10 crazy things the IRS asked Tea Party groups

[S.J.]

I don't think they're picking on the TEA PARTY

They ask these sorts of questions of every 501-c-3 that has is a membership organization.

Questions like those are part of the standard tax forms for not-for-profits.

Now they IRS might be following up with still more questions about their membership system, but reporting how that system works (dues etc.) is a STANDARD part of their tax reporting.

If it's standard procedure, why did they apologize???

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I don't think they're picking on the TEA PARTY

They ask these sorts of questions of every 501-c-3 that has is a membership organization.

Questions like those are part of the standard tax forms for not-for-profits.

Now they IRS might be following up with still more questions about their membership system, but reporting how that system works (dues etc.) is a STANDARD part of their tax reporting.

The IRS has now admitted to singling out any organization with the words "Tea Party" or "Patriot" in their name, and purposefully delayed their application because of it.
It is that simple, an IRS lawyer admitted it on the air.

On top of that they weren't even sure if 75 was 25% of 300 lol

 

[FA_Q2]

I don't think they're picking on the TEA PARTY

They ask these sorts of questions of every 501-c-3 that has is a membership organization.

Questions like those are part of the standard tax forms for not-for-profits.

Now they IRS might be following up with still more questions about their membership system, but reporting how that system works (dues etc.) is a STANDARD part of their tax reporting.

If it's standard procedure, why did they apologize???

^ this.

Editec has made that claim twice. No backing it up though. They are certainly not acting like it was standard procedure and for a lawsuit to commence, I HIGHLY doubt that it is. If that were the case, it is unlikely they would knowingly sue with a lost cause.

The heart of this is that it is likely they were not treated equally.

 

[editec]

I don't think they're picking on the TEA PARTY

They ask these sorts of questions of every 501-c-3 that has is a membership organization.

Questions like those are part of the standard tax forms for not-for-profits.

Now they IRS might be following up with still more questions about their membership system, but reporting how that system works (dues etc.) is a STANDARD part of their tax reporting.

The IRS has now admitted to singling out any organization with the words "Tea Party" or "Patriot" in their name, and purposefully delayed their application because of it.
It is that simple, an IRS lawyer admitted it on the air.

You'll note that my post did not address whether or not the IRS is scrutinizing TEA PARTY affliated organizations harder than other organizations? (hence my starting our with " I DON'T THINK"... indicating that I do not know?)

I simply pointed out that the complain found in the original thread does not SUPPORT that theory because those questions ARE ASKED of every 501-c (?) that HAS memberships.

I was not denying that claim, merely pointing out that the evidence presented does support that theory

Its a subtle distinction I know, but I am a subtle thinker given to noting such things.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Considering all the right-wing tax dodgers - I don't blame the IRS for being inquisitive regarding teabaggers. Teabaggers want America to run on fumes.

There is no bigger tax dodge than our progressive tax rate. But that is not what the OP is about. It's about corruption and liberty destroying power grabs.

As for "running on fumes" you are orders of magnitude more misinformed than Bogart's "Rick" about the waters in Casablanca. We have about two and a half trillion in income ever year with about three and a half trillion in spending. Thank you Bush, Obama, Pelosi and Reid.

you can thank the Tea Party as well - it wasn't just fumes that caused the 2nd Great Republican Depression - more like a 9 year unfunded unjustified Iraqi war the Tea Party Republicans had no problem with while supporting the Bush Administration.

Update: I meant to add that a 2011 letter from Rep. Darrell Issa and Rep. Jim Jordan laid out 16 areas of the Tea Party questionnaires that seemed to overreach. Here they are.

if they knew about it in March 2011 why didn't they do something about it then ?

Dont be a moron, the tea party didnt even start till Obama care came along.

 

[peach174]

One more added to the many, many of IRS abuses over the years. They do it continually to the left and the right and this proves once again that we need to get rid of the IRS and get new tax reform.
A new tax policy would also wipe out lobbyists stranglehold over the congress in both parties and especially it would wipe out crony capitalism.

 

[Lovebears65]

Considering all the right-wing tax dodgers - I don't blame the IRS for being inquisitive regarding teabaggers. Teabaggers want America to run on fumes.

bahahaa. do you know how many in Obama administration who owe back taxes 41 one of his aids to start!!! . And Biden is also a tax dodger !!
Lets not forget Tim Geithner either ..

41 Obama White House aides owe the IRS $831,000 in back taxes -- and they're not alone - latimes.com

 

[yidnar]

I don't think they're picking on the TEA PARTY

They ask these sorts of questions of every 501-c-3 that has is a membership organization.

Questions like those are part of the standard tax forms for not-for-profits.

Now they IRS might be following up with still more questions about their membership system, but reporting how that system works (dues etc.) is a STANDARD part of their tax reporting.

then why did they issue an apology ??

 

[yidnar]

This looks less like IRS harassment then someone building an opposition database. Things that make you go hmmm. Lots of weird stuff. Kinda stuff one ignores on a census form.

Absolute power corrupts.

1. We’re gonna need all your direct and indirect communication. “‘Direct and indirect communications’ is profoundly chilling of First Amendment rights, ” said David French, senior counsel for American Center for Law & Justice, which has been representing 27 conservative organizations met with IRS inquisitions. “It’s so vague as to be impossible to comply with.”

2. What do we need to know about your members? Nothing much. Just ALL THE THINGS!

2) Are you a membership organization? If so, provide the following for your membership:
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a) How many members do you have currently?
b) What does the memberships consist of? Are they mostly in.dividuals? What is the percentage
of the organizational members as they are part of the whole membership?
c) Provide member application/registration form
d) Provide membership agreement and rules that governs members.
e) Provide a membership fee schedule.
f) What are the membership requirements?
g) What services and benefits do you provide especially for members only?
h) What are the roles and duties of your members?
.i) Provide copies of your website that your members can only access.

