4 Senate Republicans Give Trump The Middle Finger....Senate Passes A Bill To Block Trump's 25% Tariffs On Canada

[Dragonlady]

Only traitors side with democrats

Nuremberg 2.0 is near

So you oppos democracy in all of its forms?

You need to get treatment for your oppositional behaviour disorder.

 

[Kondor3]

Progs tried to kill Christians in their homes. They sent their weaponized goons into their home and dragged them out of them. That is reality. That is Garland. And that is the willingness of men to e stormtroopers in every society ever.

Is there an English Language Point buried in there somewhere?

 

[Dragonlady]

Progs tried to kill Christians in their homes. They sent their weaponized goons into their home and dragged them out of them. That is reality. That is Garland. And that is the willingness of men to e stormtroopers in every society ever.

Links???? Trump is grabbing people off the streets and "disappearing" them. Putting them on planes and sending them to prisons in foreign countries, with NO DUE PROCESS.

And you have lies about "weaponized goons". Where is your proof of anything?

 

[Kondor3]

Links???? Trump is grabbing people off the streets and "disappearing" them. Putting them on planes and sending them to prisons in foreign countries, with NO DUE PROCESS.

Very few people here are shedding any crocodile tears over those scumbags being flushed out of the country.

Why? Because we don't believe in Due Process? No. It's because of the sheer volume and the grave danger they pose.

If we only had to deal with a few dozen or a hundred or two, that would be fine; but we're dealing with tens of thousands.

"When Safety and Constitutionality are at odds, Safety usually wins, out of sheer necessity."

That kind of mentality is both unfortunate and alarming but every so-often in a nation's history it does come down to that.

This appears to be one such time for us.

Will an occasional mistake be made during the course of an operation of this sort of very large scale?

Yes... of course... that is to be expected.

But... to make omelettes ya gotta break a few eggs... and this is one omelette that MUST be made... and that quickly.

You have yet (and I hope you never do) to experience this sort of thing on even a proportionally-similar scale to this.

It has gotten badly - desperately - out-of-control, and we are now taking steps to reclaim our sovereignty and safety.

It ain't pretty, but it's necessary, and long-overdue; we're not happy about it, but c'est la vie... $hit happens sometimes.

When you folks in Canada have a couple of hundred-thousand Alien Gang Members to deal with quickly, then we can talk.

Unless, of course, you'd like us to ship them up to you, so that you can give them Due Process.

 

[Independent thinker]

Of course, Trump will veto this bill if it passes the House, but he is going to face a lot of Republican opposition to these tariffs. This is humiliating for Trump.

Rand Paul is 100% correct -- Tariffs are taxes. Since when do full-of-shit Repugs love taxes???

This tariff debacle is not going to end well for Trump. --

The Senate voted 51-48 Wednesday to undo President Donald Trump’s tariffs on Canada, delivering its first major rebuke to Trump since he returned to the White House.

Four Republicans — Sens. Mitch McConnell (Kentucky), Susan Collins (Maine), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Rand Paul (Kentucky) — defied Trump and Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-South Dakota) by voting with Democrats to invalidate a national emergency that Trump declared in February, allowing him to impose a 25 percent tariff on Canadian goods.

Trump has vowed to veto the bill, even if it made it through the Republican-controlled House.

The president accused Collins, McConnell, Murkowski and Paul of disloyalty ahead of the vote. “The Senate Bill is just a ploy of the Dems to show and expose the weakness of certain Republicans, namely these four, in that it is not going anywhere because the House will never approve it and I, as your President, will never sign it,” Trump wrote in a post published at 12:58 a.m. on his Truth Social platform.

The resolution’s supporters have described it as a way to send a message to Trump about the broad discontent with his tariff strategy, even if it has no chance of becoming law.

“We think that the economic chaos that’s being caused — markets being roiled and consumer confidence dropping and some predicting recession — together with a bipartisan vote might convince the White House” to change course, said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Virginia), who introduced the resolution with Sens. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minnesota) and Mark R. Warner (D-Virginia).


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/04/02/trump-presidency-tariffs-florida-wisconsin/

One could argue that Republicans think on their own instead of being part of the Borg collective like saying that Biden was perfectly fine to be in office.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

America will either bring manufacturing back, balance your budget or you will become bankrupt and China will be sending missiles into Taiwan and other Western nations.

Mike Pence is an old Neo-Con who had to drop out of running for president after telling Tucker that he cared more about Ukraine than Americans. I think the quote was "that's (the American People) not my concern". Really? Running to be president but Americans are not your concern?

That ended his campaign and I'm sure the donors dried up not long after that comment.

I don't know what the answer is but Americas debt is going to require both cuts AND revenue generation via tariffs. Wealthy nations apply tariffs and we can't give China the world. So, the GOP have to figure it out.

The only conservatives are people like Pence and Rand Paul.

The Republican Party has always been against tariffs. Tariffs are taxes...like Pence and Paul both said.

