Almost entire Saints coaching staff tests positive for Covid

[pknopp]

I don’t think you understand why the flu vaccine doesn’t always work very well

I'm not a medical expert not have I ever had one so I have no need to be the site expert.

 

[pknopp]

Flu vaccine is only 60% effective. Not the same

You enforced my point. Getting a vaccine does not guarantee you won't get what you are vaccinated against.

 

[dblack]

Flu vaccine is only 60% effective. Not the same

It's sounds like the covid vaccines, at least against delta, are no better.

 

[Couchpotato]

I'm not a medical expert not have I ever had one so I have no need to be the site expert.

Why do you think you need to be a medical expert to understand why the flu vaccine is less than bulletproof most years?

 

[pknopp]

does the shingle virus mutate and have different strains like the flu virus and covid?

I have no idea. It's not something I sit down and read about.

 

[pknopp]

Why do you think you need to be a medical expert to understand why the flu vaccine is less than bulletproof most years?

Because that is what I said from the beginning. It's odd how many times someone agree's with my point but still feel they must present an argument even though they are agreeing with me.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You enforced my point. Getting a vaccine does not guarantee you won't get what you are vaccinated against.

You enforced my point. Flu vaccines aren’t mandatory and are portrayed as being 95% effective.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

It's sounds like the covid vaccines, at least against delta, are no better.

But they tell us they are 95% effective. I have always stated that we must all eventually catch it and develop natural immunity

 

[pknopp]

You enforced my point. Flu vaccines aren’t mandatory and are portrayed as being 95% effective.

Swell make that point. It has nothing to do with me.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Swell make that point. It has nothing to do with me.

You agree then that eventually we all need to catch it to really have immunity. Great

 

[dblack]

But they tell us they are 95% effective. I have always stated that we must all eventually catch it and develop natural immunity

The question is, can we do that faster than the damned thing can mutate?

 

[struth]

I have no idea. It's not something I sit down and read about.

so how can y oh say it’s like the shingles then?

 

[dblack]

It seems they should have some info on how well natural immunity protects us by now. Doesn't sound like many people are getting it again, but i haven't seen solid numbers.

 

[struth]

The question is, can we do that faster than the damned thing can mutate?

it will continue to mutate, no matter if we all have it or all get vaccined.

 

[pknopp]

You agree then that eventually we all need to catch it to really have immunity. Great

I don't know that to be the case. I imagine for whatever reason there will be many who never get it.

 

[dblack]

it will continue to mutate, no matter if we all have it or all get vaccined.

Uh, no, that's not true. The mutation rate is directly related to the transmission rate. The faster it's passed around, the faster it mutates. If we actually get herd immunity, it will effectively go away.

 

[struth]

Uh, no, that's not true. The mutation rate is directly related to the transmission rate. The faster it's passed around, the faster it mutates. If we actually get herd immunity, it will effectively go away.

Corona Virus has been around for a long time…this is merely a mutate of it. Virus mutate to stay alive

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The question is, can we do that faster than the damned thing can mutate?

Immunity protects us from mutations IMO.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I don't know that to be the case. I imagine for whatever reason there will be many who never get it.

Some…not most.

 

[Couchpotato]

Uh, no, that's not true. The mutation rate is directly related to the transmission rate. The faster it's passed around, the faster it mutates. If we actually get herd immunity, it will effectively go away.

That’s not real. Especially given how narrow the immunity we are generating via the vaccine. If anything the vaccines will drive mutation of the virus by exerting tremendous evolutionary pressure on a very small part of the virus.