$11 Million Ransom Paid

[Couchpotato]

It should be illegal for companies to pay like that. It's too easy to air gap their operating systems to prevent hacking.

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They provide 25% of the meat in the US. if you're right there is a reasonable way for them to protect themselves and they don't, I guess that's another story. Seems like everyone would have it already. So what's the catch?

They are a huge national company. I dont think air gapping their systems is really a reasonable solution. Im quite sure their systems are interconnected across their numerous locations. You would have to have a separate intranet that all their systems run on and internet connections for the business side with separate computer systems that never touched both networks. It's a meat production company not a US intelligence agency. The US as part of our policy is so worried about attribution when it comes to stuff like this that we dont hit back. Foreign nations know this. What needs to happen is we need to hit back, hit back hard and say yes it was the US and that's only the tip of the iceberg.

 

[Couchpotato]

Consider a situation where your business is under constant assault by criminals looking for weakness to exploit (i.e. they're constantly checking the "locks" on your systems to see if there's an opening) from all over the globe 24x7x365 and their methods of attack constantly evolve to exploit vulnerabilities that even the manufacturers of hardware/software that you have in place aren't even aware of yet.

That's the situation most businesses around the globe today are facing, it's a never-ending battle, the best you can hope for is to make yourself an unattractive target by constantly keeping up to date with technology & expertise.

If this is indeed a worldwide problem, then the solution is for the world to unite on this one particular subject to defeat those doing things like that to world businesses. Every country agree they will do whatever is possible to locate such people if such attacks are coming from their country. As I posted earlier, if this were happening under Trump, he'd do something like offer a 10 million dollar reward to anybody that rats out these culprits that leads to their arrest or their death.

The other issue (a greater issue IMO) is that it's typically not the boxes that are vulnerable as much as the idiot sitting behind the box. And sadly no amount of training can solve that for a significant percentage of the population.

 

[NightFox]

Consider a situation where your business is under constant assault by criminals looking for weakness to exploit (i.e. they're constantly checking the "locks" on your systems to see if there's an opening) from all over the globe 24x7x365 and their methods of attack constantly evolve to exploit vulnerabilities that even the manufacturers of hardware/software that you have in place aren't even aware of yet.

That's the situation most businesses around the globe today are facing, it's a never-ending battle, the best you can hope for is to make yourself an unattractive target by constantly keeping up to date with technology & expertise.

If this is indeed a worldwide problem, then the solution is for the world to unite on this one particular subject to defeat those doing things like that to world businesses. Every country agree they will do whatever is possible to locate such people if such attacks are coming from their country. As I posted earlier, if this were happening under Trump, he'd do something like offer a 10 million dollar reward to anybody that rats out these culprits that leads to their arrest or their death.

That's already happening, unfortunately there is a lack of political leadership to bring it together, politicians TALK about cybersecurity but for the most part that's all they really do about it, besides playing the "international blame game" that is.

Where we do get leadership is from the major technology companies, however they're not in a good position to enforce anything from a legal perspective, politicians don't really listen to them on the subject since it makes for better headlines to just beat them up for their failures and completely ignore all their successes.

 

[Dana7360]

It should be illegal for companies to pay like that. It's too easy to air gap their operating systems to prevent hacking.

.

They provide 25% of the meat in the US. if you're right there is a reasonable way for them to protect themselves and they don't, I guess that's another story. Seems like everyone would have it already. So what's the catch?

They are a huge national company. I dont think air gapping their systems is really a reasonable solution. Im quite sure their systems are interconnected across their numerous locations. You would have to have a separate intranet that all their systems run on and internet connections for the business side with separate computer systems that never touched both networks. It's a meat production company not a US intelligence agency. The US as part of our policy is so worried about attribution when it comes to stuff like this that we dont hit back. Foreign nations know this. What needs to happen is we need to hit back, hit back hard and say yes it was the US and that's only the tip of the iceberg.

Yes as I stated in a reply to the OP, a totally separate system for email.

The only way to stop this is to keep email on a separate system from the rest of the company operations.

It's expensive but costs less than being hacked, shutdown and blackmailed.

 

[OKTexas]

It should be illegal for companies to pay like that. It's too easy to air gap their operating systems to prevent hacking.

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They provide 25% of the meat in the US. if you're right there is a reasonable way for them to protect themselves and they don't, I guess that's another story. Seems like everyone would have it already. So what's the catch?