Since when does the Republican Party believe in raising taxes???

The simple fact is that Trump and the MAGA Republicans are completely full of shit and they are about to disastrously wreck our economy.

 

[shockedcanadian]

The only conservatives are people like Pence and Rand Paul.

The Republican Party has always been against tariffs. Tariffs are taxes...like Pence and Paul both said.

Since when does the Republican Party believe in raising taxes???

The simple fact is that Trump and the MAGA Republicans are completely full of shit and they are about to disastrously wreck our economy.

Tariffs are only a tax if all nations are operating fairly. You can't consider only the consumption side, you need to also address economic metrics from the output/production side. This is absolutely vital and America lead the West in moving away from this.

When nations use tariffs and non-tariff barriers to steal jobs and industries while keeping your companies out, you end up with a $36T debt to basically subsidize foreign companies with local consumption and encourage your companies to move jobs overseas.

If you had $2T in debt maybe. Not $36T and an annual trade deficit of $1T. That's absurd. You are making the elite around the world filthy rich but making yourself dependent, unemployed and addicted to poisons out of despair.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

One could argue that Republicans think on their own instead of being part of the Borg collective like saying that Biden was perfectly fine to be in office.

That would be a stupid argument. Biden had 48 straight months of job growth. And almost overnight, Trump is going to completely wreck our economy.

You MAGAts are a demented cult. Go ahead and follow Trump off the economic cliff.

 

[kyzr]

The only conservatives are people like Pence and Rand Paul.
The Republican Party has always been against tariffs. Tariffs are taxes...like Pence and Paul both said.
Since when does the Republican Party believe in raising taxes???
The simple fact is that Trump and the MAGA Republicans are completely full of shit and they are about to disastrously wreck our economy.

Tariffs are not as straightforward as "taxes", Trump is also cutting taxes on OT, on SS, and on tips, so there is an offset.
Tariffs may get shared by the buyer, the seller, the importer, and possibly even the manufacturer.
Tariffs don't affect the wealthy, they still buy what they want.
we'll see over time if tariffs help or hurt the US economy.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Tariffs are only a tax if all nations are operating fairly. You don't think about the consumption side, you need to also understand economic from the output/production side.

When nations use tariffs and non-tariff barriers to steal jobs and industries while keeping your companies out, you end up with a $36T debt to basically subsidize foreign companies with local consumption and encourage your companies to move jobs overseas.

If you had $2T in debt maybe. Not $36T and an annual trade deficit of $1T. That's absurd. You are making the elite around the world filthy rich but making yourself dependent, unemployed and addicted to poisons out of despair.

We are the most financially successful country in the world. A smart President doesn't obsess about such petty concerns as trade "fairness" and counts his blessings and doesn't rock the boat.

Only an imbecile believes that we should wreck our economy because some countries benefit more than others from free trade....yet that is what Trump is about to do.

Trump and imbecile MAGAs want to cut off their nose to spite their face. And the tariffs will do absolutely nothing regarding the national debt, except probably make it worse when millions of Americans lose their jobs and don't pay taxes.

 

[shockedcanadian]

We are the most financially successful country in the world. A smart President doesn't obsess about such petty concerns as trade "fairness" and counts his blessings and doesn't rock the boat.

Only an imbecile believes that we should wreck our economy because some countries benefit more than others from free trade....yet that is what Trump is about to do.

Trump and imbecile MAGAs want to cut off their nose to spite their face. And the tariffs will do absolutely nothing regarding the national debt, except probably make it worse when millions of Americans lose their jobs and don't pay taxes.

Your economy has been a mirage based on debt.

You are wasting your advantage and innovation, $1T a year in interest alone? How long do you think that scenario can continue?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

why are Dems cheering for countries that rip off the US with unfair taxes and trading practices ...

Why are you cheering for Trump to wreck this country's economy with his insane tariffs??

This is going to be an epic fail for Trump. There is no happy ending to this story for you MAGA bumpkins.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Why don't you rebut his claims.

Actually, I think tariffs are a really good debate. I can see the MAGA side and the anti-MAGA side here.

Don't react. Debate based on facts.

It's a good debate for liberals, not for MAGA Republicans.

The Republican Party has been against tariffs for the past 90 years....and now these MAGA imbeciles want to pretend that tariffs are a good thing. They are a total joke.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Your economy has been a mirage based on debt.

You are wasting your advantage and innovation, $1T a year in interest alone? How long do you think that scenario can continue?

So Trump wants to cut hundreds of millions of dollars in funding to universities....and you pretend to be concerned about innovation???

What a joke you are.

 

[yidnar]

Why are you cheering for Trump to wreck this country's economy with his insane tariffs??

This is going to be an epic fail for Trump. There is no happy ending to this story for you MAGA bumpkins.

we are only putting tariffs at 50 % of the rate said countries are tariffing us .. should said countries lower their tariffs and start treating the US more fairly ?