10 crazy things the IRS asked Tea Party groups

[Ragnar]

This looks less like IRS harassment then someone building an opposition database. Things that make you go hmmm. Lots of weird stuff. Kinda stuff one ignores on a census form.

Absolute power corrupts.

1. We’re gonna need all your direct and indirect communication. “‘Direct and indirect communications’ is profoundly chilling of First Amendment rights, ” said David French, senior counsel for American Center for Law & Justice, which has been representing 27 conservative organizations met with IRS inquisitions. “It’s so vague as to be impossible to comply with.”

2. What do we need to know about your members? Nothing much. Just ALL THE THINGS!

2) Are you a membership organization? If so, provide the following for your membership:
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a) How many members do you have currently?
b) What does the memberships consist of? Are they mostly in.dividuals? What is the percentage
of the organizational members as they are part of the whole membership?
c) Provide member application/registration form
d) Provide membership agreement and rules that governs members.
e) Provide a membership fee schedule.
f) What are the membership requirements?
g) What services and benefits do you provide especially for members only?
h) What are the roles and duties of your members?
.i) Provide copies of your website that your members can only access.

See rest at link...
10 crazy things the IRS asked Tea Party groups « Hot Air

All of the examples above are taken from actual IRS correspondence received by ACLJ’s 27 clients. There were many versions of the in-depth questionnaire sent to different organizations, suggesting there was more than one agent or one office involved. Though IRS officials blamed “low-level” employees in the Cincinnati office, which is the central IRS office in charge of tax exemptions, French said the abuse was far more widespread. ACLJ’s clients dealt with inquiries from IRS offices from “coast to coast.” Of ACLJ’s 27 clients, 15 finally had their status approved after 6-7 months with legal help. There are 12 groups whose status remains in limbo.

http://c0391070.cdn2.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/pdf/irs-questions-aclj-tea-party-clients.pdf

 

[Lakhota]

Considering all the right-wing tax dodgers - I don't blame the IRS for being inquisitive regarding teabaggers. Teabaggers want America to run on fumes.

 

[Ragnar]

Considering all the right-wing tax dodgers - I don't blame the IRS for being inquisitive regarding teabaggers. Teabaggers want America to run on fumes.

There is no bigger tax dodge than our progressive tax rate. But that is not what the OP is about. It's about corruption and liberty destroying power grabs.

As for "running on fumes" you are orders of magnitude more misinformed than Bogart's "Rick" about the waters in Casablanca. We have about two and a half trillion in income ever year with about three and a half trillion in spending. Thank you Bush, Obama, Pelosi and Reid.

 

[BreezeWood]

Considering all the right-wing tax dodgers - I don't blame the IRS for being inquisitive regarding teabaggers. Teabaggers want America to run on fumes.

There is no bigger tax dodge than our progressive tax rate. But that is not what the OP is about. It's about corruption and liberty destroying power grabs.

As for "running on fumes" you are orders of magnitude more misinformed than Bogart's "Rick" about the waters in Casablanca. We have about two and a half trillion in income ever year with about three and a half trillion in spending. Thank you Bush, Obama, Pelosi and Reid.

you can thank the Tea Party as well - it wasn't just fumes that caused the 2nd Great Republican Depression - more like a 9 year unfunded unjustified Iraqi war the Tea Party Republicans had no problem with while supporting the Bush Administration.

Update: I meant to add that a 2011 letter from Rep. Darrell Issa and Rep. Jim Jordan laid out 16 areas of the Tea Party questionnaires that seemed to overreach. Here they are.

if they knew about it in March 2011 why didn't they do something about it then ?

Another attempt to run cover for a despicable act and divert from the subject. Fail.

 

[Ragnar]

I don't care about the Tea Party, I care about the politicization of the Internal Revenue Service, government wrongdoing and overreach.

Update: I meant to add that a 2011 letter from Rep. Darrell Issa and Rep. Jim Jordan laid out 16 areas of the Tea Party questionnaires that seemed to overreach. Here they are.

if they knew about it in March 2011 why didn't they do something about it then ?

