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Definition of this thread > "Young people" - anybody under 60.
And the worst part of it is, they don't realize how absolutely nuts they are. Now, in most things, they are perfectly OK, and no different than any other generation. But people under 60 have one thing that they are obsessed with, and is ruining life for all the rest of us >> COMPUTERS.

Somehow the younger generations have gotten into their heads that EVERYTHING has to be done with a computer. Worse yet, all the thing being done by computers have to have obstacles put in front of the computer user, in order to do whatever he/she is trying to do. These roadblocks, barriers, or whatever anyone wants to call them are > user names, passwords, approval numbers, etc.

Here is how idiotic this gets. Yesterday, I went online to try to find a used car for a friend of mine. So I put in the search box "cheap used cars for sale". OK. So I found some URLs, each with a short description. I chose one that was entitled Used cars under $5,000. So far so good.

Then I scanned through the listings and picked out car of a reputable brand and model, relatively low miles considering the price and year, and with lots of photos of the car. The car looked clean, inside & out. Still so far so good.

Then came the roadblocks. User name, password. Don't have any - this is the first time I've ever gone to this website. So I have to "register" in to the website in order to buy this car ? No. they let yuo come in as a "guest" but you have to click in with Google or Facebook. So I tried it with Google, Bingo. More user names & passwords needed. zcpuldnt recall these an ai want in my own home at the time.

Now, the website said i could receive an approval number sent to my email. LUCKILY, I had my cell phone handy so I could check my email there, and get this approval number without having to risk losing track of the minimized car sale website. got the approval number. Popped it in, and the website wouldn't accept it. Tried same number again. Nope. Went backwards and started the procedure to where I was asked to check my email. Did it again, and got a second approval number. This one worked.

So this brings us to the website of the actual dealer (supposed to be 3 miles from our apartment building). But the dealer still isn't revealing his name, address, or phone number (should have been the first thing we saw). Nope, more interrogation before we can get to that point. Now I'm being asked to enter my name. Done. Enter my address. Done, Enter my date of birth, Done, Enter my phone number. Nope.

At his point I said, forget it.

EARTH TO Young people who think you have to make everything be done with a computer: when you are selling something, you want to make it as EASY as possible for your customer to transfer his money from him to you. The last thing you should do to a customer with MONEY IN THE HAND is be putting up barriers in front of him. Pheeew! Buying a car is complicated enough, with having to have it checked by a mechanic, checking what you can check yourself, road test it, + all the red tape TTT (tax, title, tag), without having to jump though a dozen or more hoops on the computer.

As a former business owner and supervisor of 3 branch managers, I have never seen worse sales incompetence than in this pitiful case of an auto sale. Now I'm sure there will be some computer geek/wizards who will disagree and think the whole world should revolve around computers (as complicated as possible), but as computer astute as they many be, they are not up to going one on one against > COMMON SENSE.

 
More and more sites are doing this, they want to advertise to you and sell your email address.
There is a fix - create an email account in Google.
Have fun with it, mine is "junkmail@gmail.com" (with a number in the name, someone else already has it.
Use that to register to sites. My junk email is bombarded with advertisements. But who cares, I don't look at it
 
Definition of this thread > "Young people" - anybody under 60.
And the worst part of it is, they don't realize how absolutely nuts they are. Now, in most things, they are perfectly OK, and no different than any other generation. But people under 60 have one thing that they are obsessed with, and is ruining life for all the rest of us >> COMPUTERS.

Somehow the younger generations have gotten into their heads that EVERYTHING has to be done with a computer. Worse yet, all the thing being done by computers have to have obstacles put in front of the computer user, in order to do whatever he/she is trying to do. These roadblocks, barriers, or whatever anyone wants to call them are > user names, passwords, approval numbers, etc.

Here is how idiotic this gets. Yesterday, I went online to try to find a used car for a friend of mine. So I put in the search box "cheap used cars for sale". OK. So I found some URLs, each with a short description. I chose one that was entitled Used cars under $5,000. So far so good.

Then I scanned through the listings and picked out car of a reputable brand and model, relatively low miles considering the price and year, and with lots of photos of the car. The car looked clean, inside & out. Still so far so good.

