sworn testimony of dozens of witnesses.

Because once they admit to themselves the reporting on this incident is accurate, it opens a can of worms that can't be closed. Accepting the truth of this story not only disqualifies trump as a candidate for the presidency, it creates a domino affect giving credibility to all the other incidents they have denied. And as we know, the truth is not their friend.
"Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be Trump’s is heard saying.
stopped reading right there.

""Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be Trump’s is heard saying."

you're grasping at straws again.
 
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His former staff say he's unfit. His former WH attorneys say he's unfit. His former generals say he's unfit. His former CABINET members say he's unfit.

THIS has NEVER HAPPENED.

But of course, they're just jealous, because he's so wonderful. Oh, and because he's been sent by God 'n stuff.
 
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stopped ready right there.

""Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be Trump’s is heard saying."

you're grasping at straws again.
So..........your chosen method of dismissing the incident is straight up denial of the facts? Or do you just not care about anything trump did in order to rationalize your vote for him?
 
His former staff say he's unfit. His former WH attorneys say he's unfit. His former generals say he's unfit. His former CABINET members say he's unfit.

But of course, they're just jealous, because he's so wonderful. Oh, and he's been sent by God 'n stuff.
Yup. All the critics are just haters. Including all these folks.

More than 700 former military and national security officials endorse Harris, say Trump is ‘impulsive and ill-informed’​

 
There was quite a lot of detail that came out of the first impeachment hearings. But some of the more damning info came from Parnas who had been given an amazing amount of access to trump largely because he and Fruman donated lots of money to trump's PAC, and because Lev ingratiated himself with Giuliani.

Essentially, the Burisma smear campaign was launched as a counter narrative to Putin's efforts to get trump elected. Parnas had a front row seat to the whole sorted affair.
 
There are hundreds. So many, some of the more glaring ones get lost in the shuffle. I had mostly forgotten about it but was reminded of it by the recent documentary, "From Russia with Lev."

A recording obtained by ABC News appears to capture President Donald Trump telling associates he wanted the then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch fired while speaking at a small gathering that included Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman -- two former business associates of Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani who have since been indicted in New York.

The recording appears to contradict statements by Trump and support the narrative that has been offered by Parnas during broadcast interviews in recent days. Sources familiar with the recording said the recording was made during an intimate April 30, 2018, dinner at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C.

Trump has said repeatedly he does not know Parnas, a Soviet-born American who has emerged as a wild card in Trump’s impeachment trial, especially in the days since Trump was impeached.

"Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be Trump’s is heard saying. "Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it."


Igor Fruman, one of the men who would be sent to Ukraine at trump's direction to dig up dirt on the Biden's, recorded the conversation at the dinner. Fruman and his associate, Lev Parnas, were trying to buy an Ukrainian energy company that had put itself up for sale. But they felt they needed to get US ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, out of the way. So at the dinner (BTW..Parnas and Fruman were known to have ties to the Russian mafia but here they were consorting with trump) Parnas baselessly accused Yovanovitch of bad mouthing trump who immediately told staff to have her fired.

Lev Parnas, an associate of Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, talks with Rachel Maddow in an exclusive interview about the difficulty Donald Trump had getting someone in his administration to fire the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, ultimately adopting a smear campaign to help cover her dismissal.

Ousted ambassador gives deeply personal account of firing by Trump


There's a lot to unpack here. trump consorting with Ukrainian criminals........then lying about knowing them. trump having Parnas and Fruman sent to dig up dirt on Joe and his kid (culminating with trump's extortion of Zelensky to announce an investigation in to the Biden's). trump routinely checking with Giuliani about Lev and Igor's progress. Giuliani feeding false info to Faux which would immediately be broadcast in order to smear the Biden's for trump's electoral benefit.

As with all the other disqualifying incidents trump was up to his eyeballs in, this one is also dismissed by The Following. Denying/downplaying it by way of a variety of methods. Mostly by refusing the accept the facts and the sworn testimony of dozens of witnesses.

Because once they admit to themselves the reporting on this incident is accurate, it opens a can of worms that can't be closed. Accepting the truth of this story not only disqualifies trump as a candidate for the presidency, it creates a domino affect giving credibility to all the other incidents they have denied. And as we know, the truth is not their friend.

LOL, you think a recording of TRUMP wanting to FIRE someone is a bad thing...you must not be paying attention.
 
His former staff say he's unfit.
Joe Biden's CURRENT staff says Joe's unfit!
Trump's former staff are all the ones he FIRED for being RINOS.

His former WH attorneys say he's unfit. His former generals say he's unfit. His former CABINET members say he's unfit.
Keyword: FORMER. Guess we know why they aren't still his CURRENT.
 
So..........your chosen method of dismissing the incident is straight up denial of the facts? Or do you just not care about anything trump did in order to rationalize your vote for him?
WHAT fact?

SOMEONE said something, and THEY ASSUMED it was Trump?

that's not a FACT.

that's a WISH!

BTW, maroon..

I've never voted for Trump; I have no plans on doing so.
 
LOL, you think a recording of TRUMP wanting to FIRE someone is a bad thing...you must not be paying attention.
I think trump reflexively reacting to an unfounded accusation from a criminal, demanding Yovanovitch be fired without cause, is emblematic of his presidency. But that's not the only aspect of the thread showing trump's fundamental unfitness for office.
 
WHAT fact?

SOMEONE said something, and THEY ASSUMED it was Trump?

that's not a FACT.

that's a WISH!

BTW, maroon..

I've never voted for Trump; I have no plans on doing so.
Would you be bothered by Biden consorting with people with known ties to the Russian mafia?
 
Yes.

"Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be Trump’s is heard saying. "Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it."

Apparently, ABC didn't feel they had enough corroboration to say it was trump's voice at the time. It was. And guess what? Yovanovitch was fired by trump.
 
He's on tape saying it. Then it happened. Why do the facts make you sad?
He's on tape saying it.

is he?

your cut and paste kept using the word APPEARS.

why would they use the word APPEARS if they knew for a FACT?


Yes.

"Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be Trump’s is heard saying. "Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it."

Apparently, ABC didn't feel they had enough corroboration to say it was trump's voice at the time. It was. And guess what? Yovanovitch was fired by trump.
keep looking

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you'll find a verifiable fact eventually.
 

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