"A nice government job..."

[rightwinger]

I took a nice government job as an engineer out of college

The job market was tough and the government was offering pay significantly lower than the private sector. Most people I graduated with asked "Why would you want to work for the government?"

For most of my career, I was making significantly less than my peers but had decent benefits, especially the retirement program. It was the retirement that kept me in the government for 33 years

I wouldn't trade my career with anyone I graduated with. All ended up getting layed off at some point in their career. The best engineers at the time got jobs with Kodak or Bell Labs both of which folded.

Working for the Dept of Defense, the projects I worked on were much more interesting than you would find in the private sector. I worked on Submarines, Aircraft carriers, GPS, Nightvision and major communications networks. I traveled around the country and did some kick ass tests costing tens of millions of dollars.

By the time I retired at 55, engineers from all sectors were dying for one of those crappy government jobs

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Govvernment is a jobs program for otherwise unemployable individuals.

I've actually turned govt. employment down. I'm not being an accessory to that type of theft.

 

[Seawytch]

Why do people want a "nice government job"? It's called job security. Everyone needs it and wants it but very few employers offer it.

I took one for a number of reasons. Reason one was a desire to serve my community. I'd just retired from military service and wanted something that gave me a similar feeling at the end of my day, that I'd accomplished something that helps others. Reason two were the partner benefits offered by the county. Sure, I had to take less pay than I could have earned in the private sector, but all in all it's a fair trade.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

I took one for a number of reasons.

You took one for one reason. I described it in post #22

 

[Seawytch]

I took one for a number of reasons.

You took one for one reason. I described it in post #22

You sound like someone that couldn't get one. Sour grapes.

I told you why I took one. I was a retired Coast Guard Telecommunications Specialist with a Top Secret clearance. The Private Sector would have loved to get a hold of me, but I had a higher calling.

 

[Old Rocks]

Govvernment is a jobs program for otherwise unemployable individuals.

I've actually turned govt. employment down. I'm not being an accessory to that type of theft.

You, my friend, are a silly asshole. There are many people in government jobs that have been offered a very large incentative by private enterprise, that simply don't see the financial rewards as an incetative to give up the psychological rewards of the job they are doing.

That you simply hate government, and transfer that hate to our citizens in military and public service, is your own mental problem, one which only a small percentage of American Citizens share.

 

[rightwinger]

Govvernment is a jobs program for otherwise unemployable individuals.

I've actually turned govt. employment down. I'm not being an accessory to that type of theft.

As a government employee, my job was a lot more interesting than any of my neighbors. I traveled extensively and worked on high tech projects that they could only dream about. As a government employee, I could transfer to any government job in the world and still keep all my benefits. I never worried if I would have a job in a year.

Too bad you missed out

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Govvernment is a jobs program for otherwise unemployable individuals.

I've actually turned govt. employment down. I'm not being an accessory to that type of theft.

As a government employee, my job was a lot more interesting than any of my neighbors. I traveled extensively and worked on high tech projects that they could only dream about. As a government employee, I could transfer to any government job in the world and still keep all my benefits. I never worried if I would have a job in a year.

Too bad you missed out

So you were an accessory to the largest scheme of theft known to man and your'e proud of that? Like I said in post #22.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Govvernment is a jobs program for otherwise unemployable individuals.

I've actually turned govt. employment down. I'm not being an accessory to that type of theft.

You, my friend, are a silly asshole. There are many people in government jobs that have been offered a very large incentative by private enterprise, that simply don't see the financial rewards as an incetative to give up the psychological rewards of the job they are doing.

That you simply hate government, and transfer that hate to our citizens in military and public service, is your own mental problem, one which only a small percentage of American Citizens share.

Nonsense. They take those jobs because they are otherwise unemployable.

See seawytch post regarding Retired from govt job and took, a govt job.

Sounds like that's all the individual could get to me.

 

[rightwinger]

Govvernment is a jobs program for otherwise unemployable individuals.

I've actually turned govt. employment down. I'm not being an accessory to that type of theft.

As a government employee, my job was a lot more interesting than any of my neighbors. I traveled extensively and worked on high tech projects that they could only dream about. As a government employee, I could transfer to any government job in the world and still keep all my benefits. I never worried if I would have a job in a year.

Too bad you missed out

So you were an accessory to the largest scheme of theft known to man and your'e proud of that? Like I said in post #22.