Then came the roadblocks. User name, password. Don't have any - this is the first time I've ever gone to this website. So I have to "register" in to the website in order to buy this car ? No. they let yuo come in as a "guest" but you have to click in with Google or Facebook. So I tried it with Google, Bingo. More user names & passwords needed. zcpuldnt recall these an ai want in my own home at the time.

Now, the website said i could receive an approval number sent to my email. LUCKILY, I had my cell phone handy so I could check my email there, and get this approval number without having to risk losing track of the minimized car sale website. got the approval number. Popped it in, and the website wouldn't accept it. Tried same number again. Nope. Went backwards and started the procedure to where I was asked to check my email. Did it again, and got a second approval number. This one worked.

So this brings us to the website of the actual dealer (supposed to be 3 miles from our apartment building). But the dealer still isn't revealing his name, address, or phone number (should have been the first thing we saw). Nope, more interrogation before we can get to that point. Now I'm being asked to enter my name. Done. Enter my address. Done, Enter my date of birth, Done, Enter my phone number. Nope.

At his point I said, forget it.

EARTH TO Young people who think you have to make everything be done with a computer: when you are selling something, you want to make it as EASY as possible for your customer to transfer his money from him to you. The last thing you should do to a customer with MONEY IN THE HAND is be putting up barriers in front of him. Pheeew! Buying a car is complicated enough, with having to have it checked by a mechanic, checking what you can check yourself, road test it, + all the red tape TTT (tax, title, tag), without having to jump though a dozen or more hoops on the computer.

As a former business owner and supervisor of 3 branch managers, I have never seen worse sales incompetence than in this pitiful case of an auto sale. Now I'm sure there will be some computer geek/wizards who will disagree and think the whole world should revolve around computers (as complicated as possible), but as computer astute as they many be, they are not up to going one on one against > COMMON SENSE.


/---/ I'm 73 and spent 36 years in B2B sales. As soon as I run into roadblocks, I just move on to the next one.
CarMax is local and easy to use. You can also pick out a brand you like and go to the manufacturer's website. They are also easy to use.
As a car guy from the 60s, $5,000 in those days got you a new Caddy or Lincoln. Today, it gets you a worn-out piece of crap that will cost you more in repairs than its worth. Although the prices are low, the parts and repairs remain high.
A rebuilt transmission on an old car can run you $2,800 plus installation.
An automatic transmission replacement in a mainstream vehicle can range from a low of around $2,500 to as much as $7,500.
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And, I gathered this info on a computer.
 
Definition of this thread > "Young people" - anybody under 60.
And the worst part of it is, they don't realize how absolutely nuts they are. Now, in most things, they are perfectly OK, and no different than any other generation. But people under 60 have one thing that they are obsessed with, and is ruining life for all the rest of us >> COMPUTERS.

Somehow the younger generations have gotten into their heads that EVERYTHING has to be done with a computer. Worse yet, all the thing being done by computers have to have obstacles put in front of the computer user, in order to do whatever he/she is trying to do. These roadblocks, barriers, or whatever anyone wants to call them are > user names, passwords, approval numbers, etc.

Here is how idiotic this gets. Yesterday, I went online to try to find a used car for a friend of mine. So I put in the search box "cheap used cars for sale". OK. So I found some URLs, each with a short description. I chose one that was entitled Used cars under $5,000. So far so good.

Then I scanned through the listings and picked out car of a reputable brand and model, relatively low miles considering the price and year, and with lots of photos of the car. The car looked clean, inside & out. Still so far so good.

Then came the roadblocks. User name, password. Don't have any - this is the first time I've ever gone to this website. So I have to "register" in to the website in order to buy this car ? No. they let yuo come in as a "guest" but you have to click in with Google or Facebook. So I tried it with Google, Bingo. More user names & passwords needed. zcpuldnt recall these an ai want in my own home at the time.

Now, the website said i could receive an approval number sent to my email. LUCKILY, I had my cell phone handy so I could check my email there, and get this approval number without having to risk losing track of the minimized car sale website. got the approval number. Popped it in, and the website wouldn't accept it. Tried same number again. Nope. Went backwards and started the procedure to where I was asked to check my email. Did it again, and got a second approval number. This one worked.

