Seymour Flops
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It's the "best money we ever spent," because some of it gets funneled into the campaign funds of Reps and Dems who support the Military-Industrial-Security Complex.
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You don't get to have nuance when a dictator is involved. With them you are either with them or against them.It does, but you don't understand those volumes.
You mean with someone like Zelinski? A dictator who has a history of persecuting his own citizens who disagree with him politically, and has outlawed all competing political parties, and also eliminated any "free" media in his country? That kind of "Dictator"..?You don't get to have nuance when a dictator is involved. With them you are either with them or against them.
Fuck off already. We already know you don't care how many Ukrainians get murdered.You mean with someone like Zelinski? A dictator who has a history of persecuting his own citizens who disagree with him politically, and has outlawed all competing political parties, and also eliminated any "free" media in his country? That kind of "Dictator"..?
On the contrary. The killing would have stopped a year ago, if war mongering fucks like you hadn't insisted on dragging this out. What's your sides battle cry again..? Oh yeah... That's right... "To the last Ukrainian"!Fuck off already. We already know you don't care how many Ukrainians get murdered.
It seems they are still willing to fight. This is because they know what awaits them if Russia wins, If Zelinsky and Ukraine were like the Russian propaganda portrays Ukrainians would already be slaves on their own land like the last time Russia decided to own the place.On the contrary. The killing would have stopped a year ago, if war mongering fucks like you hadn't insisted on dragging this out. What's your sides battle cry again..? Oh yeah... That's right... "To the last Ukrainian"!
This is how to spot a propagandist, boys and girls. Markedly absent from any of his posts is saying the same thing about his very own dictator, Vladimir Putin, which would be actually true, were he to say that.You mean with someone like Zelinski? A dictator who has a history of persecuting his own citizens who disagree with him politically, and has outlawed all competing political parties, and also eliminated any "free" media in his country? That kind of "Dictator"..?
Who wouldn't still be willing to fight, when others will do the dying, and you can skim what you like off the top of the money pouring in, with no accountability, and the all but guaranteed golden parachute if the whole thing goes south..?It seems they are still willing to fight. This is because they know what awaits them if Russia wins, If Zelinsky and Ukraine were like the Russian propaganda portrays Ukrainians would already be slaves on their own land like the last time Russia decided to own the place.
What I said about Zelinski is an incontrovertible fact. We already know the same applies to Putin so it doesn't bear repeating. Both are dictators. But don't let the Warmongers fool you into thinking Z is some Ukranian George Washington. He's not...This is how to spot a propagandist, boys and girls. Markedly absent from any of his posts is saying the same thing about his very own dictator, Vladimir Putin, which would be actually true, were he to say that.
At this point I'm pretty sure you are on the Russian payroll.What I said about Zelinski is an incontrovertible fact. We already know the same applies to Putin so it doesn't bear repeating. Both are dictators. But don't let the Warmongers fool you into thinking Z is some Ukranian George Washington. He's not...
Then you are even more retarded than I dared dream possible.At this point I'm pretty sure you are on the Russian payroll.
meanwhile yoj are the only person that mentioned putin…i think you project too muchThose of us who grew up during the cold war see the same Russians acting exactly the same way. It's kind of disgusting to see so many on the American right humping Putin's leg.
Don't be silly. Can't talk about the Ukraine invasion without talking about Putin.meanwhile yoj are the only person that mentioned putin…i think you project too much
this thread is about GrahamDon't be silly. Can't talk about the Ukraine invasion without talking about Putin.
I'm not so sure that the video isn't spliced out of context but yes, Graham is a sick individual.
Lindsey is not my fave politician, to be sure. He is a talker, not a doer. But I get where he is coming from here. A lot of people today were not alive during the Cold War, when the Soviet Union were our mortal enemy. Back then the only good Russian was a dead Russian. Frankly, I still see no good use for these backstabbing pricks into today’s world.
However, this does not mean that we must jump into every one of their conflicts to support their enemies. Ukraine is different. There are valid reasons to use Ukraine as a pretext to kill Russians. Plus, we don’t want to see the red slime slither into Europe. Third, NATO made certain security assurances related to Ukraine giving up their nuclear weapons.
Also, let’s be clear here. The leftists today are the same people who supported, or would have supported, the Soviet Union back in the day. They conflate right wing aversion to participating in the Ukraine war with being “pro-Putin”, which is absolutely idiotic. Such is merely anti-American rhetoric by assholes who more closely relate to communists than to America. Their criticism in this vein is, therefore, illegitimate and asinine.
Notwithstanding the foregoing, I do not believe it is worth getting into a proxy war, let alone all out war, with the Skeevy fucking Russians over Ukraine. Obama virtually gave Putin Crimea; Barry had absolutely no idea what to do in that scenario so he just assented. We ALL knew Putin would be back to take a land bridge from Russia to Crimea.
This admin did nothing but watch a months-long military buildup on that border. That would have been the time to do something. After the fact is nothing but problematic.So you are another one who thinks Putin should just be allowed to steal a country?