Actually, I did some important and fulfilling work. I developed hi tech military equipment that saved thousands of lives. Equipment that I helped develop late in my career was just a fantasy when I began my career

 

[TakeAStepBack]

So the "job" that paid you by stealing from others was fulfilling. That's wonderful, dude.

A guy goes to the Government to interview for a job. The interviewer asks him, "Are you a veteran?"

The guy says, "Why yes, in fact, I served two tours in Vietnam."

"Good," says the interviewer, "That counts in your favor. Do you have any service-related disabilities?"

The guy says, "In fact I am 100% disabled. During a battle, an explosion removed my private parts so they declared me disabled, it doesn't affect my ability to work, though."

"Sorry to hear about the damage, but I have some good news for you, I can hire you right now! Our working hours are 8 to 4. Come on in about 10, and we'll get you started."

The guy says, "If working hours are from 8 to 4, why do you want me to come at 10?"

"Well, here at the government, we don't do anything but sit around and scratch our balls for the first two hours. No point of your coming in for that."

 

[rightwinger]

So the "job" that paid you by stealing from others was fulfilling. That's wonderful, dude.

A guy goes to the Government to interview for a job. The interviewer asks him, "Are you a veteran?"

The guy says, "Why yes, in fact, I served two tours in Vietnam."

"Good," says the interviewer, "That counts in your favor. Do you have any service-related disabilities?"

The guy says, "In fact I am 100% disabled. During a battle, an explosion removed my private parts so they declared me disabled, it doesn't affect my ability to work, though."

"Sorry to hear about the damage, but I have some good news for you, I can hire you right now! Our working hours are 8 to 4. Come on in about 10, and we'll get you started."

The guy says, "If working hours are from 8 to 4, why do you want me to come at 10?"

"Well, here at the government, we don't do anything but sit around and scratch our balls for the first two hours. No point of your coming in for that."

Cute.....but sad that you feel that way

You are correct that the government gives priority to our veterans, especially our disabled veterans. Most honest Americans believe that is the way it should be

 

[TakeAStepBack]

It's also only partially correct about one other thing. It's not the first 2 hours spent doing nothing and scratching balls. That's the entire scope of the employment.

 

[High_Gravity]

Perhaps [MENTION=26153]High_Gravity[/MENTION] could answer that for you. He's our resident government employee.

(Hands HG the mike)

I like it for the job security, in the private sector you could get handed your walking papers at any time.

 

[Seawytch]

Govvernment is a jobs program for otherwise unemployable individuals.

I've actually turned govt. employment down. I'm not being an accessory to that type of theft.

You, my friend, are a silly asshole. There are many people in government jobs that have been offered a very large incentative by private enterprise, that simply don't see the financial rewards as an incetative to give up the psychological rewards of the job they are doing.

That you simply hate government, and transfer that hate to our citizens in military and public service, is your own mental problem, one which only a small percentage of American Citizens share.

Nonsense. They take those jobs because they are otherwise unemployable.

See seawytch post regarding Retired from govt job and took, a govt job.

Sounds like that's all the individual could get to me.

Funny, because what it sounds like to me is that you couldn't get one. Textbook example of sour grapes.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

You're entitled to that opinion. Like I said, I wouldn't work for the government. I turned them down. All the nicetties aside, i have more integrity than to be involved in a large scale theft scheme. And i'm employable.

 

[rightwinger]

For much of the time I worked for the Government, the employees were lower skilled. It was a case of the Government getting what they paid for. Government salaries were not competitive, especially out of college. Young kids out of college do not care about retirement benefits or job security, all they see is $$$.
After 9-11, the market shifted. The private sector started to shed employees, cut benefits and hire and fire at a whim based on the current market. All of a sudden we started getting much more qualified employees who were more interested in job security and a steady paycheck

 

[TakeAStepBack]

So another welfare group. Like i said, government is a jobs program.

 

[rightwinger]

So another welfare group. Like i said, government is a jobs program.

Yes, it is a jobs program

Doctors
Lawyers
Accountants
Engineers
Scientists
Law Enforcement
Business
Social Workers

Lots of jobs

 

[TakeAStepBack]

So another welfare group. Like i said, government is a jobs program.

Yes, it is a jobs program

Doctors
Lawyers
Accountants
Engineers
Scientists
Law Enforcement
Business
Social Workers

Lots of jobs

Yep! All paid for by the private sector:

Doctors
Lawyers
Accountants
Engineers
Scientists
"Business" (whatever you expected that to mean)

In which case, there would be no jobs from government. So it's a giant theft scheme. Deplorable.