So this brings us to the website of the actual dealer (supposed to be 3 miles from our apartment building). But the dealer still isn't revealing his name, address, or phone number (should have been the first thing we saw). Nope, more interrogation before we can get to that point. Now I'm being asked to enter my name. Done. Enter my address. Done, Enter my date of birth, Done, Enter my phone number. Nope.

At his point I said, forget it.

EARTH TO Young people who think you have to make everything be done with a computer: when you are selling something, you want to make it as EASY as possible for your customer to transfer his money from him to you. The last thing you should do to a customer with MONEY IN THE HAND is be putting up barriers in front of him. Pheeew! Buying a car is complicated enough, with having to have it checked by a mechanic, checking what you can check yourself, road test it, + all the red tape TTT (tax, title, tag), without having to jump though a dozen or more hoops on the computer.

As a former business owner and supervisor of 3 branch managers, I have never seen worse sales incompetence than in this pitiful case of an auto sale. Now I'm sure there will be some computer geek/wizards who will disagree and think the whole world should revolve around computers (as complicated as possible), but as computer astute as they many be, they are not up to going one on one against > COMMON SENSE.


I am over sixty and love computers as do my kids and their kids, I have bought several cars from the internet and find it very easy to do.
 
/---/ I'm 73 and spent 36 years in B2B sales. As soon as I run into roadblocks, I just move on to the next one.
CarMax is local and easy to use. You can also pick out a brand you like and go to the manufacturer's website. They are also easy to use.
As a car guy from the 60s, $5,000 in those days got you a new Caddy or Lincoln. Today, it gets you a worn-out piece of crap that will cost you more in repairs than its worth. Although the prices are low, the parts and repairs remain high.
A rebuilt transmission on an old car can run you $2,800 plus installation.
An automatic transmission replacement in a mainstream vehicle can range from a low of around $2,500 to as much as $7,500.
View attachment 1085692
And, I gathered this info on a computer.
I can exchange a rebuilt transmission for my truck for about twelve hundred around here. I bought a 2003 Buick Le Sabre for sixteen hundred at a place called, "U Pull It", and all it needed was a starter.
 
I am over sixty and love computers as do my kids and their kids, I have bought several cars from the internet and find it very easy to do.
/---/ Many our age have a working knowledge and ease with modern technology. Others never bothered to learn or put in the effort to master something that isn't quite difficult. Sure, in the early 1990s, DOS computers were basic and you needed a degree of skill to use one, but today, everything is pretty much automated.
 
Computers are a massive convenience. The internet might be the greatest invention in human history besides language itself.

I remember a door to door salesman selling encyclopedias. Now, right at our fingertips all the worlds information is available. It's incredible.

It has it's drawbacks and social media is one of them at times, but, if used properly and efficiently, computers with the internet are civilization changing. The Communication Age is real
 
/---/ Many our age have a working knowledge and ease with modern technology. Others never bothered to learn or put in the effort to master something that isn't quite difficult. Sure, in the early 1990s, DOS computers were basic and you needed a degree of skill to use one, but today, everything is pretty much automated.
I have been doing computer programming as a hobby since High School when we used geometric shapes as language modules. I took Fortrane in college and then the Window series up to Windows 5 in college. MS-DOS wasn't that hard; it just took knowledge of C: drive titles of files and sub-files that had to be memorized or documented.
 
Computers are a massive convenience. The internet might be the greatest invention in human history besides language itself.

I remember a door to door salesman selling encyclopedias. Now, right at our fingertips all the worlds information is available. It's incredible.

It has it's drawbacks and social media is one of them at times, but, if used properly and efficiently, computers with the internet are civilization changing. The Communication Age is real
/----/ "I remember a door-to-door salesman selling encyclopedias."
Me too. In fact, I spent 16 years in legal publishing, selling print law book subscriptions to law firms. The NY lawyers couldn't turn on a computer, much less know how to do research on Lexis. Attorneys in California were the opposite and abanodeoned books for online research overnight.
As a side note, a friend sold encyclopedias door to door, and his secret was to only stop at houses that had kids toys in the front yard. They were an easy sell.
 