They have to develop their own intranet, it's not supercheap especially if you have facilities scattered all over the country. But I'd bet it would have cost a lot less than 11 million. It would have been much cheaper for the pipeline company, they already have the right of way to lay their own fiberoptic cables. The problem is too many companies are only concerned for short term profits and don't want to spend on what's basically an insurance policy.

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And there is a HUGE push for cloud services like Amazon. Just wait until they get hacked one day. Many prominient company’s data would be exposed and if ransom payments were required the numbers would be astronomical. AWS, for example, is very secure, but nothing short of unplugging is truly un-hackable.

Exactly why I said companies need to have their operations systems on their own intranet.

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[jbrownson0831]

Putin wouldn’t fuck with him IMO.

Who is him? POS trump?

If so, Putin owns POS trump, and Putin WILL in FACT fuck with trump when trump is no longer useful.

Did you hear that........when POS trump is "No Longer Useful for Putin"

Love your Trump Derangement Syndrome!
What level are you up to? I would guess you are at the psycho10 level.

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Hey Newbie,
I'm doing just fine.
You seem triggered.

You seem to be missing your boyfriend, who is no longer president right?

 

[Colin norris]

Sucks that this meat packing company had to pay an $11 million ransom.

Meatpacker JBS says it paid equivalent of $11 mln in ransomware attack

Meatpacker JBS USA paid a ransom equivalent to $11 million following a cyberattack that disrupted its North American and Australian operations, the company's CEO said in a statement on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

it’s sad the xiden/harris admin can’t keep us safe from cyber attacks

now the price of meat will continue to rise due to the xiden harris failure of an admin...

Oh the irony. None of you said a word when Putin helped install the idiot trump now you want Joe to fix it. Typical.

Sorry...that’s untrue. Everyone was in full support of election security measures

it was the dems that lied about a russian conspiracy hoax and distracted from the issue

You mean the democrats were the first party ever to lie??? How shocking. I couldn't believe that.

It reminds me of that lie republicans spread that the election was stolen. Something should be done about politicians telling lies. God doesn't like liars and hypocrites, does he?

 

[B. Kidd]

Sucks that this meat packing company had to pay an $11 million ransom.

Meatpacker JBS says it paid equivalent of $11 mln in ransomware attack

Meatpacker JBS USA paid a ransom equivalent to $11 million following a cyberattack that disrupted its North American and Australian operations, the company's CEO said in a statement on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

As long as these hackers can get away with it and make millions off it, why would they stop?
WHY CAN'T WE CATCH THESE SCOUNDRELS?
There needs to be a cyber defense that bites back the instant one of these things happens. Trashes their computer brains, traces a footprint directly to the hacker's door.

Dimm's are in charge!
It's a hacker's field day.
The Federal Bureau of Idiots continue to be idiots!!

 

[struth]

Sucks that this meat packing company had to pay an $11 million ransom.

Meatpacker JBS says it paid equivalent of $11 mln in ransomware attack

Meatpacker JBS USA paid a ransom equivalent to $11 million following a cyberattack that disrupted its North American and Australian operations, the company's CEO said in a statement on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

it’s sad the xiden/harris admin can’t keep us safe from cyber attacks

now the price of meat will continue to rise due to the xiden harris failure of an admin...

Oh the irony. None of you said a word when Putin helped install the idiot trump now you want Joe to fix it. Typical.

Sorry...that’s untrue. Everyone was in full support of election security measures

it was the dems that lied about a russian conspiracy hoax and distracted from the issue

You mean the democrats were the first party ever to lie??? How shocking. I couldn't believe that.

It reminds me of that lie republicans spread that the election was stolen. Something should be done about politicians telling lies. God doesn't like liars and hypocrites, does he?

of course they weren’t the first.

 

[Couchpotato]

It should be illegal for companies to pay like that. It's too easy to air gap their operating systems to prevent hacking.

.

They provide 25% of the meat in the US. if you're right there is a reasonable way for them to protect themselves and they don't, I guess that's another story. Seems like everyone would have it already. So what's the catch?

They are a huge national company. I dont think air gapping their systems is really a reasonable solution. Im quite sure their systems are interconnected across their numerous locations. You would have to have a separate intranet that all their systems run on and internet connections for the business side with separate computer systems that never touched both networks. It's a meat production company not a US intelligence agency. The US as part of our policy is so worried about attribution when it comes to stuff like this that we dont hit back. Foreign nations know this. What needs to happen is we need to hit back, hit back hard and say yes it was the US and that's only the tip of the iceberg.

Yes as I stated in a reply to the OP, a totally separate system for email.

The only way to stop this is to keep email on a separate system from the rest of the company operations.