See rest at link...
10 crazy things the IRS asked Tea Party groups « Hot Air

All of the examples above are taken from actual IRS correspondence received by ACLJ’s 27 clients. There were many versions of the in-depth questionnaire sent to different organizations, suggesting there was more than one agent or one office involved. Though IRS officials blamed “low-level” employees in the Cincinnati office, which is the central IRS office in charge of tax exemptions, French said the abuse was far more widespread. ACLJ’s clients dealt with inquiries from IRS offices from “coast to coast.” Of ACLJ’s 27 clients, 15 finally had their status approved after 6-7 months with legal help. There are 12 groups whose status remains in limbo.

http://c0391070.cdn2.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/pdf/irs-questions-aclj-tea-party-clients.pdf

they committed a criminal act !! this needs to be investigated !!

 

[Skull Pilot]

One more reason to change the tax codes so we can gut the fucking IRS.

 

[WillowTree]

They shouldn't have singled out Tea Party groups the way they did. That's indefensible and I don't buy the official story that it was just a way to categorize the work developed by lower level employees. Doesn't pass the smell test, does it?

On the other hand, I'd have no objections if they treated EVERY applicant for tax-exempt status like that. Let's make sure they really are doing what they claim they are before letting them get out of paying taxes and let's find out who's behind them.

Forcing applicants for 501(c) status to reveal that kind of detailed information would go a long way toward fixing what's wrong with the Citizens United Supreme Court ruling, wouldn't it? We might finally find out who's doing what and why.

I suspect that's what the right is actually afraid of in this case. If the IRS is allowed to actually investigate a claim for tax exempt status, The People might figure out how a few key players are trying to manipulate the election process through a series of tax-exempt front groups.

did they ever do the same for ACORN? Nuff said. dunderhead.

 

[editec]

I don't think they're picking on the TEA PARTY

They ask these sorts of questions of every 501-c-3 that has is a membership organization.

Questions like those are part of the standard tax forms for not-for-profits.

Now they IRS might be following up with still more questions about their membership system, but reporting how that system works (dues etc.) is a STANDARD part of their tax reporting.

If it's standard procedure, why did they apologize???

Apparently they are scrutinizing TP/Patriot organizations more thorougly than other 501 c(?s).

Or at least that is what one official claims.

But the evidence presented to support that claim is NOT an example of that since every membership 501 c(?) is asked the same questions.

I know that my 501(c) 3 is asked the very same questions by the IRS, for example.

Am I to assume that the IRS is picking on me specifically for asking of my organization the VERY SAME questions they ask every other similar organization?

My complaint isn't a refuation of the claim, my complaint is that there is no evidence to support that claim found in the article.

Do you understand my complaint about this now?

 

[longknife]

Considering all the right-wing tax dodgers - I don't blame the IRS for being inquisitive regarding teabaggers. Teabaggers want America to run on fumes.

When do you ever overcome your psychotic responses to the words "Tea Baggers"?

 

[Intense]

On Friday's Mark Levin Show: Mark discusses how the IRS has had to apologize for deliberately targeting conservative groups and threatening to take away their non exempt tax status. Mark and the Landmark Legal Foundation has been working on this story since the beginning and it was finally ruled that the IRS did in fact do wrong by targeting these groups. This is why we're skeptical about more power being given to government agencies with less oversight.

Mark Levin Show - May 10, 2013

Bottom line here. This is about the abuse of power and getting caught. What I personally find pathetic and troubling, is the blind support for the IRS doing this, and the excuses for it. It plainly was unethical, illegal, and an abuse of power. There is no justification for it.

 

[Intense]

Considering all the right-wing tax dodgers - I don't blame the IRS for being inquisitive regarding teabaggers. Teabaggers want America to run on fumes.

Pathetic attempt to derail a legitimate thread.

 

[dblack]

Considering all the right-wing tax dodgers - I don't blame the IRS for being inquisitive regarding teabaggers. Teabaggers want America to run on fumes.

Gotta love it when authoritarian 'liberals' show their true colors.

 

[Intense]

I don't think they're picking on the TEA PARTY

They ask these sorts of questions of every 501-c-3 that has is a membership organization.

Questions like those are part of the standard tax forms for not-for-profits.

Now they IRS might be following up with still more questions about their membership system, but reporting how that system works (dues etc.) is a STANDARD part of their tax reporting.

They did far more than asking standard questions.

 

[Intense]

I don't think they're picking on the TEA PARTY

They ask these sorts of questions of every 501-c-3 that has is a membership organization.

Questions like those are part of the standard tax forms for not-for-profits.

Now they IRS might be following up with still more questions about their membership system, but reporting how that system works (dues etc.) is a STANDARD part of their tax reporting.

They did a lot more than ask standard questions.

From the Landmark Legal Foundation:
A Letter to the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration.
This was Ground Zero for the Investigation.



http://www.landmarklegal.org/uploads/IRS IG Letter without attachments.pdf

 

[whitehall]

Considering all the right-wing tax dodgers - I don't blame the IRS for being inquisitive regarding teabaggers. Teabaggers want America to run on fumes.

Maybe the radical left skipped classes on the Constitution or they are just plain ignorant. Once lefties get a little power they want to crush the opposition and damn the Constitution. Wait till the IRS becomes "inquisitive" about the Indian Tribe gambling casino profits. You might see a little screaming.

 

[B. Kidd]

IRS is the political retaliation tool of the left.
Yes, it is time to dissolve it.