I have been doing computer programming as a hobby since High School when we used geometric shapes as language modules. I took Fortrane in college and then the Window series up to Windows 5 in college. MS-DOS wasn't that hard; it just took knowledge of C: drive titles of files and sub-files that had to be memorized or documented.
/----/ I still use the keyboard shortcuts.
In this list, I'm including the most essential keyboard shortcuts anyone should know on Windows 10:
List of all Windows 10 keyboard shortcuts: The ultimate guide
 
/----/ I still use teh keyboard shortcuts.
In this list, I'm including the most essential keyboard shortcuts anyone should know on Windows 10:

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Keyboard shortcut


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Action

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[td width="120.401px"]Ctrl + A[/td][td]Select all content.[/td]
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[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Ctrl + C (or Ctrl + Insert)[/td][td]Copy selected items to clipboard.[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Ctrl + X[/td][td]Cut selected items to clipboard.[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Ctrl + V (or Shift + Insert)[/td][td]Paste content from clipboard.[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Ctrl + Z[/td][td]Undo an action, including undelete files (limited).[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Ctrl + Y[/td][td]Redo an action.[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Ctrl + Shift + N[/td][td]Create new folder on desktop or File Explorer.[/td]
[/TR]
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[td width="120.401px"]Alt + F4[/td][td]Close active window. (If no active window is present, a shutdown box appears.)[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Ctrl + D (Del)[/td][td]Delete selected item to the Recycle Bin.[/td]
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[td width="120.401px"]Shift + Delete[/td][td]Delete the selected item permanently, skipping Recycle Bin.[/td]
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[td width="120.401px"]F2[/td][td]Rename selected item.[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Esc[/td][td]Close current task.[/td]
[/TR]
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[td width="120.401px"]Alt + Tab[/td][td]Switch between open apps.[/td]
[/TR]
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[td width="120.401px"]PrtScn[/td][td]Take a screenshot and stores it in the clipboard.[/td]
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[td width="120.401px"]Windows key + I[/td][td]Open Settings app.[/td]
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[td width="120.401px"]Windows key + E[/td][td]Open File Explorer.[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Windows key + A[/td][td]Open Action center.[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Windows key + D[/td][td]Display and hide the desktop.[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Windows key + L[/td][td]Lock device.[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Windows key + V[/td][td]Open Clipboard bin.[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Windows key + Period (.) or Semicolon (;)[/td][td]Open emoji panel.[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Windows key + PrtScn[/td][td]Capture a full screenshot in the "Screenshots" folder.[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Windows key + Shift + S[/td][td]Capture part of the screen with Snip & Sketch.[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Windows key + Left arrow key[/td][td]Snap app or window left.[/td]
[/TR]
[TR]
[td width="120.401px"]Windows key + Right arrow key[/td][td]Snap app or window right.[/td]
[/TR]
It was harder to learn the type key codes for Napoleon's Last Battle game.
 
Definition of this thread > "Young people" - anybody under 60.
And the worst part of it is, they don't realize how absolutely nuts they are. Now, in most things, they are perfectly OK, and no different than any other generation. But people under 60 have one thing that they are obsessed with, and is ruining life for all the rest of us >> COMPUTERS.

Somehow the younger generations have gotten into their heads that EVERYTHING has to be done with a computer. Worse yet, all the thing being done by computers have to have obstacles put in front of the computer user, in order to do whatever he/she is trying to do. These roadblocks, barriers, or whatever anyone wants to call them are > user names, passwords, approval numbers, etc.

Here is how idiotic this gets. Yesterday, I went online to try to find a used car for a friend of mine. So I put in the search box "cheap used cars for sale". OK. So I found some URLs, each with a short description. I chose one that was entitled Used cars under $5,000. So far so good.

Then I scanned through the listings and picked out car of a reputable brand and model, relatively low miles considering the price and year, and with lots of photos of the car. The car looked clean, inside & out. Still so far so good.

Then came the roadblocks. User name, password. Don't have any - this is the first time I've ever gone to this website. So I have to "register" in to the website in order to buy this car ? No. they let yuo come in as a "guest" but you have to click in with Google or Facebook. So I tried it with Google, Bingo. More user names & passwords needed. zcpuldnt recall these an ai want in my own home at the time.