It's expensive but costs less than being hacked, shutdown and blackmailed.

Im not sure that's the case. For a large company to have and manage 2 networks might cost more than 11 million depending on how many years you extend that out. That means every employee has to have 2 computers on their desk potentially with all the network connection overhead associated with them. I would think you increase your IT staff but 50%? So you have to account for their salaries, training, etc etc. The costs would add up quickly. And for a small company the overhead costs would be a non starter.

 

[OldLady]

Sucks that this meat packing company had to pay an $11 million ransom.

Meatpacker JBS says it paid equivalent of $11 mln in ransomware attack

Meatpacker JBS USA paid a ransom equivalent to $11 million following a cyberattack that disrupted its North American and Australian operations, the company's CEO said in a statement on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

As long as these hackers can get away with it and make millions off it, why would they stop?
WHY CAN'T WE CATCH THESE SCOUNDRELS?
There needs to be a cyber defense that bites back the instant one of these things happens. Trashes their computer brains, traces a footprint directly to the hacker's door.

Dimm's are in charge!
It's a hacker's field day.
The Federal Bureau of Idiots continue to be idiots!!

It has nothing to do with which party is in charge. I already posted a link that shows it happened all during the T**** era as well. As a matter of fact, when Russia hacked our government data bases for months, T**** didn't do squat about it.

What has to happen is simple: we need to hire some of these hackers ourselves. If we're too goddamned stupid to catch them, hire people who can.

 

[B. Kidd]

Sucks that this meat packing company had to pay an $11 million ransom.

Meatpacker JBS says it paid equivalent of $11 mln in ransomware attack

Meatpacker JBS USA paid a ransom equivalent to $11 million following a cyberattack that disrupted its North American and Australian operations, the company's CEO said in a statement on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

As long as these hackers can get away with it and make millions off it, why would they stop?
WHY CAN'T WE CATCH THESE SCOUNDRELS?
There needs to be a cyber defense that bites back the instant one of these things happens. Trashes their computer brains, traces a footprint directly to the hacker's door.

Dimm's are in charge!
It's a hacker's field day.
The Federal Bureau of Idiots continue to be idiots!!

It has nothing to do with which party is in charge. I already posted a link that shows it happened all during the T**** era as well. As a matter of fact, when Russia hacked our government data bases for months, T**** didn't do squat about it.

What has to happen is simple: we need to hire some of these hackers ourselves. If we're too goddamned stupid to catch them, hire people who can.

Sucks that this meat packing company had to pay an $11 million ransom.

Meatpacker JBS says it paid equivalent of $11 mln in ransomware attack

Meatpacker JBS USA paid a ransom equivalent to $11 million following a cyberattack that disrupted its North American and Australian operations, the company's CEO said in a statement on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

As long as these hackers can get away with it and make millions off it, why would they stop?
WHY CAN'T WE CATCH THESE SCOUNDRELS?
There needs to be a cyber defense that bites back the instant one of these things happens. Trashes their computer brains, traces a footprint directly to the hacker's door.

Dimm's are in charge!
It's a hacker's field day.
The Federal Bureau of Idiots continue to be idiots!!

It has nothing to do with which party is in charge. I already posted a link that shows it happened all during the T**** era as well. As a matter of fact, when Russia hacked our government data bases for months, T**** didn't do squat about it.

What has to happen is simple: we need to hire some of these hackers ourselves. If we're too goddamned stupid to catch them, hire people who can.

Please name the company's in the private sector that were paying ransom during the Trump Administration.

 

[NightFox]

Sucks that this meat packing company had to pay an $11 million ransom.

Meatpacker JBS says it paid equivalent of $11 mln in ransomware attack

Meatpacker JBS USA paid a ransom equivalent to $11 million following a cyberattack that disrupted its North American and Australian operations, the company's CEO said in a statement on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

As long as these hackers can get away with it and make millions off it, why would they stop?
WHY CAN'T WE CATCH THESE SCOUNDRELS?
There needs to be a cyber defense that bites back the instant one of these things happens. Trashes their computer brains, traces a footprint directly to the hacker's door.

Dimm's are in charge!
It's a hacker's field day.
The Federal Bureau of Idiots continue to be idiots!!

It has nothing to do with which party is in charge. I already posted a link that shows it happened all during the T**** era as well. As a matter of fact, when Russia hacked our government data bases for months, T**** didn't do squat about it.

What has to happen is simple: we need to hire some of these hackers ourselves. If we're too goddamned stupid to catch them, hire people who can.

