Are the Conservative USSC Justices Not Looking to the Future... or are They?

[progressive hunter]

What??

ignorance suits you,,

 

[bendog]

What??

PH is simply hijacking the thread.

 

[Lesh]

PH is simply hijacking the thread.

As always

 

[BlindBoo]

So who makes the determination they were acting as a revenage squad of the President? The next admin?

See, that's the point of the immunity

It depends. For example Merrick Garland would resign if the President demanded an investigation into a political rival, where as Bill Barr had no problem assigning a special prosecutor to investigate the so called Obamagate conspiracy at Benedict Donald's direction. But there is no crime in being a scumbag suck up like Barr.

 

[Couchpotato]

There were numerous guardrails that checked Trump’s worse instincts and decisions.

Let's assume what you are saying is true (which is dubious at best) do those guardrails not still exist?

We just learned from Barr that Trump often “mused” about executing political opponents and leakers and was ignored.

WTF does that even mean?

His musing to call up 10,000 NG forces to protect “his people” on Jan 6 were ignored.

That's one way to spin it I guess. The other way is that he offered that support to the mayor of DC and Congress and was rebuffed....

And we all saw the attempt to retain power after he was voted out.

Those guardrails would not be in place if he were elected again. There would be no more “adults in the room”.

Why? The "guardrails" you talk about exist for every President. Its called the Constitution and the law.

He would be surrounded by the likes of Steven Miller and Kash Patel and the clowns that came up with the fake electors scheme.

And? That doesnt change the laws of the US or the Constitution does it? Or do you think that a President can just say he's a dictator and that's it there's nothing that can be done he just is.

And he would legally be precluded from being elected a third time.

Which means he would face no consequences for anything because clearly the GOP would block any Impeachment attempt

If Trump had any inclination of being a dictator he would have done it in his first term. It's completely illogical to think anyone who wanted to be a dictator would just hope he was reelected to a second term before declaring himself as such. COVID, the riots the stupidity of Jan 6 would all have given him far more justifiable reasoning to declare martial law and then work from there to dictatorship. I find it wildly unlikely that the same type of situation would arise again in the next term regardless of who's President.


All we are left with is fear mongering from people like you.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Interesting.

If he went full bore, the Court would remain intact as long as it was useful to him. Otherwise, I suspect he'd just ignore any of their rulings. Once he did that the first time, the Court would be irrelevant.

Well, it kind of already happened…student loan debt forgiveness…that ruling was was ignored…

I know “but he’s using existing law to forgive FEDERAL student loans”…sure, talking about side stepping the ruling.

I guess some more side stepping is in order, eh?

 

[Lesh]

Let's assume what you are saying is true (which is dubious at best) do those guardrails not still exist?

WTF does that even mean?

That's one way to spin it I guess. The other way is that he offered that support to the mayor of DC and Congress and was rebuffed....

Why? The "guardrails" you talk about exist for every President. Its called the Constitution and the law.

And? That doesnt change the laws of the US or the Constitution does it? Or do you think that a President can just say he's a dictator and that's it there's nothing that can be done he just is.



If Trump had any inclination of being a dictator he would have done it in his first term. It's completely illogical to think anyone who wanted to be a dictator would just hope he was reelected to a second term before declaring himself as such. COVID, the riots the stupidity of Jan 6 would all have given him far more justifiable reasoning to declare martial law and then work from there to dictatorship. I find it wildly unlikely that the same type of situation would arise again in the next term regardless of who's President.


All we are left with is fear mongering from people like you.

1. They do not. Trump has surrounded himself with crazies and criminals. The “ adults” want nothing to do with him

2.it means why it says. Trump wanted various people executed and was ignored. That comes straight from Bill Barr

3. That’s exactly how he phrased it. And why it was ignored. THAT was a guardrail

4&5. The Constitution is only powerful because PEOPLE make it so. Not “the people”. People in government. When those people don’t give a rats ass (like the people involved in the fake electors scheme) it becomes powerless

6. You point to his first term assuming he would do the same things and have the same people around him . Neither is necessarily true

You call it fear mongering. I and many of the people involved in his first administration call it caution

 

[struth]

It depends. For example Merrick Garland would resign if the President demanded an investigation into a political rival, where as Bill Barr had no problem assigning a special prosecutor to investigate the so called Obamagate conspiracy at Benedict Donald's direction. But there is no crime in being a scumbag suck up like Barr.

