ABC Moderator Linsey Davis Admits: ‘Fact-checking’ Was Only Planned for Trump

[sealybobo]

So how many people were prosecuted for filing those "bogus affidavits". Answer : NONE. Because that would mean ALL evidence would have been introduced, proving the fraud. Oops.

Conspiracy theory

 

[struth]

No she didn't lie.

A Defense Department spokesperson told PolitiFact that the U.S. is neither engaged in a war, nor has service members fighting in active war zones anywhere in the world.

The Defense Department confirmed the U.S. military is not engaged in a war. But Harris’ statement ignores critical facts.

There are thousands of U.S. military service members stationed in areas that are considered combat zones. These members face hostilities from foreign adversaries and some have been killed or injured during military operations.

We rate Harris’ statement Mostly False.

we have troops in combat zones....she said we didn't...she lied.

Not that hard a concept

Kamala Harris was wrong when she said there are no U.S. troops in combat zones

The U.S. maintains just under 1,000 troops on bases in Syria and a further 2,500 in Iraq, according to the U.S. Department of Defense.

www.usatoday.com

One example of how U.S. troops are in harm's way overseas: On the last day of August, a U.S. military-led raid in western Iraq killed at least 15 Islamic State group "operatives" who fought back with numerous weapons including grenades and explosive "suicide" belts. Seven U.S. soldiers were injured during the operation.


Harris neglect of those men and women highlights she has no business being commander and chief.

 

[sealybobo]

we have troops in combat zones....she said we didn't...she lied.

Not that hard a concept

Kamala Harris was wrong when she said there are no U.S. troops in combat zones

The U.S. maintains just under 1,000 troops on bases in Syria and a further 2,500 in Iraq, according to the U.S. Department of Defense.

www.usatoday.com

One example of how U.S. troops are in harm's way overseas: On the last day of August, a U.S. military-led raid in western Iraq killed at least 15 Islamic State group "operatives" who fought back with numerous weapons including grenades and explosive "suicide" belts. Seven U.S. soldiers were injured during the operation.


Harris neglect of those men and women highlights she has no business being commander and chief.

Ok but it's true the U.S. is neither engaged in a war, nor has service members fighting in active war zones anywhere in the world.

It's like saying drink bleach. Or injest detergents. Same thing but not really.

Her claim was mostly false on truthometer. The 4 things they called trump out for lying were liar liar pants on fire lies.

 

[struth]

Ok but it's true the U.S. is neither engaged in a war, nor has service members fighting in active war zones anywhere in the world.

It's like saying drink bleach. Or injest detergents. Same thing but not really.

Her claim was mostly false on truthometer. The 4 things they called trump out for lying were liar liar pants on fire lies.

She didn't say we were engaged in a war.

She lied.

 

[sealybobo]

She didn't say we were engaged in a war.

She lied.

Well, it was mostly false. Not false or pants on fire. Trump has a lot of mostly false, false and pants on fire comments so give her a break.

You hold her to a much higher standard than you do Trump. Why?

 

[struth]

Well, it was mostly false. Not false or pants on fire. Trump has a lot of mostly false, false and pants on fire comments so give her a break.

You hold her to a much higher standard than you do Trump. Why?

oh no, it's pants on fire....and vile and disrespectful....nobody should be even attempting to be commander and chief when they can disrepect the solders she and xiden have put in combat zones.

It's a blantant lie, and one you radicalized dembots repeated

 

[sealybobo]

oh no, it's pants on fire....and vile and disrespectful....nobody should be even attempting to be commander and chief when they can disrepect the solders she and xiden have put in combat zones.

It's a blantant lie, and one you radicalized dembots repeated

You're looking for a game changer. This isn't it.

 

[struth]

You're looking for a game changer. This isn't it.

I don't disagree, I don't think hardcore dembots care that Harris lied over and over and over again, nor do I think they care she doesn't care about our troops

 

[sealybobo]

I don't disagree, I don't think hardcore dembots care that Harris lied over and over and over again, nor do I think they care she doesn't care about our troops

She didn't lie over and over and over. I'm on Fox News and I don't see all the stories about all the lies. Where are they? There's plenty of right wing media out there for you to cut and paste a nice article outlining all of Kamala's lies. I showed last week they fact checked both of them and sorry but Trump did most of the lying bro.

He's a threat to democracy. I know you want us to stop saying it but fuck that. Find me 11,000 votes? Fake electors? Trying to get Mike Pence to stop the certification of the election and send it to the clearly corrupt Supreme Court? He is a threat to democracy.

I'm glad he's not in power right now he might try to use that power AGAIN to steal this one.

 

[struth]

She didn't lie over and over and over. I'm on Fox News and I don't see all the stories about all the lies. Where are they? There's plenty of right wing media out there for you to cut and paste a nice article outlining all of Kamala's lies. I showed last week they fact checked both of them and sorry but Trump did most of the lying bro.