Sucks that this meat packing company had to pay an $11 million ransom.

Meatpacker JBS says it paid equivalent of $11 mln in ransomware attack

Meatpacker JBS USA paid a ransom equivalent to $11 million following a cyberattack that disrupted its North American and Australian operations, the company's CEO said in a statement on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

As long as these hackers can get away with it and make millions off it, why would they stop?
WHY CAN'T WE CATCH THESE SCOUNDRELS?
There needs to be a cyber defense that bites back the instant one of these things happens. Trashes their computer brains, traces a footprint directly to the hacker's door.

Dimm's are in charge!
It's a hacker's field day.
The Federal Bureau of Idiots continue to be idiots!!

It has nothing to do with which party is in charge. I already posted a link that shows it happened all during the T**** era as well. As a matter of fact, when Russia hacked our government data bases for months, T**** didn't do squat about it.

What has to happen is simple: we need to hire some of these hackers ourselves. If we're too goddamned stupid to catch them, hire people who can.

Please name the company's in the private sector that were paying ransom during the Trump Administration.

You do realize that most companies that pay the ransom, don't publicize it, right ? You only see the headlines when there's a major supply disruption, otherwise companies prefer to keep it quiet and not advertise the fact that they're WILLING TO PAY A RANSOM.

Ransomware attacks on U.S. Business (and government systems) were happening under the Trump Administration at a rate comparable to what they are now, Trump did practically nothing to curtail them, Obama did practically nothing to curtail them and Biden hasn't done anything to curtail them.

It's up to the private sector to get their act together and start taking cybersecurity seriously, good news is, they're finally coming around.

 

[OldLady]

Sucks that this meat packing company had to pay an $11 million ransom.

Meatpacker JBS says it paid equivalent of $11 mln in ransomware attack

Meatpacker JBS USA paid a ransom equivalent to $11 million following a cyberattack that disrupted its North American and Australian operations, the company's CEO said in a statement on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

As long as these hackers can get away with it and make millions off it, why would they stop?
WHY CAN'T WE CATCH THESE SCOUNDRELS?
There needs to be a cyber defense that bites back the instant one of these things happens. Trashes their computer brains, traces a footprint directly to the hacker's door.

Dimm's are in charge!
It's a hacker's field day.
The Federal Bureau of Idiots continue to be idiots!!

It has nothing to do with which party is in charge. I already posted a link that shows it happened all during the T**** era as well. As a matter of fact, when Russia hacked our government data bases for months, T**** didn't do squat about it.

What has to happen is simple: we need to hire some of these hackers ourselves. If we're too goddamned stupid to catch them, hire people who can.

Sucks that this meat packing company had to pay an $11 million ransom.

Meatpacker JBS says it paid equivalent of $11 mln in ransomware attack

Meatpacker JBS USA paid a ransom equivalent to $11 million following a cyberattack that disrupted its North American and Australian operations, the company's CEO said in a statement on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

As long as these hackers can get away with it and make millions off it, why would they stop?
WHY CAN'T WE CATCH THESE SCOUNDRELS?
There needs to be a cyber defense that bites back the instant one of these things happens. Trashes their computer brains, traces a footprint directly to the hacker's door.

Dimm's are in charge!
It's a hacker's field day.
The Federal Bureau of Idiots continue to be idiots!!

It has nothing to do with which party is in charge. I already posted a link that shows it happened all during the T**** era as well. As a matter of fact, when Russia hacked our government data bases for months, T**** didn't do squat about it.

What has to happen is simple: we need to hire some of these hackers ourselves. If we're too goddamned stupid to catch them, hire people who can.

Please name the company's in the private sector that were paying ransom during the Trump Administration.

My link is up. You'll have to ask them. I'm sure they can oblige.

 

[whitehall]

The sad thing is that our own "intelligence" community apparently isn't smart enough to deal with international hackers like this. Ignorant lefties will end up blaming Tucker Carlson.

 

[Dana7360]

It should be illegal for companies to pay like that. It's too easy to air gap their operating systems to prevent hacking.

.

They provide 25% of the meat in the US. if you're right there is a reasonable way for them to protect themselves and they don't, I guess that's another story. Seems like everyone would have it already. So what's the catch?

They are a huge national company. I dont think air gapping their systems is really a reasonable solution. Im quite sure their systems are interconnected across their numerous locations. You would have to have a separate intranet that all their systems run on and internet connections for the business side with separate computer systems that never touched both networks. It's a meat production company not a US intelligence agency. The US as part of our policy is so worried about attribution when it comes to stuff like this that we dont hit back. Foreign nations know this. What needs to happen is we need to hit back, hit back hard and say yes it was the US and that's only the tip of the iceberg.

