Immunity is not a license it"s a protection.

[Crepitus]

Meh .... I think it will fall apart where the state meets the federal. Two entirely different jurisdictions. That's what happened with the ballot issue.

You're just as entitled to wishful thinking as the next guy.

 

[Foxfyre]

From what? From exactly what we're seeing right now, using lawfare to attack a political opponent and contorting written law to force a guilty verdict. Given that federal law is a sprawling word mountain of latent interpretations subject to an indefinite product in the hands of politically inconsistent human judges it is quite understandable that some form of protection would be needed.

Taking it to extremes of rediculous hypotheticals doesn't really do the subject justice since the entire reaction of the court is one in response to an existing extreme.

No, it doesn't mean that a POTUS can rape, murder or persecute with impunity. It means that law cannot be weaponized for political gain.

Jo

Exactly. It keeps President Obama from being prosecuted for murder of American citizens with the drone strikes he ordered. It keeps President Biden from being held responsible for citizens harmed/killed by the illegal migrants he brought into the country illegally according to U.S. immigration law. Immunity will protect not only President Trump from malicious prosecution for political purposes but all presidents past and future. At least that's what I'm hearing from the Supreme Court arguments.

 

[berg80]

The SCOTUS is gravely concerned with the Dems willingness to persecute their political opponents

Sounds like some bullshit Trump wrote on his failing social media platform.

 

[berg80]

Exactly. It keeps President Obama from being prosecuted for murder of American citizens with the drone strikes he ordered. It keeps President Biden from being held responsible for citizens harmed/killed by the illegal migrants he brought into the country illegally according to U.S. immigration law. Immunity will protect not only President Trump from malicious prosecution for political purposes but all presidents past and future. At least that's what I'm hearing from the Supreme Court arguments.

You're hearing what you want to hear, not what's being said.

Much of the controversy surrounding the legality of drone strikes, particularly, the killing of civilians, is tied up with the question of whether the law of war—also called the law of armed conflict, or LOAC, and international humanitarian law—applies. The LOAC is the body of law—including the Geneva Conventions, other treaties, and customary law—that applies to the conduct of war. Much of the scholarly discussion about these strikes revolves around the geography of the war with Al Qaeda; whether strikes outside Afghanistan are prohibited uses of military force; or whether international human rights law or some self-defense doctrine applies instead of the LOAC.

But if the drone strikes are part of the armed conflict with Al Qaeda—as the Obama administration’s statements seem to imply—there is no doubt that the LOAC applies. The United States recognizes as a general matter that the LOAC applies to all military operations. U.S. Department of Defense directives require all personnel to “comply with the law of war during all armed conflicts, however such conflicts are characterized, and in all other military operations.”

Are U.S. Drone Strikes Legal?

The Obama administration has promised to release more information about drone strikes. This brief outlines the legal context in which that information should be evaluated.

www.americanprogress.org

 

[Foxfyre]

You're hearing what you want to hear, not what's being said.

I'm hearing what I hear from some of the best legal minds in the country.

 

[berg80]

I'm hearing what I hear from some of the best legal minds in the country.

Name one. And don't say Jonathan Turley.........he's a hack who is in the bag for Repubs.

 

[justoffal]

How come Judges and persecutors get ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY from; not just civil liability but they can't even be prosecuted for corruption while performing their jobs??

How come?

But those people want to prosecute an elected POTUS for questioning an obviously stolen election? Which is his duty, BTW.

We win this election and start putting those scumbags in prison or we're done as a Country. And the only thing that will stop these scum will be an armed Revolution. dimocrap scum know it.

They're counting on Americans being unwilling to take it that far. To go to War to remove those parasites from the halls of power.

Are they right?

We'll find out if America loses this election and dimocrap FILTH keep control.

Good point....the answer is obvious. You have to take the good with some of the bad....if not you'll only have bad.

 

[Foxfyre]

Name one. And don't say Jonathan Turley.........he's a hack who is in the bag for Repubs.

Sorry. It would violate my New Years Resolution.

However, though I wasn't thinking Turley until you mentioned him, others might want to read Turley's bio to see whether he qualifies as a top legal mind:

Jonathan Turley - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[justoffal]

I'm hearing what I hear from some of the best legal minds in the country.

The Founding Fathers Couldn't Have Foreseen Trump—But They Immunized Him

Although the Republican or Democratic Parties didn't exist during the times of George Washington and James Madison, bitter partisanship and gamesmanship did.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Edgetho]

You don't know what a grand jury is, or that only the prosecution gets to present it's biased side and the defendant has no opportunity to defend themselves.