They did. The news, as in plural of new, is that the IRS has admitted they were wrong.

Numerous Tea Party chapters claim IRS attempts to sabotage nonprofit status | Fox News

IRS: Oh, by the way, we improperly targeted conservative and tea-party groups last year; Update: No disciplinary action « Hot Air

Update: Some of these tea-party groups have since been granted tax exemption thanks to the ACLJ, which has been litigating on their behalf for more than a year.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Considering all the right-wing tax dodgers - I don't blame the IRS for being inquisitive regarding teabaggers. Teabaggers want America to run on fumes.

Holy shit what projection.....liberals LOVE taxes...why do they have so many tax dodgers?

David Mamet: Liberal Tax Dodgers and the Disrespected Sushi Chef - WSJ.com

 

[buckeye45_73]

Obama's Tax Evaders of the Year - Michelle Malkin - Page full

-- Andre "Dr. Dre" Young. Forbes magazine named this California gangsta rapper-turned-music industry mogul the highest-paid musician in the world in 2012. He raked in an estimated $100 million, mostly from sales of his Beats headphone company, along with concert revenue. Dre's music electronics company was co-founded with Jimmy Iovine, who also founded Dre's parent record label, Interscope Records. Interscope was funded by "progressive" billionaire Ted Field, heir to the Marshall Field retail empire and one of the nation's biggest Democratic Party donors.
Dre boosted the careers of prominent Obama hip-hop cheerleaders Eminem and 50 Cent. But overseas, he's rolling like a Romney supporter. The rap mogul is now using a County Cork, Ireland, tax haven to protect his global headphones empire subsidiaries and avoid high U.S. corporate tax rates. The Irish Examiner newspaper explained that the elaborate structuring "allows for money to be (channeled) between the separate companies in the form of royalty payments or (license) fees to artificially but legitimately reduce profits as a means of reducing tax liabilities."



Wow those democrats has some CASH....and they DODGE TAXES......LOL

 

[tjvh]

Considering all the right-wing tax dodgers - I don't blame the IRS for being inquisitive regarding teabaggers. Teabaggers want America to run on fumes.

There is no bigger tax dodge than our progressive tax rate. But that is not what the OP is about. It's about corruption and liberty destroying power grabs.

As for "running on fumes" you are orders of magnitude more misinformed than Bogart's "Rick" about the waters in Casablanca. We have about two and a half trillion in income ever year with about three and a half trillion in spending. Thank you Bush, Obama, Pelosi and Reid.

you can thank the Tea Party as well - it wasn't just fumes that caused the 2nd Great Republican Depression - more like a 9 year unfunded unjustified Iraqi war the Tea Party Republicans had no problem with while supporting the Bush Administration.

Update: I meant to add that a 2011 letter from Rep. Darrell Issa and Rep. Jim Jordan laid out 16 areas of the Tea Party questionnaires that seemed to overreach. Here they are.

if they knew about it in March 2011 why didn't they do something about it then ?

Wow... You actually believe that Democrats didn't support the Iraq war. That would be hilarious if it wasn't so damned absurd.

 

[Oldguy]

They shouldn't have singled out Tea Party groups the way they did. That's indefensible and I don't buy the official story that it was just a way to categorize the work developed by lower level employees. Doesn't pass the smell test, does it?

On the other hand, I'd have no objections if they treated EVERY applicant for tax-exempt status like that. Let's make sure they really are doing what they claim they are before letting them get out of paying taxes and let's find out who's behind them.

Forcing applicants for 501(c) status to reveal that kind of detailed information would go a long way toward fixing what's wrong with the Citizens United Supreme Court ruling, wouldn't it? We might finally find out who's doing what and why.

I suspect that's what the right is actually afraid of in this case. If the IRS is allowed to actually investigate a claim for tax exempt status, The People might figure out how a few key players are trying to manipulate the election process through a series of tax-exempt front groups.

 

[editec]

I don't think they're picking on the TEA PARTY

They ask these sorts of questions of every 501-c-3 that has is a membership organization.

Questions like those are part of the standard tax forms for not-for-profits.