He's a threat to democracy. I know you want us to stop saying it but fuck that. Find me 11,000 votes? Fake electors? Trying to get Mike Pence to stop the certification of the election and send it to the clearly corrupt Supreme Court? He is a threat to democracy.

I'm glad he's not in power right now he might try to use that power AGAIN to steal this one.

of course she lied over and over again. She lied about Trump stance on abortion, a big lie, lied about Project 2025, lied about, she lied about Trump wanting a sales tax, she lied about SCOTUS rulings, she told a whoppper on her views on fracking....seh never stops lying

 

[sealybobo]

of course she lied over and over again. She lied about Trump stance on abortion, a big lie, lied about Project 2025, lied about, she lied about Trump wanting a sales tax, she lied about SCOTUS rulings, she told a whoppper on her views on fracking....seh never stops lying

Trump and you are lying about Project 2025. Trump said babies are killed after they are born. Executed. What did she say about abortion that was a lie? Got a link laying out all her lies? You wouldn't dare because it would debunk your claims.

Trump wanting a sales tax? half true

Would Trump’s proposed tariffs be a $4,000 hit for families?

Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris said one of former President Donald Trump’s policy proposals — higher tari

www.politifact.com

The SCOTUS are scum. I doubt she had to lie about those partisan fucks.

She was against fracking now she's okay with it. So?

 

[struth]

Trump and you are lying about Project 2025. Trump said babies are killed after they are born. Executed. What did she say about abortion that was a lie? Got a link laying out all her lies? You wouldn't dare because it would debunk your claims.

Trump wanting a sales tax? half true

Would Trump’s proposed tariffs be a $4,000 hit for families?

Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris said one of former President Donald Trump’s policy proposals — higher tari

www.politifact.com

The SCOTUS are scum. I doubt she had to lie about those partisan fucks.

She was against fracking now she's okay with it. So?

tariffs aren't a sales tax, claiming any truth to that is a lie.

Trump has nothing to do with Project 2025, claiming so is just a lie.

All she did was lie. She had to lie, if they were scum she wouldn't have. It's weird you think an entire branch of Govt is scum....like why do you hate our country?

 

[sealybobo]

tariffs aren't a sales tax, claiming any truth to that is a lie.

Trump has nothing to do with Project 2025, claiming so is just a lie.

All she did was lie. She had to lie, if they were scum she wouldn't have. It's weird you think an entire branch of Govt is scum....like why do you hate our country?

You're a liar. Know how we know? When did the Supreme's overturn Roe V Wade? Was it after Trump was put in office? We didn't hear about this when Trump ran. So of course you deny/lie now. If Trump wins, Project 2025 is the new law of the land. And it's scary. You're scary.

 

[struth]

You're a liar. Know how we know? When did the Supreme's overturn Roe V Wade? Was it after Trump was put in office? We didn't hear about this when Trump ran. So of course you deny/lie now. If Trump wins, Project 2025 is the new law of the land. And it's scary. You're scary.

People have been trying to overturn Roe for decades.

Project 2025 is not Trump's camapign platform, and the President can't unilaterally make law.

Why are you so ignorant?

 

[sealybobo]

People have been trying to overturn Roe for decades.

Project 2025 is not Trump's camapign platform, and the President can't unilaterally make law.

Why are you so ignorant?

Project 2025 gives him the power. Did you read it? ALL of it?

 

[WEATHER53]

you can deny all the evidence, nobody can make you accept the truth. it's weird though

Feelings greater than facts in lib loon land

 

[sealybobo]

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OK, mein freund, batter up.

Who swore this affidavit?
Who witnessed it?
Do you have a copy with both signatories?
Where is and what is this "evidence" you claim is ignored?

Look, partner, you can make anonymous claims all day under a fake name --as you have been---but there comes a time when the rubber must meet the road, the moment of truth arrives, yada, yada, yada.

And you are a fail in that. Why?

So far, earnest poster Struth...... your flogging of this 'ABC Whistleblower' fantagasm that Trump's Duped & Snookered have fawned over makes your avatar look weak and under-informed, mis-informed.

Be a better poster than that, be a value-added contributor here.

We wish you good luck.

One guy filled out an affidavit "because it seemed odd to him that so many military votes were going to biden" Because "he always believed that the military always overwhelmingly voted for Republicans"

Because he always believed. LOL

And if I recall correct, it was a stack of already sorted Biden votes. So that's why there was "all biden votes" in that stack he saw.

The goal was to overwhelm the system with question marks and get Pence to stop the certification.

I believe Trump thought he could get away with breaking the laws and rigging the election because Bush got away with both.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Prove it.
Simple.
If you know it to be a fact, show us your credible sourcing.
Do it.
Don't look bad on this venue.