Or that the scumbag persecutor knows exactly who is being summoned to serve on the Grand Jury. Has their records, especially if there's a dimocrap scumbag running the Voter Registrar Office.

dimocraps are scum not because they're born stupid, (they are) they're just scum.

There used to be a time (many decades ago) when I could sit down and respectfully talk with a Democrat about the future of the Country and which way was better, which direction, was better to take.

Not since Bill The Rapist and Ubercunt took over the DNC.

And Ross The Insane Pirogi made that possible. Bill The Rapist wasn't supposed to have a chance against Bush 41. Nobody was. His approval rating in April of 92 was at or near 80%. Nearly unprecedented.

Then we got the perpetually unhappy liberturdian crowd excited with Bush's broken pledge of "Read My Lips" and they (libertudians and crybaby republicans) voted for Ross The Insane Pirogi.

Which put the Rapist and Ubercunt in Office. And it's been downhill ever since.

Akshally, The Rapist wasn't all that bad. I met him once. Cool guy. A hard core left-of-center dim but not really that bad.

Ubercunt. She's the bad one. A total and complete piece of fucking shit.

The DNC has been shit ever since. They are no longer the left-of-center alternative in American Politics. They are, honestly and truly, the scum of the Earth. More Maoist than Marxist. Just total scum. Proponents of the Human Ant Hill. Scum.

 

[justoffal]

Sorry. It would violate my New Years Resolution.

Oh you mean the one that says don't spend all day trying to change a mind set in concrete and super glue?

 

[Foxfyre]

Oh you mean the one that says don't spend all day trying to change a mind set in concrete and super glue?

No not that one. The one that admonishes me to not feed the trolls, argue with idiots or engage in other exercises in futility.

 

[Edgetho]

The Founding Fathers Couldn't Have Foreseen Trump—But They Immunized Him

Although the Republican or Democratic Parties didn't exist during the times of George Washington and James Madison, bitter partisanship and gamesmanship did.

www.newsweek.com

Newsbleat just can't help but propagandize.

The Republican Party DID exist in those times. Ever heard the term "Jeffersonian Republican"? Of course you have. It's just that during the "Era of Good Feelings" (which was AFTER the period Newsbleat speaks of) political parties disappeared until Andrew Jackson, racist, slaver and genocidal dirtbag established what is todays' dimocrap scum party.

Publications and writers who don't know basic History can't be trusted to get anything else right.

Nice try, though

 

[BluesLegend]

Sounds like some bullshit Trump wrote on his failing social media platform.

The SCOTUS justices said this during the oral arguments dumb ass.

 

[berg80]

Sorry. It would violate my New Years Resolution.

Gosh, that was particularly lame. Is your New Year's Resolution not to embarrass yourself?

 

[berg80]

The SCOTUS justices said this during the oral arguments dumb ass.

Prove it. Where's the link?

 

[BluesLegend]

Or that the scumbag persecutor knows exactly who is being summoned to serve on the Grand Jury. Has their records, especially if there's a dimocrap scumbag running the Voter Registrar Office.

dimocraps are scum not because they're born stupid, (they are) they're just scum.

There used to be a time (many decades ago) when I could sit down and respectfully talk with a Democrat about the future of the Country and which way was better, which direction, was better to take.

Not since Bill The Rapist and Ubercunt took over the DNC.

And Ross The Insane Pirogi made that possible. Bill The Rapist wasn't supposed to have a chance against Bush 41. Nobody was. His approval rating in April of 92 was at or near 80%. Nearly unprecedented.

Then we got the perpetually unhappy liberturdian crowd excited with Bush's broken pledge of "Read My Lips" and they (libertudians and crybaby republicans) voted for Ross The Insane Pirogi.

Which put the Rapist and Ubercunt in Office. And it's been downhill ever since.

Akshally, The Rapist wasn't all that bad. I met him once. Cool guy. A hard core left-of-center dim but not really that bad.

Ubercunt. She's the bad one. A total and complete piece of fucking shit.

The DNC has been shit ever since. They are no longer the left-of-center alternative in American Politics. They are, honestly and truly, the scum of the Earth. More Maoist than Marxist. Just total scum. Proponents of the Human Ant Hill. Scum.

WHILE chief asshole Biden was caught recently smirking about how Trump was tied up in court vs being out on the campaign trail.

 

[BluesLegend]

Prove it. Where's the link?

Weak and pathetic. Obviously you didn't listen to any of the oral arguments because you are a puny brain Dem sheeple. Run along and live your pathetic sheeple existence in ignorance moron.

 

[Crepitus]

 

[Crepitus]