Now they IRS might be following up with still more questions about their membership system, but reporting how that system works (dues etc.) is a STANDARD part of their tax reporting.

 

[rdean]

More fun would be "10 crazies who belong to the Tea Party" or "10 crazy things the Tea Party wants done".

 

[chikenwing]

Considering all the right-wing tax dodgers - I don't blame the IRS for being inquisitive regarding teabaggers. Teabaggers want America to run on fumes.

There is no bigger tax dodge than our progressive tax rate. But that is not what the OP is about. It's about corruption and liberty destroying power grabs.

As for "running on fumes" you are orders of magnitude more misinformed than Bogart's "Rick" about the waters in Casablanca. We have about two and a half trillion in income ever year with about three and a half trillion in spending. Thank you Bush, Obama, Pelosi and Reid.

you can thank the Tea Party as well - it wasn't just fumes that caused the 2nd Great Republican Depression - more like a 9 year unfunded unjustified Iraqi war the Tea Party Republicans had no problem with while supporting the Bush Administration.

Update: I meant to add that a 2011 letter from Rep. Darrell Issa and Rep. Jim Jordan laid out 16 areas of the Tea Party questionnaires that seemed to overreach. Here they are.

if they knew about it in March 2011 why didn't they do something about it then ?

The so called tea party didn't exist until AFTER Obama was elected

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Considering all the right-wing tax dodgers - I don't blame the IRS for being inquisitive regarding teabaggers. Teabaggers want America to run on fumes.

And this post above shows you everything you need to know about the left.
Basically - "I am OK for the government to violate the rights of individual Americans if they disagree with what I believe".

This is exactly how the leftist operate.
Can you say "Tyranny"?

 

[ba1614]

I'm not sure what's worse, a government bureaucracy being this arrogant, and being permitted to simply say "I'm sorry", or so many Americans justifying it away because it's "the other guy"?

Either way it doesn't bode well for us.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I have a huge problem with 2C

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I'm not sure what's worse, a government bureaucracy being this arrogant, and being permitted to simply say "I'm sorry", or so many Americans justifying it away because it's "the other guy"?

Either way it doesn't bode well for us.

Oh...you didn't see the Press Secretary announce this "deserves a full investigation"?
Yeah....the irony is literally dripping down the walls.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I don't think they're picking on the TEA PARTY

They ask these sorts of questions of every 501-c-3 that has is a membership organization.

Questions like those are part of the standard tax forms for not-for-profits.

Now they IRS might be following up with still more questions about their membership system, but reporting how that system works (dues etc.) is a STANDARD part of their tax reporting.

The IRS has all but admitted wrong doing by issuing an apology regardless of what you "think"

 

[bripat9643]

Considering all the right-wing tax dodgers - I don't blame the IRS for being inquisitive regarding teabaggers. Teabaggers want America to run on fumes.

You are such a good little boot-licking toady, Lakhota.

 

[bripat9643]

you can thank the Tea Party as well - it wasn't just fumes that caused the 2nd Great Republican Depression - more like a 9 year unfunded unjustified Iraqi war the Tea Party Republicans had no problem with while supporting the Bush Administration.

Update: I meant to add that a 2011 letter from Rep. Darrell Issa and Rep. Jim Jordan laid out 16 areas of the Tea Party questionnaires that seemed to overreach. Here they are.

if they knew about it in March 2011 why didn't they do something about it then ?

If Obama's $1.5 trillion dollar deficits are good for the economy, then how are Bush's $250 billion dollar deficits bad for it?

I'd really like to understand this theory of economics that libturds use to justify the rule of their messiah.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I don't think they're picking on the TEA PARTY

They ask these sorts of questions of every 501-c-3 that has is a membership organization.

Questions like those are part of the standard tax forms for not-for-profits.

Now they IRS might be following up with still more questions about their membership system, but reporting how that system works (dues etc.) is a STANDARD part of their tax reporting.

The IRS has now admitted to singling out any organization with the words "Tea Party" or "Patriot" in their name, and purposefully delayed their application because of it.
It is that simple, an IRS lawyer admitted it on the air.