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Like poster Hiker Guy earlier in this thread.....I disagree.
Trump 'won' only because poor Joe Biden self-destructed.
His age and cognitive abilities contributed to that.
Sad to see at the time. Sad to see a distinguished career get such shade.
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Good ol' MAGA's ability to be articulate, civil, and adult-like.......familiarly demonstrated once again, by MAGA Sea7.
Making America great again......with the f-bomb.

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I quite agree Joe.
The media has irresponsibly protected Trump by letting him get away with his nutsocrazo lies, deceptions, accusations, and fantagasms. EVERY time Trump makes a false statement he should promptly be called on it. THAT is what journalism does.

Their responsibility is to hold to account the powerful, and provide to the public true accounts of developments, statements, assertions. America's media has nurtured and protected Trump simply and merely because he makes headlines that sell newspapers, capture eyeballs.....and makes them money.
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Mentioned earlier.
And adequately addressed.
The journalist at the debate were journalists......not LSAT auditors.
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Prove it.
Don't make this forum and yourself look bad.
Be better.
Prove she cheated.



"Kameltoe"?
When MAGAs ain't wallowing in their inarticulate f-bombs....well, they still have their ingrained and defining misogyny.



Prove it.
An tell us about "babies who survive abortion".
Where, when, how many, name hospitals, doctors, give us details and metrics.
It's nonsense.
And cheap inflammatory language.
It's a MAGA trope. I am mildly convinced you should know that.


Indeed, it WAS their job.
They are long vetted career journalists with professional bona fides and the awards to prove it.
They are not hall monitors, or LSAT auditors.
If Trump didn't want.....if Harris didn't want.....real journalists then they should have negotiated for some CPA exam auditors to sit in.

Instead, they agreed to stand before real journalists and subject themselves to what journalists do.
Expect to be asked to explain.
Expect to be fact checked.
Expect to be caught on flagrant falsehoods and deal with it when the inevitable query comes.
Don't be naive'.

ps.....to Don Trump's credit he didn't whine or snowflake about it too much. In fact, in contradistinction, he was happy with ABC and how the debate went. He said he won overwhelmingly. He even said it was his best debate ever.

So why in the world would any of his supporters be unhappy with how it all came down.
He's happy.
Why second guess Don Trump?

Indeed, it WAS their job.

It’s not their job to interject their own opinions into the debate. Their “fact checks” are going to be biased and come from biased sources. Plus, the fact that they didn’t fact check both candidates means they were putting their thumb on the scale for Harris.


Yes, their job is to be a “hall monitor”. To ask questions, keep up with the time, and make sure the candidates don’t go over time. They are not there to sway opinion

 

[sealybobo]

People have been trying to overturn Roe for decades.

Project 2025 is not Trump's camapign platform, and the President can't unilaterally make law.

Why are you so ignorant?

“pretty pronounced gender gap,” Harris is leading by 21 percentage points among women while Trump is leading by 12 percentage points among men.

 

[Chillicothe]

"...you can deny all the evidence..."

What evidence are you referring to?
You say there is this 'ABC' affidavit.
Where is it?
Who offered it.?
And to whom?
What vetting was there on this document?
Filed or offered to any jurisdiction, any court?

In my opinion, poster 'struth'......you so badly WANT it to be true that Harris was given the questions beforehand....so badly that you are suspending responsible adult due diligence. You are failing. No disrespect intended.

Be better.
Be a better contributor to this venue.
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One guy filled out an affidavit "because it seemed odd to him that so many military votes

That is not the affidavit that poster 'Struth' is referencing.
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"It’s not their job to interject their own opinions into the debate. Their “fact checks” are going to be biased and come from biased sources. Plus, the fact that they didn’t fact check both candidates means they were putting their thumb on the scale for Harris."

What you are objecting to are a relatively few 'fact checks' of egregious falsehoods by Don Trump.
Babies are NOT being executed in America, etc. etc.
No jurisdiction in the United States allows the execution of infants. Duh!!
To correct Trump on that falsehood does not require an opinion. The facts are clear against his allegation. And, not unimportantly, Trump offered no facts to back up his claim.

Again, Muir and Davis are not ACT exam auditors. They are journalists. It is their job as journalist to seek clarification, to question assertions that on the face appear to be deliberate falsehoods or incompetent due diligence.

America WANT our journalists to be informed, to be tenacious in their appropriate questioning, and to add context or juxtaposition to claims that are questionable.

Reported:
"The moderators stepped in four times to correct the record on the former president’s more outlandish claims during his wild showdown with Kamala Harris, including his assertion that illegal immigrants are eating pets and that Democrats support killing babies after they are born. They also flagged his claim that “crime is through the roof,” pointing out data showing violent crime has fallen.

During Tuesday night's presidential debate, Donald Trump made at least 30 false claims—and he got away with most of them, in spite of the ABC News anchors' robust fact-checking of the president in real time."