Yes as I stated in a reply to the OP, a totally separate system for email.

The only way to stop this is to keep email on a separate system from the rest of the company operations.

It's expensive but costs less than being hacked, shutdown and blackmailed.

Im not sure that's the case. For a large company to have and manage 2 networks might cost more than 11 million depending on how many years you extend that out. That means every employee has to have 2 computers on their desk potentially with all the network connection overhead associated with them. I would think you increase your IT staff but 50%? So you have to account for their salaries, training, etc etc. The costs would add up quickly. And for a small company the overhead costs would be a non starter.

What is the other alternative?

I don't think a small company has as much to worry about as a large oil pipeline or an international food company.

The hackers are going to go where the money is. That's not a small company.

If a large company has to hire more people to do those jobs, that is the price of doing business in the world today.

I don't see anyone else coming up with a real solution.

 

[NightFox]

The sad thing is that our own "intelligence" community apparently isn't smart enough to deal with international hackers like this. Ignorant lefties will end up blaming Tucker Carlson.

The fact is that they are “smart enough” to deal with in fact they deal with constantly, the sad part about it is that they are focused on protecting GOVERNMENT POWER instead of protecting “WE THE PEOPLE”. Snowden saw it, which is why he did what he did.

 

[NightFox]

It should be illegal for companies to pay like that. It's too easy to air gap their operating systems to prevent hacking.

.

They provide 25% of the meat in the US. if you're right there is a reasonable way for them to protect themselves and they don't, I guess that's another story. Seems like everyone would have it already. So what's the catch?

They are a huge national company. I dont think air gapping their systems is really a reasonable solution. Im quite sure their systems are interconnected across their numerous locations. You would have to have a separate intranet that all their systems run on and internet connections for the business side with separate computer systems that never touched both networks. It's a meat production company not a US intelligence agency. The US as part of our policy is so worried about attribution when it comes to stuff like this that we dont hit back. Foreign nations know this. What needs to happen is we need to hit back, hit back hard and say yes it was the US and that's only the tip of the iceberg.

Yes as I stated in a reply to the OP, a totally separate system for email.

The only way to stop this is to keep email on a separate system from the rest of the company operations.

It's expensive but costs less than being hacked, shutdown and blackmailed.

Im not sure that's the case. For a large company to have and manage 2 networks might cost more than 11 million depending on how many years you extend that out. That means every employee has to have 2 computers on their desk potentially with all the network connection overhead associated with them. I would think you increase your IT staff but 50%? So you have to account for their salaries, training, etc etc. The costs would add up quickly. And for a small company the overhead costs would be a non starter.

What is the other alternative?

I don't think a small company has as much to worry about as a large oil pipeline or an international food company.

The hackers are going to go where the money is. That's not a small company.

If a large company has to hire more people to do those jobs, that is the price of doing business in the world today.

I don't see anyone else coming up with a real solution.

That’s just not accurate, “hackers” are going after the easiest targets and that includes SMALL BUSINESS AND INDIVIDUALS, the whole point is to carry out attacks at scale, hit thousands of targets and you only need a small percentage to be successful to make bank. Sure bigger targets are potentially more lucrative but they are generally harder to crack, so what you do is cast a wide net and pick off any easy targets that turn up, doesn’t increase your effort much and doesn’t increase your risk much.

Security by obscurity is just an illusion.

 

[InspectorDetector]

Sucks that this meat packing company had to pay an $11 million ransom.

Meatpacker JBS says it paid equivalent of $11 mln in ransomware attack

Meatpacker JBS USA paid a ransom equivalent to $11 million following a cyberattack that disrupted its North American and Australian operations, the company's CEO said in a statement on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

No - it sucks that they paid the ransom. So it will happen again, and again, and again ad nauseam.

 

[NightFox]

Sucks that this meat packing company had to pay an $11 million ransom.

Meatpacker JBS says it paid equivalent of $11 mln in ransomware attack

Meatpacker JBS USA paid a ransom equivalent to $11 million following a cyberattack that disrupted its North American and Australian operations, the company's CEO said in a statement on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

No - it sucks that they paid the ransom. So it will happen again, and again, and again ad nauseam.

Cheaper to pay the ransom than to mitigate the damage while having to cease operations and lose revenue, simple risk-reward analysis.

The attackers already know what the downtime is going to cost the target and thus know what ransom to ask for, they’re not stupid.