Now, the website said i could receive an approval number sent to my email. LUCKILY, I had my cell phone handy so I could check my email there, and get this approval number without having to risk losing track of the minimized car sale website. got the approval number. Popped it in, and the website wouldn't accept it. Tried same number again. Nope. Went backwards and started the procedure to where I was asked to check my email. Did it again, and got a second approval number. This one worked.

So this brings us to the website of the actual dealer (supposed to be 3 miles from our apartment building). But the dealer still isn't revealing his name, address, or phone number (should have been the first thing we saw). Nope, more interrogation before we can get to that point. Now I'm being asked to enter my name. Done. Enter my address. Done, Enter my date of birth, Done, Enter my phone number. Nope.

At his point I said, forget it.

EARTH TO Young people who think you have to make everything be done with a computer: when you are selling something, you want to make it as EASY as possible for your customer to transfer his money from him to you. The last thing you should do to a customer with MONEY IN THE HAND is be putting up barriers in front of him. Pheeew! Buying a car is complicated enough, with having to have it checked by a mechanic, checking what you can check yourself, road test it, + all the red tape TTT (tax, title, tag), without having to jump though a dozen or more hoops on the computer.

As a former business owner and supervisor of 3 branch managers, I have never seen worse sales incompetence than in this pitiful case of an auto sale. Now I'm sure there will be some computer geek/wizards who will disagree and think the whole world should revolve around computers (as complicated as possible), but as computer astute as they many be, they are not up to going one on one against > COMMON SENSE.


Computers ain't the problem IMO (they factually make things a lot easier) - but people who melt down their brains via watching Media apps, You-tube garbage and similar all day long, are more then worrisome.
 
/---/ I'm 73 and spent 36 years in B2B sales. As soon as I run into roadblocks, I just move on to the next one.
CarMax is local and easy to use. You can also pick out a brand you like and go to the manufacturer's website. They are also easy to use.
As a car guy from the 60s, $5,000 in those days got you a new Caddy or Lincoln. Today, it gets you a worn-out piece of crap that will cost you more in repairs than its worth. Although the prices are low, the parts and repairs remain high.
A rebuilt transmission on an old car can run you $2,800 plus installation.
An automatic transmission replacement in a mainstream vehicle can range from a low of around $2,500 to as much as $7,500.
View attachment 1085692
And, I gathered this info on a computer.
I understand all that, but thanks for the info.
As for the price, my friend is looking for, any donation$ to raise to a higher price will accepted wholeheartedly.
 
Definition of this thread > "Young people" - anybody under 60.
And the worst part of it is, they don't realize how absolutely nuts they are. Now, in most things, they are perfectly OK, and no different than any other generation. But people under 60 have one thing that they are obsessed with, and is ruining life for all the rest of us >> COMPUTERS.

Somehow the younger generations have gotten into their heads that EVERYTHING has to be done with a computer. Worse yet, all the thing being done by computers have to have obstacles put in front of the computer user, in order to do whatever he/she is trying to do. These roadblocks, barriers, or whatever anyone wants to call them are > user names, passwords, approval numbers, etc.

Here is how idiotic this gets. Yesterday, I went online to try to find a used car for a friend of mine. So I put in the search box "cheap used cars for sale". OK. So I found some URLs, each with a short description. I chose one that was entitled Used cars under $5,000. So far so good.

Then I scanned through the listings and picked out car of a reputable brand and model, relatively low miles considering the price and year, and with lots of photos of the car. The car looked clean, inside & out. Still so far so good.

Then came the roadblocks. User name, password. Don't have any - this is the first time I've ever gone to this website. So I have to "register" in to the website in order to buy this car ? No. they let yuo come in as a "guest" but you have to click in with Google or Facebook. So I tried it with Google, Bingo. More user names & passwords needed. zcpuldnt recall these an ai want in my own home at the time.

Now, the website said i could receive an approval number sent to my email. LUCKILY, I had my cell phone handy so I could check my email there, and get this approval number without having to risk losing track of the minimized car sale website. got the approval number. Popped it in, and the website wouldn't accept it. Tried same number again. Nope. Went backwards and started the procedure to where I was asked to check my email. Did it again, and got a second approval number. This one worked.