Yeah why would bill barr resign over that? Y’all spied on a political rivals campaign….but your abuse of power dates back further then that

 

[struth]

Nope.

Show that to be true. You can’t

Show? Because it’s never been done in 200 plus years

 

[struth]

Repeatedly demanded that votes be “found” in the exact number of votes that would give him the win. This in spite of being told repeatedly that there were no votes to be found

Yeah that’s not the same as you claimed

You lied

 

[HikerGuy83]

The conservative Justices must also consider the unlimited power they would be guaranteeing the future dictator trump.

Or any other president. If you are going to make a case, try not to sound so TDS'ed while doing it.

He's not getting blacket immunity. Not going to happen.

 

[Lesh]

Yeah that’s not the same as you claimed

You lied

How is it different?

 

[struth]

How is it different?

Well in one case you claimed he demanded he overturn votes

In the other he’s simply saying we need to find x amount of votes

They are two totally different statements and request

 

[Lesh]

Well in one case you claimed he demanded he overturn votes

In the other he’s simply saying we need to find x amount of votes

They are two totally different statements and request

How does one “find” votes that he is told don’t exist?

 

[struth]

How does one “find” votes that he is told don’t exist?

He wasn’t told that when he said they were one down

He was told later in the convo the by the sec he believed that they didn’t have any more in response to the question

 

[Lesh]

He wasn’t told that when he said they were one down

He was told later in the convo the by the sec he believed that they didn’t have any more in response to the question

Are you drunk posting.

Try that again in “sober” if you can find some help

 

[struth]

Are you drunk posting.

Try that again in “sober” if you can find some help

I just listened to the call. I don’t have to base it off what someone told you the call said, there is an actual transcript

 

[whitehall]

Actually the Supreme Court is sworn to deal with the past, the Constitution. Nobody but radical ignorant (mostly) lefties ever suggested that their decisions should be based on popular opinion. It's always that old stodgy Constitution that gets in the way of progressive thinking.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

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Are the Conservative USSC Justices Not Looking to the Future... or are They?

Brett Kavanaugh’s 15-year-old law review could give the nation a clue at how he could rule in trump's immunity case. In his paper, “Kavanaugh didn't support blanket immunity and said prosecution could occur after a president's term,” which is what has happened at both the federal and state levels.

But if the conservative USSC Justices are looking to the future and planning to open the door to trump’s dictatorship, they must rule to protect trump from his current legal woes. However, that ruling cannot guarantee the same blanket immunity, as demanded by trump, to Biden for the remainder of his presidency. A perplexing problem for the conservative Justices.

The conservative Justices must also consider the unlimited power they would be guaranteeing the future dictator trump. Granting such unlimited presidential power, coupled with trump’s vindictive nature, the conservative Justices’ decision could jeopardize their own survival after January 20, 2025. This is the date trump’s revenge tour begins.

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Who else stopped reading at "dictatorship"?

 

[krichton]

Trump never said the president has Blanket Immunity

Presidential immunity. Is not blanket immunity. The fake news is out in full force and all the low intellect minions parrot the spin.

If Trumps says, one thing, the Democrats twist it into words he never said.
Presidential immunity, not something we have discussed. Is it something another president has used, claimed? Is this something brand new. Most likely if we search the words, we will not find the truth. Bing and Google will attach those search words to CNN, MSNBC, ABC, AP, and all the other Democrat propaganda mouthpieces.

But his lawyer did, which is the same thing. His lawyer has argued that a president is safe from prosecution even if he ordered the military to assassinate a political rival. That's as close to "blanket immunity" as you can get, although this is not even a term being thrown around by the media, so I honestly don't know what your argument is about. You maga idiots always argue Trump didn't say this and didn't say that when in fact he did. Why? I honestly don't get it. It is YOU who twist your god's words around, not democrats.