YoursTruly
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Let's just have a conversation. Shall we?
I'd like to start a series of conversations on separate issues that Americans face, to see if the right, left and independents can come together and solve. A conversation amongst adults and adult minded people, without the constant childish bickering that goes on about how bad one side is over the other.
Are we better than the lobbyist owned politicians that run this country? Can we, collectively, come up with actual solutions? I guess we'll see soon enough.
The first topic is police reform. Not whether there should be police reform or not. But reform in a way that benefits the actual innocent people. IMO, there is still too much police brutality in this country towards innocent people. I'm not talking about police brutality against thugs, thieves, murderers, druggies. But actual innocent people.
Here's a few rules to help guide our way.
1. No blaming one side or the other for things that happened in the past, starting with yesterday. Not one of us
Was there and involved in any of these incidences.
2. No discussion of race. Being a bad person is a human nature trait, not a racial one.
3. If someone points out a benefit or a flaw in our current system, before you reply, please be adult enough to try and understand where they're coming from before you object.
4. If the discussion leads to actual criminals, and what the police did to brutalize them, note that if they had not been committing criminal activity, the cops wouldn't have been there in the first place. That should not dismiss the cops brutality. But it does show the reason why they had to be in contact if the officers.
Example: Tamir Rice. Shot within just a few seconds of the police car coming into view of the camera. Totally unjustified. Questions and a break down of this situation would be:
1. Why did the officer shoot so quickly?
2. Did the driver of the car put the other officer in danger, by not stopping at a safe distance, which put the shooting officer
In what could've been a deadly situation for him, had Tamir's gun been real, and Tamir been a violent thug? The shooting
Officer had no way of knowing anything at the time.
3. The 911 operator didn't report to the responding officers that the gun may be a toy, as the 911 caller suggested?
The minor details in all of these incidences should not be overlooked. Because police training lacks all or most of those minor details. Which are by far the most important in all police interactions. Good or bad.
P.S. I'm not wanting another discussion about Tamir Rice. I mentioned that incident only as an example of things to consider when discussion solutions to the police brutality problem we do have in this country.
Let's dance.
I'd like to start a series of conversations on separate issues that Americans face, to see if the right, left and independents can come together and solve. A conversation amongst adults and adult minded people, without the constant childish bickering that goes on about how bad one side is over the other.
Are we better than the lobbyist owned politicians that run this country? Can we, collectively, come up with actual solutions? I guess we'll see soon enough.
The first topic is police reform. Not whether there should be police reform or not. But reform in a way that benefits the actual innocent people. IMO, there is still too much police brutality in this country towards innocent people. I'm not talking about police brutality against thugs, thieves, murderers, druggies. But actual innocent people.
Here's a few rules to help guide our way.
1. No blaming one side or the other for things that happened in the past, starting with yesterday. Not one of us
Was there and involved in any of these incidences.
2. No discussion of race. Being a bad person is a human nature trait, not a racial one.
3. If someone points out a benefit or a flaw in our current system, before you reply, please be adult enough to try and understand where they're coming from before you object.
4. If the discussion leads to actual criminals, and what the police did to brutalize them, note that if they had not been committing criminal activity, the cops wouldn't have been there in the first place. That should not dismiss the cops brutality. But it does show the reason why they had to be in contact if the officers.
Example: Tamir Rice. Shot within just a few seconds of the police car coming into view of the camera. Totally unjustified. Questions and a break down of this situation would be:
1. Why did the officer shoot so quickly?
2. Did the driver of the car put the other officer in danger, by not stopping at a safe distance, which put the shooting officer
In what could've been a deadly situation for him, had Tamir's gun been real, and Tamir been a violent thug? The shooting
Officer had no way of knowing anything at the time.
3. The 911 operator didn't report to the responding officers that the gun may be a toy, as the 911 caller suggested?
The minor details in all of these incidences should not be overlooked. Because police training lacks all or most of those minor details. Which are by far the most important in all police interactions. Good or bad.
P.S. I'm not wanting another discussion about Tamir Rice. I mentioned that incident only as an example of things to consider when discussion solutions to the police brutality problem we do have in this country.
Let's dance.