So this brings us to the website of the actual dealer (supposed to be 3 miles from our apartment building). But the dealer still isn't revealing his name, address, or phone number (should have been the first thing we saw). Nope, more interrogation before we can get to that point. Now I'm being asked to enter my name. Done. Enter my address. Done, Enter my date of birth, Done, Enter my phone number. Nope.

At his point I said, forget it.

EARTH TO Young people who think you have to make everything be done with a computer: when you are selling something, you want to make it as EASY as possible for your customer to transfer his money from him to you. The last thing you should do to a customer with MONEY IN THE HAND is be putting up barriers in front of him. Pheeew! Buying a car is complicated enough, with having to have it checked by a mechanic, checking what you can check yourself, road test it, + all the red tape TTT (tax, title, tag), without having to jump though a dozen or more hoops on the computer.

As a former business owner and supervisor of 3 branch managers, I have never seen worse sales incompetence than in this pitiful case of an auto sale. Now I'm sure there will be some computer geek/wizards who will disagree and think the whole world should revolve around computers (as complicated as possible), but as computer astute as they many be, they are not up to going one on one against > COMMON SENSE.


I have problems with passwords as well. Why just the other day this happened.

Windows : Please enter your new password.

User : cabbage

Windows : Sorry, the password must be more than 8 characters.

User : boiled cabbage

Windows : Sorry, the password must contain at least 1 numerical character.

User : 1 boiled cabbage

Windows : Sorry, the password must not have blank spaces.

User : 50bloodyboiledcabbages

Windows : Sorry, the password must contain at least one upper case character.

User : 50BLOODYboiledcabbages

Windows : Sorry, the password must not have cosecutive capital letters.

User : 50BloodyBoiledCabbagesYouStupidIdiotGiveMeAccessNow!

Windows : Sorry, the password cannot contain a special character.

User : IWillHuntYouDown50BloodyBoiledCabbagesYouStupidIdiotGiveMeAccessNow

Windows : Sorry, this password is already in use.
 
I am over sixty and love computers as do my kids and their kids, I have bought several cars from the internet and find it very easy to do.
I expected you to say that. Somehow, I accidently got you off IGNORE.
 
/---/ Many our age have a working knowledge and ease with modern technology. Others never bothered to learn or put in the effort to master something that isn't quite difficult. Sure, in the early 1990s, DOS computers were basic and you needed a degree of skill to use one, but today, everything is pretty much automated.
The point is the dealer could have had his name, address & phone # (IN LARGE TYPE) as the first thing at the top of the first page. Why the barriers ?
 
The point is the dealer could have had his name, address & phone # (IN LARGE TYPE) as the first thing at the top of the first page. Why the barriers ?
It may be that the devices/programs/Apps that he can use to do business demand such barriers.

I am increasingly finding this out.
 
Computers are a massive convenience. The internet might be the greatest invention in human history besides language itself.

I remember a door to door salesman selling encyclopedias. Now, right at our fingertips all the worlds information is available. It's incredible.

It has it's drawbacks and social media is one of them at times, but, if used properly and efficiently, computers with the internet are civilization changing. The Communication Age is real
Sometimes/someways it's a convenience. Sometimes and some other ways, it is a MASSIVE INCONVENIENCE -and completly unecessary. And stupid.
 
I have been doing computer programming as a hobby since High School when we used geometric shapes as language modules. I took Fortrane in college and then the Window series up to Windows 5 in college. MS-DOS wasn't that hard; it just took knowledge of C: drive titles of files and sub-files that had to be memorized or documented.
:bigbed:
 
/----/ "I remember a door-to-door salesman selling encyclopedias."
Me too. In fact, I spent 16 years in legal publishing, selling print law book subscriptions to law firms. The NY lawyers couldn't turn on a computer, much less know how to do research on Lexis. Attorneys in California were the opposite and abanodeoned books for online research overnight.
As a side note, a friend sold encyclopedias door to door, and his secret was to only stop at houses that had kids toys in the front yard. They were an easy sell.
Off Topic - please read the OP in entirety.
 

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